Why does everyone whine that trem is so unbalanced?

[Juno]

If all of you so-called pro's stopped going Aliens all the time, maybe the balance sheet would look a lot more natural. Right now it's just pussies going Aliens and newbies going Humans, while the rest whines about balance.

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im a bit tired of aliens as we usually win



humans is fun too. ive managed a couple of s1 rushes as humans and have won



winning as humans isnt as hard as it is percived


you need more teamwork tho imo, and on uber lame servers  you dont have that, and on good servers where you do,the alien players are just as uber leet

[Juno]

The greatest imbalance I see between the two is that for a human to take down an alien, say a tyrant, it takes an inordinate amount of time and ammo.  Using anything but the noob cannon, I have to do a long and protracted dance around a tyrant while continuously firing and hitting my mark without him getting more than one direct swipe at me.  In turn, it just takes a swipe of two by the tyrant and the human is dead.  Then, after my dance, its back to the base for more health and ammo whereas the alien does NOT have to return to base for health and ammo/food (hence we get into the camping discussion).  Yes, the hummies have weapons that can reach long distances, but there are very few of those long distances in Tremulous.  (And I'm not bringing the luci/noob cannon into this discussion as:  1)  Very few decent players use it and 2)  It usually does more damage to the hummie team than the aliens.)




Diggs

Exactly.


i can almost take down adv goons as naked hummie  - but if they even get so much as a pounce or chomp im dead - same with tyrants


i can dance around everything BUT tyrants ( except uber noobs), but the problem is that youve only got one or two chances

headswipe, and your dead. plus the swipe box is so big that you think your far enough away to dodge and your not

[temple]

Exactly.


i can almost take down adv goons as naked hummie  - but if they even get so much as a pounce or chomp im dead - same with tyrants


i can dance around everything BUT tyrants ( except uber noobs), but the problem is that youve only got one or two chances

headswipe, and your dead. plus the swipe box is so big that you think your far enough away to dodge and your not

If you are naked, aren't risking any credits.  So, a player risking 4-5 evo points should have an advantage.  Otherwise, humans would just naked rush.

[1337 1]

Exactly.


i can almost take down adv goons as naked hummie  - but if they even get so much as a pounce or chomp im dead - same with tyrants


i can dance around everything BUT tyrants ( except uber noobs), but the problem is that youve only got one or two chances

headswipe, and your dead. plus the swipe box is so big that you think your far enough away to dodge and your not

If you are naked, aren't risking any credits.  So, a player risking 4-5 evo points should have an advantage.  Otherwise, humans would just naked rush.

Depends on the skill of the player.  If its some newbie, then they might not have quite as good a chance at taking down an adv goon, but if there's enough of them, or they are a relatively good player, they should be able to at least force it into retreat.  So long as they don't just stand there.

[techhead]

The constant stream of naked human rusher helps to compensate my Tyrant's occasional death.