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Door Slammer

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2006, 11:57:24 pm »
Quote from: "Pacra"
AKKA is the new SST

You heard it here first


Unfortunately.  AKKA has become a noob fest without even admin control.

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2006, 12:09:12 am »
12 slots
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a good trem server

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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2006, 02:12:16 am »
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Good luck with it.

If Lava Croft just said the nicest thing in a thread, we're all doomed.

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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2006, 07:47:48 am »
I wouldn't, in my right mind, pay for a server that lags that bad with 40+ players.

I'v seen tribes servers that have played smoothly at 90+ players.
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2006, 07:55:26 am »
I for one wish them all the luck in funding the sst server.  He's been paying out of pocket and its gotten to be expensive.

I say again, Good luck.

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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2006, 11:13:19 pm »
Thank you door slammer, you made me have a little hope for the tremulous community, most of the responses in this thread are fairly disgusting

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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2006, 02:04:02 am »
24 Slots
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Bad Admins
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AKKA

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AKKA is the new SST

You heard it here first

Screw that shit. Akka will never be as popular as SST. NEVER.
Akka has good players. There are not enough admins on at a time and the admins act as if the have down syndrome. enough said.[/rant]
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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2006, 04:24:11 pm »
I recommend posting your requests for donation in game.

/cp Feed me!

As mentioned by others, most of your regulars probably don't even look here or your site. I understand the costs associated with hosting a game server, but if you go overboard with your setup (as SST has), your bound to lose in the long run!
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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2006, 05:09:48 pm »
:/ i just read this and all i mostly see is flaming how 1 server is better then others.

everyone has their likes and dislikes when it comes to servers. playercounts, ff, ping, all are different on each server.

i only play on 3 servers.

BG since its my friend shafe's server and he has beer. playercount is moderate now and ff is off. settings are mostly default. great place to get started.

SATGNU, ping might be kinda high for me 130 constant from college. but thats cause im in usa and its in europe. i still go on cause player count is perfect when server is full. and i have a lot of friends that ive know since stand alone release there and i just like to hang out with them.


and yes SST is my other server i like to play on. y cause i just find it challenging to play against a massive amount of people and even more massive amount of bp. plus i have a crapload of friends there too.

id donate if i could but im struggling to get through college as it is.  i can only sit by and watch all u guys flame SST.

all i ever see in this f'n server is f'n flaming posts about balance issues and trem is never balanced and all these noobs and aimbots and f'n whos the best player and builder, this server blah blah blah they all become flaming posts.

im kinda sick and tired of reading this forum.  


in summary i just wanna wish SST luck and pray it doesnt go down so i can continue having fun with my friends.  as for a crapload of other people on this forum ur all an embarresment to this community and practically every other post here makes me feel shitty that im part of a nuby forum.

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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2006, 07:58:30 pm »
To all the flamers on the thread:

You should have listened to when your mother told you to keep your mouth shut if you dont have anything nice to say, if not for the reason of being a good person then at least do it so you all don't look immature and childish.
Clan {Jo|So} were clan {No|Shows} at todays war between them..

The Magma Warriors are pissed off you wasted our time, and I have decided I will DOS attack your server, I have a program for that. Unless you want to get your asses on, and do a 3 on 3 or 4 on 4.

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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2006, 09:12:10 pm »
I've never used those servers so can't comment, but if something is crap then people have the right to say its crap. Otherwise we'd live in a world like Microsoft and Windows.

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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2006, 02:07:41 am »
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if something is crap then people have the right to say its crap. Otherwise we'd live in a world like Microsoft and Windows.

Actually, if gates hadn't thought "this shareware system is crap" in the first place there wouldn't be any proprietary software :)

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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2006, 03:18:17 am »
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Unknown"]
all i ever see in this f'n server is f'n flaming posts about balance issues and trem is never balanced and all these noobs and aimbots and f'n whos the best player and builder, this server blah blah blah they all become flaming posts.

im kinda sick and tired of reading this forum.  


in summary i just wanna wish SST luck and pray it doesnt go down so i can continue having fun with my friends.  as for a crapload of other people on this forum ur all an embarresment to this community and practically every other post here makes me feel shitty that im part of a nuby forum.

