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Metal or Gangsta

Metal
17 (63%)
Gangsta
3 (11.1%)
WTF are you talking about?
7 (25.9%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Voting closed: November 22, 2006, 09:07:48 pm

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Seafoideach

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2006, 10:50:57 am »
Quote from: "MC Artman"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6774480477151603429&q=dragonforce


(haven'y watched it, [dial-up is teh evilz] assuming it's a video of Dragonforce)

If you're using that as an example of power metal... don't. It isn't a good one. In fact, it is a rather bad one.

Manowar might be a bit better, Nevermore is sort-of power (they're kinda a mix, I think)...
nything I do or say is probably extremely stupid, and likely to cause me embarrasment in the future.

PanKot

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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2006, 01:15:40 pm »
Blind Guardian is pretty cool power metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znp-bF_Hc1g


but still one of the bast metalbands for me are (is?) Children Of Bodom
teh guitar 5k177 of Alexi Laiho is stunning

one of my favourites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iLIhLv8LuY

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PIE

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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2006, 05:17:56 pm »
I got to see bodom live actually during the Unholy alliance tour with slayer..  turned out to be the hilight of the show :D

If you want to see some insane riffage check out shadows fall.. they have a dvd version of "war within" and it has the guitarists playing some riffs... very fast, very complex.. they pretty much never break down into something that isn't either.

PanKot

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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2006, 07:16:32 pm »
checking out "shadows fall", I'll comment on that after I hear some decent amount of their music, I'm not going to judge band after few mp.3's :)

so far I must say I'm impressed



btw... CoB don't usually play Vivaldi, they are much much heavier, but still the vocalist doesn't sound like he is vomiting to the microphone (oh sweet death metal), and solo's like the one from "Mask Of Sanity" are far beyond my reach though I know how to handle guitar...
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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2006, 03:22:57 am »
Rammstein FTW!

St. Anger

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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2006, 04:55:19 am »
I like both heavy metal and "gangsta" as you call it and a little bit of "WTF?"  :P .
But the "gangsta" I like is real "gangsta" rap not some retarded G-unit or eminem or Kanye West. The heavy metal I listen to is very heavy (Sevendust, Slipknot, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Megadeth).

-I mainly like "gangsta" rap though.

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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2006, 08:27:38 am »
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Rammstein FTW!

Live aus berlin was fkin awesome.. and then I saw the parts they took out of the US release.. I'm not homophobic.. I can stand extremism in art.. but that was vulgar and I don't think i'm going to ever be able to really think of them the same again.. especially since I have read the lyrics to all of their songs... but Dalai Llama is still one of my favorite songs (maybe because i'm familiar with and really like "der erkonig" by... schumann?.. can't remember right now -_-).

tuple

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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2006, 01:10:35 pm »
reading all this makes me long for the days when a person could find variety in music by merely stepping away from the sameness of the Corporate music seen.  Radio stations actually had 10 song playlists!

It was after the birth of punk and within the sprawling alternative scene that it had bred.  Back then, alternative refered to music you couldn't find anywhere except by word of mouth.  Radio stations wouldn't touch it.  Music companies hadn't quite merged into the mega-conglomerates you see today, but they yearned to control this counter-culture which grew like a flash fire.
Menudo, Motley Crew, Rat, Madonna, Bon Jovi, Wham!, New Kids on the Block, Tiffany, the list goes on and on of music that saturated the airwaves with a sameness that was astounding.

There were some standouts in the 80s for sure.  Pink Floyd and AC/DC to name a couple.  But it was primarily the boy, hair, and corporate bands that ruled the day.

However, if you knew someone who knew someone who had a third generation copy of that Violent Femmes tape, they just might be willing to make a copy of it for you.  And that same friend just mentioned that Black Flag is coming to town, and it's $5 to get in!  Not the next town over, YOUR TOWN!  You've got five bucks, so you go and meet people who have even more copies of tapes to share, if anyone can find a blank tape!

The Cure, Souixse and the Banshees, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Depeche Mode, Echo & The Bunnymen, XTC, The Smiths, Joy Division/New Order, Bong Water, argh, I couldn't begin to remember them all. There were so many.

Some you may have heard of.  That's because of me and the countless kids who listened wouldn't adhere to the corporate muisc strategy of maximizing profits by playing to the lowest common denominator.  Back then, you would NEVER hear this stuff on the radio in the US.

The corporate music borg attempted to break into this scene, but it's key was that it was flourishing in a way that was contradictory to the business model of the corporations.  It was local to regional.  We had 2 record small record companies in my hometown of 200 thousand.  They sprang up like mushrooms throughout the land.  Corporate music finally broke into the scene by offering obscene sums of money to gobble up these myriad little companies.  To get an idea of just how much money they spent, look at the list of companies in the riaa.  Most of these companies live under one of a few corporate entities.  So they gobbled up the local companies and either brought these local alternative bands under their control, of fired them.  There was nowhere else to get a label, the corporations were busy absorbing them all.

What the corporate music culture labels as alternative today spang from that local scene though, and there are still standouts.  Tool, Disturbed
 and NIN to name a couple.  The sheer variety however, is sadly gone as is the type of artistic integrity and free experimentation that coincides with not being controlled.

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« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2006, 01:22:47 pm »
and thats why we praise the internets

and btw, hip hop culture should be punishable by death... ;)

no offense

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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2006, 01:48:08 pm »
Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"

and btw, hip hop culture should be punishable by death... ;)


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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2006, 04:47:07 pm »
Just cos they don't have a corporate licence doesn't make them good or 'rebellious'. It just means that the average person won't listen to them.

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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2006, 05:36:50 pm »
Quote from: "tuple"

What the corporate music culture labels as alternative today spang from that local scene though, and there are still standouts.  Tool, Disturbed
 and NIN to name a couple.  The sheer variety however, is sadly gone as is the type of artistic integrity and free experimentation that coincides with not being controlled.

Disturbed is a copy of so many copies.. BLEH.. tool has become too self important to branch out in honestly new territory, and NIN has become way too formulaic and has become a very close copy of itself...
If its on MTV (..it probably isn't music) ever then chances are its not cutting edges anywhere. Corporate bands have taken the main stream, but really after you get used to it it doesn't matter.
Instead of tapes its MP3s, the tickets are still cheap, and the fans are still there, its just that they have to seek the content instead of the content finding them via the usual routs. It comes from friends, and from inquiry instead of from the radio (XM is decent) or from some T.V. channel (Fuse is decent)... really that is just a healthier way to get anything anyway.