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the-hated

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« on: January 14, 2007, 11:54:19 am »
First off, if your only purpose in replying is to be an ass or to call me stupid or something then don't even waste your time, i don't care, i tried the search function and all i found was post after post of people asking about similar problems and a crap load of horntoads jumping all over them about being stupid but then not even saying what they did wrong.

     Before i even tell you what my problem is i want to say for the record that i have followed TJW's instructions PERFECTLY and am willing to take a screenshot of game.qvm sitting in the "C:\Documents and Settings\Robbie\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm" Folder, see i even copy and pasted my path.  I got the qvm file straight from http://tjw.org/tremulous/.  I have also tried the one that is in the balance mod post on this site.  

     Please what is causeing this error.  where it gives the error it's saying" found when expecting" but on the screen between "found" and "when" there is a square.  if i use the qvm file from the balance mod post i get an 8 in that spot.

tremulous 1.1.0 win_mingw-x86 Aug 27 2006
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Documents and Settings\Robbie\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous/base
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-unlagged-beta.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.1Unlagged.pk3 (1 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.0.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\race.pk3 (42 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\nameless_alpha.pk3 (29 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\mod-fixedsounds.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\minicube.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\marsbase.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_powergrid_b25.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_aegis_station.pk3 (13 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-wth.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-UTCSb2.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-urban-p2.pk3 (83 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-alpha3.pk3 (77 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-124.pk3 (82 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-unnamed.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uncreation-1.1.0.pk3 (110 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-tremor-1.1.0.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-transit-1.1.0.pk3 (135 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal-b2.pk3 (207 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-theBunker-1.0.0.pk3 (107 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov_0.5.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov_0.4.pk3 (100 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (79 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta2-1.1.0.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta1-1.1.0.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pulse-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (198 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon-beta2.pk3 (93 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon-beta1.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Outpost-Warthog.pk3 (300 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-openfield-beta2.pk3 (49 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-omega_b1.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-nexus6-1.1.0.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-minetest2.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-meep_b2.pk3 (181 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth.pk3 (60 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth-Build14.pk3 (112 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-karith-1.1.0.pk3 (118 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom_b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom3t.pk3 (172 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom2beta2.pk3 (219 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gamma_core-beta6.pk3 (78 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-foto_ita.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-DMB01-alpa.1.0.pk3 (141 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-derelictb-beta04.pk3 (178 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-cannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Bunker5634.pk3 (40 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-battlezone_final.pk3 (19 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b2.pk3 (50 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arkadia.pk3 (39 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arachnid2-1.1.0.pk3 (67 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ancient_remains-0.6.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\highrise-b5.pk3 (23 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\hamunaptra.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\data-1.1.0.pk3 (1229 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\dark.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous/base

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6398 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
execing autogen.cfg
execing autoexec.cfg
Duck OFF
Normal Server
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
...detecting CPU, found generic

------- Input Initialization -------
No window for DirectInput mouse init, delaying
Joystick is not active.
------------------------------------
--- Common Initialization Complete ---
Winsock Initialized
Opening IP socket: localhost:30720
Hostname: KRONOS
IP: 192.168.1.100
Working directory: C:\Program Files\Tremulous
execing server.cfg
------ Server Initialization ------
Server: atcs
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Documents and Settings\Robbie\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous/base
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-unlagged-beta.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.1Unlagged.pk3 (1 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.0.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\race.pk3 (42 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\nameless_alpha.pk3 (29 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\mod-fixedsounds.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\minicube.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\marsbase.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_powergrid_b25.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_aegis_station.pk3 (13 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-wth.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-UTCSb2.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-urban-p2.pk3 (83 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-alpha3.pk3 (77 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-124.pk3 (82 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-unnamed.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uncreation-1.1.0.pk3 (110 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-tremor-1.1.0.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-transit-1.1.0.pk3 (135 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal-b2.pk3 (207 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-theBunker-1.0.0.pk3 (107 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov_0.5.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov_0.4.pk3 (100 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (79 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta2-1.1.0.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta1-1.1.0.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pulse-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (198 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon-beta2.pk3 (93 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon-beta1.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Outpost-Warthog.pk3 (300 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-openfield-beta2.pk3 (49 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-omega_b1.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-nexus6-1.1.0.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-minetest2.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-meep_b2.pk3 (181 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth.pk3 (60 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth-Build14.pk3 (112 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-karith-1.1.0.pk3 (118 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom_b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom3t.pk3 (172 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom2beta2.pk3 (219 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gamma_core-beta6.pk3 (78 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-foto_ita.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-DMB01-alpa.1.0.pk3 (141 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-derelictb-beta04.pk3 (178 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-cannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Bunker5634.pk3 (40 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-battlezone_final.pk3 (19 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b2.pk3 (50 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arkadia.pk3 (39 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arachnid2-1.1.0.pk3 (67 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ancient_remains-0.6.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\highrise-b5.pk3 (23 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\hamunaptra.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\data-1.1.0.pk3 (1229 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\dark.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous/base

