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« on: January 17, 2007, 02:25:32 am »
Some of you may have played various RTS games. You may recall that all RTS games contain upgrades/research for new/better equipment. Since Tremulous is a fusion of FPS and RTS, how about when stages increase, you can go to the defense computer, open a menu, and select an upgrade to research? So instead of instantly gaining the ability to buy Pulse Rifles/helmets/etc, you have to research it first?
The aim of this suggestion is to increase the usage of defense computers. Most teams past stage 2 don't even build the defense computer, and I think it's a little unused.
Aliens could have their alternative by opening the upgrade menu through the booster.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2007, 04:38:22 am »
Sounds very familiar. I think we had this proposal some time ago.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2007, 07:12:10 am »
It depends.

Do we have to mine redstone first?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2007, 11:54:18 am »
OMG MAI DEFCOMP IZ UUZLESS~
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2007, 12:43:39 pm »
[cough]Natural Selection[/cough]
Everyone has all these newfound ideas for the DefComp.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2007, 05:23:13 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2007, 06:21:24 pm »
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[cough]Natural Selection[/cough]
Everyone has all these newfound ideas for the DefComp.
Actually I've never played Natural Selection.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2007, 07:03:12 pm »
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It depends.

Do we have to mine redstone first?


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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2007, 07:58:09 pm »
I haven't either, but I've browsed through the manual somewhat, trying to compare it to Trem.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 05:54:52 am »
who cares about that old-looking raggy def comp? Who needs that junk? Who needs that awesome eletric-shocking defense tower thinggie? Who needs a tower that will help us from Tyrants? Who needs a building that without it, humans will get owned?
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 05:58:01 am »
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who cares about that old-looking raggy def comp? Who needs that junk? Who needs that awesome eletric-shocking defense tower thinggie? Who needs a tower that will help us from Tyrants? Who needs a building that without it, humans will get owned?
turrets do more damage than teslas if all the bullets hit (like if the turret is shooting at a tyrant), the only use for teslas is to keep goons and maras off the top of your reactor.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 03:12:27 am »
The problem with this idea is it leads to lots of extra buildings which become useless junk after they research the pulse rifle, etc...   And it'd lead to useless builder fighting as to whether to build the pulse rifle factory or the LuciCannon factory etc... with limited build points.  That'd kill the fun of customability as playing humans.

I think the better way is to go with the system in place, and just string out the equipment by simply adding extra levels, like S4 for LuciCannon/Tyrants.  Something like a Server side option.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 02:41:29 pm »
It doesn't have to include extra buildings, just that the weapon has to researched first before it becomes available.

We could use a new team resource, that, for every kill, your team gets something from it, the amount depends on the enemy's equipment.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2007, 10:02:44 pm »
Spend credits/evos towards a research fund.
When the fund is big enough, you get a new tech.
In addition to research, you could buy BP instead.
Once you are done researching every last thing, you can buy some more BP.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 09:39:59 am »
WE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS


seriously though - whats the point?
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2007, 05:42:21 pm »
you guys are trying to make tremulous more RTS and RTS...
and soon FPS fanatics will go *BOOM* and rebel against the tremulous.

and then maybe RTS fanatics and FPS fantarics will start having a war, FPS fanatics with guns, arrows, swords, and others while RTS fanatics controlling mindless toys.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2007, 11:31:34 pm »
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you guys are trying to make tremulous more RTS and RTS...
and soon FPS fanatics will go *BOOM* and rebel against the tremulous.

and then maybe RTS fanatics and FPS fantarics will start having a war, FPS fanatics with guns, arrows, swords, and others while RTS fanatics controlling mindless toys.

and me watching with a bag of popcorn
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2007, 04:00:45 am »
It seems like it would do more harm than good.

Noobs wouldn't help out with research, so in many cases, it would just make it harder to get good guns.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2007, 04:30:31 am »
maybe if an individual on your team gets 100 kills, your team gets ponies from research. If your team gets 300 collective kills, you get fish from research. If two people on your team get 100 kills, you get a pink bunny cannon from research.
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2007, 08:34:09 am »
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you guys are trying to make tremulous more RTS and RTS...
and soon FPS fanatics will go *BOOM* and rebel against the tremulous.

and then maybe RTS fanatics and FPS fantarics will start having a war, FPS fanatics with guns, arrows, swords, and others while RTS fanatics controlling mindless toys.

and me watching with a bag of popcorn

does that mean you are neither FPS and RTS? KILL HIM!
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2007, 09:41:58 pm »
No, we need to blend some Turn-Based-Strategy in.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2007, 09:49:47 pm »
Somone mod Tremulous into Age Of Wonders for me please. kthxbi
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2007, 04:06:26 pm »
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While you said it in a horribly flamish way, disrespecting the atmosphere on these forums, you are correct. The defcomp is useless.

The core issue of upgrades does not work with this game. It is currently balancd, and making humans wait to use their big guns will most likely unbalance it.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2007, 10:54:20 pm »
Quote from: "holyknight"
Quote from: "AKAnotu"
Quote from: "holyknight"
you guys are trying to make tremulous more RTS and RTS...
and soon FPS fanatics will go *BOOM* and rebel against the tremulous.

and then maybe RTS fanatics and FPS fantarics will start having a war, FPS fanatics with guns, arrows, swords, and others while RTS fanatics controlling mindless toys.

and me watching with a bag of popcorn

does that mean you are neither FPS and RTS? KILL HIM!

i'm both.....i just don't take sides
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OMG MAI DEFCOMP IZ UUZLESS~
While you said it in a horribly flamish way, disrespecting the atmosphere on these forums, you are correct. The defcomp is useless.

The core issue of upgrades does not work with this game. It is currently balancd, and making humans wait to use their big guns will most likely unbalance it.

you are not a god here rekov, don't attemt to try being one. He is actually respecting the atmosphere of the forums, considering the condition of the posts here. Further attempts will probably garner more flames like this.
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2007, 09:58:11 am »
Don't be daft. We dont have any gods around here


Just us daemons (and yes it is cooler if spelt that way)
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2007, 07:06:02 pm »
i think its pretty lame spelt that way
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2007, 08:44:58 am »
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i think its pretty lame spelt that way

Don't touch Henners.
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2007, 09:38:06 am »
Dun dun dun dun - dun dun - can't touch this....
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2007, 05:15:03 pm »
Daemons refer supernatural beings between mortals and gods, such as inferior divinities and ghosts of dead heroes, classical Greek mythology.
Demons refer to supernatural being that has generally been described as a malevolent spirit, Christian mythology.
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2007, 05:40:50 pm »
*pokes henners*
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