/set nubs&flamersfilter 1


Thank you for one of the most insightful posts in this thread.  Even though I don't ever play on SST (it seems like madness to me with that many players), I also appreciate that some people like to play there.  I'm not much of an FF guy - Trem doesn't seem right for FF, it seems too fast.  That's just my opinion, and I'm sure there are 50 fourm posters who will flame me for it.  I just don't like the idea of getting shot in the back by some n00b with bad aim who hasn't played before.  Again, it's just an opinon.

So yeah, even though I don't necessarily agree with everything SST does, I respect that it's some people's idea of fun.  Seriously, I'd love for BG and other servers around to get their hands on that patchset, it seems rather interesting.  There's a positive thing that SST has done for the community.  I think it's great that the guys there have been willingly paying for a server for often-ungrateful players.  I'd personally suggest Linux as a cheaper option (I understand they run Windows), but again, it's an opinion issue.  I'm not really one to talk about server details though, I don't run one at the moment.

Kudos to the SST guys.  :D
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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2006, 03:59:40 pm »
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SST has costed $1,908 this year, and soon, our host will bump the price up.

Thats $173/mo for an oversize server. Tremulous was (officially) not meant for more than 24 players (see server.cfg) and IMO doesn't work for more than 12-14. Save yourself some money, downgrade to DSL and host at \rate 3000.

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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2006, 06:07:04 pm »
Quote from: "[EVIL
Unknown"]

all i ever see in this f'n server is f'n flaming posts about balance issues and trem is never balanced and all these noobs and aimbots and f'n whos the best player and builder, this server blah blah blah they all become flaming posts.

im kinda sick and tired of reading this forum.  


in summary i just wanna wish SST luck and pray it doesnt go down so i can continue having fun with my friends.  as for a crapload of other people on this forum ur all an embarresment to this community and practically every other post here makes me feel shitty that im part of a nuby forum.

/set nubs&flamersfilter 1

....  I hope since you are so experienced here you know by now whining solves nothing. If you want to do any good, try contributing quality posts and threads. The whole forum if you are around long enough and read enough just keeps going around in circles repeating itself, and those who have seen it, get tired of it, and instead of trying to move it forward, they flame, or destroy threads.. or whine..

This SST thread however should have expected it and the condescension from those who use the server and come here to express support will only deepen the problem. A lot of people have problems with SST. They have problems with the kinds of players it creates, and they have problems with the way that a server like that warps the way you play the game, and for a lot of new players who tend to jump into the big servers first (so their disparities are not so noticeable), judge tremulous based on SST. I don't play there personally, because I feel it degrades my ability to play on regular servers. Expressing my opinion here, and the others doing similar is the culmination of all those SST discussions that have been going on. To expect them not to crop up here is ignoring reality.
I think its naive to expect this kind of return spontaneously from the people that play on your server. I find his response insulting, as do I find the insinuations in the rest of the SST posters posts insulting, while it is you, your server, and your community, not mine, that is asking for help. You guys need to learn humility and tact if you ever expect to get anything from anyone on the net, where this degeneration into flaming and whining seems to be so extremely easy. A LOT EASIER THAN DIGGING INTO MY WALLET. Especially for a server I and a lot of people here, as stated so many times, DO NOT PLAY ON.

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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2006, 10:18:03 pm »
Good job pie, you managed to wrap all the flaming up in this thread in one post dripping with your opinions.

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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2006, 01:51:27 am »
For all you SST haters think about this. If SST closes where would all the noobs go? They would invade all of the other servers!!!

