*Sigh* Things have changed...

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

If anyone is old enough to have been alive in the samme period as this computer, then you should be planning your pension scheme not playing Trem

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[n00b pl0x]

make fun of my computer again and i will kill you.

[Diggs]

You will have to do better than that Shadow.  The Tandy 5000 was well along the PC chain and almost modern history.  It was a 80386 (20 mhz) based machine that ran IBM's OS2.  I have an original PC AT around here somewhere (80286 processor at 12 mhz).  I have older machines than that laying around.  My first PC was 8086 based (8 mhz) Leading Edge (name of the PC maker) with a 30 MB hard drive (long gone).    Before that was the IBM Datamaster, TRS-80 (Trash-80), Commodore 64, Vic-20, etc.  All non-PC based machines.

Did you know the first hard drive IBM made for the PC was called a Winchester drive?  They wanted a 30 MB hard drive with a 30 ms. access time.  Hence the 30-30, ie. the Winchester (as in the 30-30 Winchester hunting rifle).

OK-
I've rambled enough and shown my age.  Any one else?


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(BTW-  It's not pension but 401K  and IRA)

[n00b pl0x]

you like to ramble you should have just made a list of older pcs and then said which you had
30mb harddrive wouldnt even hold hamunaptra and ancient remains lol.

[Taiyo.uk]

My abacus still pwnz0rz all j00r b0x3n.

[yetshi]

thats not old, you should see my wang.

[techhead]

Used to have a Macintosh IIvx, and an old Atari 800.
Yes, Atari once made computers, not just games.

[Diggs]

thats not old, you should see my wang.

Really?  Still working (not that you could use it for anything anymore)?  I'm very impressed!

(Most today would think you just made a sexual slur, but some of us know better.)

@n00b
I just made a list of the PCs I owned at one time or another.  The first hard drives at the time I remember were 20 MB (MFMs, my 30 MB was RLL)

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[Diggs]

Used to have a Macintosh IIvx, and an old Atari 800.
Yes, Atari once made computers, not just games.

Atari were excellent and way ahead of their time with their computers.  The sound and graphics generators they put in the machines were probably more advanced than any personal computer of the time.  I never had an Atari, but always wanted one.


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[Shafe]

My first comp was a commodore vic 20..

Handfuls of other computers at various times.. the one that sticks out was my first ibm pc compatable.. running an 8088 processor, 1200 baud modem, 10mb hard drive... awesome machine.. ran a bbs on it for years.

[Diggs]

Did your Vic have the tape drive?  Slow, but huge storage.

I remember the first IBM PC not having a hard drive (2 floppies), but I don't remember the 10 MB hard drives.  That must have been huge at the time.  My first modem was 2400 baud, but I remember snagging a 300 baud, acoustically coupled modem from the computer lab in college to use.  That was when you took the handset of a phone (they were all the same back then) and pressed it into the cups and it did all the send and receive through the handset.

Those were the days (and I never want to go there again).


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[Basilisco]

I'm too young to know anything older than this beauty right here



Black and White goodness <3

[kozak6]

We have one of those in the garage somewhere.

My brother bought it in the mid-90's for like $5.

[Taiyo.uk]

I'm playing tremulous on a PDP-11/44.

[DASPRiD]

But my one was black, had in-built cassette reader AND a 1337 green display instead of blue

[Stof]

CPC 6128 for the win! Now with true multitasking OS capabilities: http://www.symbos.de/facts.htm

[kevlarman]

My first PC was 8086 based (8 mhz) Leading Edge (name of the PC maker) with a 30 MB hard drive (long gone).

same chip (well almost, it's a z80), nearly twice the clock speed (15mhz): don't you just love moore's law?

[Diggs]

@DASPRiD-
There's the tape drive I remember and you are right.  I always remembered the 64s being black.  I thought both the Vic and 64 used a TV for display(?).

@Kevlar-
The Z80 is very close to the 8086/8088.  Most kids on this forum have no idea who Moore was/is or what his law says.  Someday in modern history classes...



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[kevlarman]

Most kids on this forum have no idea who Moore was/is or what his law says.  Someday in modern history classes...

i'm pretty sure that by most standards i would be grouped with "most kids on the forum", though just barely.

[Diggs]

Most kids on this forum have no idea who Moore was/is or what his law says.  Someday in modern history classes...

i'm pretty sure that by most standards i would be grouped with "most kids on the forum", though just barely.

The you go to the head of your Comp-Sci class.  On the previous thread about writing desks, on my picture of my desk on the right side wall is an 8" wafer used to make Intel Celeron chips.  And Gordon Moore was....?  (Hint hint)


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[gareth]

And Gordon Moore was....?  (Hint hint)

full of shit.

[Neo]

Involved in the rise of the CPU industry version of Microsoft?

Integrated Electronics FTS

[Diggs]

@gareth-
Yes, you are full of shit.  Get a life and don't bother us with your rudeness.

@Neo-
Very close, but nothing to do with Microsoft.


Moore was co-founder of Intel which makes him in the top 100 richest people at around $3.7 billion. Moore's law in detail is here-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law


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[Neo]

If you read my post carefully I never said they have anything to do with Microsoft, just they act like Microsoft.

Moore founded Integrated Electronics, it only became Intel later as a brand change. Try to keep up

[Diggs]

Sorry I misinterpreted your earlier post about Microsoft.

I figured I had been into too much detail already so I left the IE part out.

"Try to keep up."  Why the attitude?  If you would like to discuss chip theory, design, material compounds and manufacture, I'm there (and without the attitude).


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[Taiyo.uk]

In my day computers were built from 74 series chips. You spent more time hunting down dry joints than debugging software. Be happy.

[Diggs]

Wow!!!  The 74/7400 NANOs as we called them.  A blast from my past at TI in Houston.  I was on the manufacturing side of things back then.  Fond memories, (but more for the weekends on Galveston Island I think.)


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[Foobicam]

...   Before that was the IBM Datamaster, TRS-80 (Trash-80), Commodore 64, Vic-20, etc.  All non-PC based machines.

Did you know the first hard drive IBM made for the PC was called a Winchester drive?  They wanted a 30 MB hard drive with a 30 ms. access time.  Hence the 30-30, ie. the Winchester (as in the 30-30 Winchester hunting rifle).

My first computer was a 1 MHz 6502 chip running on an Ohio Scientific motherboard.  That's when Motorola 6800 chips were running about $250 (in 1975 dollars!) and MOS Technology (later Commodore) had just introduced the 6502 at the amazing price of $25.

I later upgraded to a Synertek SYM-1 single-board 6502 computer with audio cassette storage.

[Foobicam]

If anyone is old enough to have been alive in the samme period as this computer, then you should be planning your pension scheme not playing Trem

And if you're old enough to be playing on a computer purchased with your own money (i.e. not still playing on mom's machine), you should also be planning your retirement.  If you're not fully funding a 401k and IRA your first day on the job, you're a loser.

[n00b pl0x]

If anyone is old enough to have been alive in the samme period as this computer, then you should be planning your pension scheme not playing Trem

And if you're old enough to be playing on a computer purchased with your own money (i.e. not still playing on mom's machine), you should also be planning your retirement.  If you're not fully funding a 401k and IRA your first day on the job, you're a loser.

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