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12796 files in pk3 files
Loading vm file vm/game.qvm...
...which has vmMagic VM_MAGIC_VER2
Loading 746 jump table targets
VM file game compiled to 1041421 bytes of code
game loaded in 8928512 bytes on the hunk
------- Game Initialization -------
gamename: base
gamedate: Mar 27 2006
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InitGame: \sv_minRate\5000\g_suddenDeathTime\30\g_maxGameClients\0\sv_maxPing\0\sv_minPing\0\sv_maxRate\15000\sv_maxclients\20\sv_hostname\[nGo] Home Base!\timelimit\35\version\tremulous 1.1.0 win_mingw-x86 Aug 27 2006\protocol\69\mapname\atcs\sv_privateClients\0\sv_allowDownload\1\g_needpass\0\gamename\base
********************
ERROR: G_ParseSpawnVars: found when expecting {
********************
----- Server Shutdown (Server crashed: G_ParseSpawnVars: found when expecting {) -----
Resolving master.tremulous.net
master.tremulous.net resolved to 72.36.226.187:30710
Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
==== ShutdownGame ====
ShutdownGame:
------------------------------------------------------------
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Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
Hitch warning: 102217130 msec frame time
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kevlarman

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Re: Server Problems
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 06:36:25 pm »
Quote from: "the-hated"
First off, if your only purpose in replying is to be an ass or to call me stupid or something then don't even waste your time, i don't care, i tried the search function and all i found was post after post of people asking about similar problems and a crap load of horntoads jumping all over them about being stupid but then not even saying what they did wrong.

     Before i even tell you what my problem is i want to say for the record that i have followed TJW's instructions PERFECTLY and am willing to take a screenshot of game.qvm sitting in the "C:\Documents and Settings\Robbie\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm" Folder, see i even copy and pasted my path.  I got the qvm file straight from http://tjw.org/tremulous/.  I have also tried the one that is in the balance mod post on this site.  

     Please what is causeing this error.  where it gives the error it's saying" found when expecting" but on the screen between "found" and "when" there is a square.  if i use the qvm file from the balance mod post i get an 8 in that spot.
(emphasis mine)
Quote from: "tjw.org/tremulous/SETUP.txt"

1) make the directory:
\Documents and Settings\YOU\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm
  where "YOU" is your windows username.
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Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2007, 02:36:22 pm »
You got incorrect game.qvm, i think kevlarman told how to get it (too lazy to read it ;))
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the-hated

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 03:28:51 pm »
The first reply was the problem, thanks for pointing out my mistake rather then calling me a newbtard.
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kevlarman

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 07:02:25 pm »
Quote from: "the-hated"
rather then calling me a newbtard.
it was tempting, because lots of noobs get this wrong, but i didn't because you obviously read the directions.
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Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 08:38:51 pm »
Quote from: "kevlarman"
Quote from: "the-hated"
rather then calling me a newbtard.
it was tempting, because lots of noobs get this wrong, but i didn't because you obviously read the directions.


Yeah, don't get replies to server problems as an image of the community, its just annoying to answer a post like this every day ;)
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the-hated

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 02:49:08 am »
If it's such a common mistake why wouldn't he put a note there in the instructions? to verify it's got that extra path.
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kevlarman

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 02:58:20 am »
Quote from: "the-hated"
If it's such a common mistake why wouldn't he put a note there in the instructions? to verify it's got that extra path.
the common mistake is to ignore step 2 completely and put it in C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\ (vm may or not be on the end of that...)
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Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333
Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 10:36:54 am »
It's not that common mistake, none of big server hosters has had that problem, just read the manual  :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 11:42:25 am »
if it's not that common of a problem then give me another reason why people get so pissy when the question is asked... the fact that it's a common mistake of noobs would explain why people get so pissed but if it's not a common problem then what possible reason could people have for being such ass's.