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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2006, 02:46:04 am »
This horse is dead...
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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2006, 04:35:50 am »
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For all you SST haters think about this. If SST closes where would all the noobs go? They would invade all of the other servers!!!


namely beer garden....home of thousands of noobs.
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2006, 04:40:09 am »
SST is an average server, lots of noobs, deconners, and people who are plain idiots. But the price maybe too much. I mean it's not like you can keep up the server for like a year without clearing out your bank account money. Now they ask to donate, wow, we get so much time left until they ask for another donation. If SST goes down, I won't be surprised. Who can afford to pay almost 2000 dollars a year, with everything else needed to be payed for.

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« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2006, 05:04:57 pm »
Quote from: "Paradox"
While you may not like playing on sst, others do, and may not like playing on your server.
   All in all, please donate and help out a member of the community.


I suspect a large portion of the flaming you complain about can be sourced to a misunderstanding as to what you meant by the above quote, which I myself had to look at twice.  Taken in context of the whole, it can be read to imply that an individual should donate because there are those who do not like playing on that individuals server.  I do not think that this was intended.  In fact, I think that what was intended was to try to help avoid the kinds of reactions you are getting.

To some degree, I do not feel the reactions are entirely unfair though.  This site does request donations on the front page so you are bound to catch some heat from it's members in asking for your own donations on their forum.  You have also spoken very directly to the fact that concerns, comments, and/or complaints about SST should be taken to the SST forums.  That people here who have seen this would expect you to do the same with a request for donations is not unrealistic or an unreasonable request, though I would not make it.

It does not help that confess spoke with such a condescending tone.

Quote from: "confess"
Money is being forked over for you, a lot of it
You people are fools and really do not know how good you have it.
a shitload of money has gone into this crap and ill im getting out of it is that you guys are ungreatful little bastards.


Take me for instance, I operate a server, and help with others.  Additionally, I have donated to tremulous and others in teh community and I intend to continue.  Modest amounts I admit, but I do believe in supporting good communities where I can, and I think we all should. After all, noone playing tremulous is going hungry.  The only reason I have a server running is because enormous amounts of time has been expended by many people to build what was needed to create the game itself.  Reading about what an ungrateful bastard of a fool that I and others are is disconcerting at best, particularly when some of the people confess seems to be referring to are recommending donations to the developers of the server you are running.


With 30 people presently playing on sst, the #mercenariesguild irc bot reports:
<Adv_Dretch> Found 333 players on 94 servers.

SST is a part of a whole, and not the largest part.

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Ultimately, we should all contribute.  If you play a great deal on a server, donate to them.  Even $1 if possible, it all adds up.  If everyone who played on sst donated $2 the monthly costs would be covered in week one!  And what's $2 a month?!  We shouldn't stop there though, the tremulous dev's have devoted enormous amounts of time building, fixing, tuning, you name it.  We may not be able to pay an hourly wage to them, but we can certainly help buy a new computer, or even a nice dinner!  All through $1 and $2 dollar donations!  They have all helped you to have a LOT of FUN!  Help them to do the same :)

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« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2006, 11:00:47 pm »
Remember, sst also hosts other servers in the community, like one MG server. If we cant pay for the server, the hosting goes down.

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« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2006, 11:18:00 pm »
SST does not host any MG server, and hasn't for a while now.

AFAIK there are no other servers being hosted by SST at all. I was the only paying customer you ever had.

I'm not sorry to say that I agree with those you've labeled as "flamers" in this thread. If sst goes down or stays up, doesn't matter. Keep these sorts of threads on your own forum and your own server. Begging for donations on the wrong forum while insulting everyone else is not going to get you very far  and I'm surprised you haven't actually been flamed.


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« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2006, 01:33:53 am »
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I'm not sorry to say that I agree with those you've labeled as "flamers" in this thread. If sst goes down or stays up, doesn't matter. Keep these sorts of threads on your own forum and your own server. Begging for donations on the wrong forum while insulting everyone else is not going to get you very far and I'm surprised you haven't actually been flamed.


I like that Khalsa, and about all of that is true. Insulting people while wanting donations is like, shouting at a kid for his candy.

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« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2006, 01:53:08 am »
Funny, i have actually been flamed.

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