Bottom line, either it should have a note put in the instructions or there just happens to be a lot of people with bad attitudes on these forums.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2007, 11:14:47 pm »
Quote from: "Somethief"
It's not that common mistake, none of big server hosters has had that problem, just read the manual  :roll:


No big server hoster uses windows.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2007, 11:16:59 pm »
Quote from: "hosler"
No big server hoster uses windows.


SST does. They don't have this problem.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 02:53:21 am »
Quote from: "next_ghost"

SST does. They don't have this problem.


SST uses windows? Sweet, now I know never to rent a server from them. Ever.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 11:45:48 am »
Up until recenetly(Confess sudden lack of money) SST never crashed(Exept for the minor thing here and there) and almost everything was fine. I've seen servers hosted on macs and linux crash much more then on windows.

In fact, SST just recently switched to a linux server, and suddenly, we get horrible lag spikes lasting for several minutes where everyone hits 500+ ping. I recall killaz server experiencing the same thing a while back.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 12:38:12 pm »
well here's another one for you, i am noticing a few servers that when you join don't show how much ammo you have...if i try to run my server without the balance mod i have the same problem.  As for crashing ... i've been running a balance mod server now ever since I figued out how to start it up without any crashes.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 01:12:52 pm »
Quote from: "next_ghost"
Quote from: "hosler"
No big server hoster uses windows.


SST does. They don't have this problem.


lol....

For each job it's own tool. And if you are willing to pay ~ 400 Bucks for a crappy/shady hosting service, that was until recently selling Teamspeak servers w/o the resale-license, makes one wonder if the windows-server-licenses are legit, too.

And who in his right mind would pay a license for the server in order to run a free game that runs more smooth on a *nix?
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 04:55:45 pm »
I have yet to see one non-hypothetical problem with running a trem server on windows rather the linux... and another thing... use your head for a minute, if people are having problems setting up a trem server on windows (the easiest OS to use on this planet) then how do you figure it'd be better to use Linux or unix or solaris?  They'd be having 10 times the problems with just trying to figure out the OS.

Linux has it's place as a server, there is no doubt that it is more resource efficient, but for running a simple server for a free game ... get a clue.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 05:17:03 pm »
Quote from: "the-hated"
I have yet to see one non-hypothetical problem with running a trem server on windows rather the linux... and another thing... use your head for a minute, if people are having problems setting up a trem server on windows (the easiest OS to use on this planet) then how do you figure it'd be better to use Linux or unix or solaris?  They'd be having 10 times the problems with just trying to figure out the OS.

Linux has it's place as a server, there is no doubt that it is more resource efficient, but for running a simple server for a free game ... get a clue.

 :O :eek:

Get a clue and stop trolling.

And BTW, trem is indeed easier to setup a server with Linux than with Windows.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 07:12:25 pm »
Quote from: "Stof"

 :O :eek:

Get a clue and stop trolling.

And BTW, trem is indeed easier to setup a server with Linux than with Windows.


Not really, linux users just mostly know their OS better than windows users do
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 07:17:44 pm »
Quote from: "Somethief"
Not really, linux users just mostly know their OS better than windows users do


Which brings us back to the most important thing: If you're not smart enough to set up a server with step by step guide in your hand, you're definitely not smart enough to maintain it and you'll do us all a BIG favor by stopping your effort. There're already way too many servers with no or clueless admins.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 10:48:23 pm »
Quote from: "next_ghost"

Which brings us back to the most important thing: If you're not smart enough to set up a server with step by step guide in your hand, you're definitely not smart enough to maintain it and you'll do us all a BIG favor by stopping your effort. There're already way too many servers with no or clueless admins.


You are awesome.

Quote from: "castitatis"

In fact, SST just recently switched to a linux server, and suddenly, we get horrible lag spikes lasting for several minutes where everyone hits 500+ ping. I recall killaz server experiencing the same thing a while back.


Wow, for a clan that was given a free server, killaz sure does complain a lot. Anyway, they don't have one to talk about anymore.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2007, 12:52:10 am »
It is in no way a complaint, its a statement. I didn't say: Crappy killaz server had lag, hosler ripped us off!
No, I stated that the server was experiencing lag spikes.
Wether a service you offer is free or not, you should still, to some point, try and fix problems. You aren't obligated too, but you still should.

Most clan servers are exactly like ours was, given by a member of their clan.


IDK what happened between you and high over the server, and franctly, I can care less.
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