I Installed Tremulous, But When I Opened Up

[WeToYou1]

A blue error screen appeared stating my computer had a problem for two seconds, and then my computer restarted.

[Caveman]

Welcome to the world of Windows. If you can not give any more information, this all the help you'll likely get.

[Sjoerd]

The blue screen contains an error message that might be useful, as of now Windows automatically reboots so you can't write it down.

Use the steps below to change that:

1) Go to the Desktop, right click 'My computer', select 'Properties'.
2) The 'System Properties' screen will show, click the 'Advanced' tab.
3) Under 'Startup and Recovery' click the Setting button.
4) You will find an option called 'Automatically restart', disable it.
5) Click OK twice to confirm.

Now try to start tremulous again and write down the error that shows in the first section of the blue screen.

[next_ghost]

There's one solution that works regardless of the cause of that blue screen of death: http://www.ubuntu.com/

[Somethief]

Stop flaming that ubuntu, some ppl just dont want it.

Just get in control panel -> Surveillance tools (I got finnish copy, find something similar  :wink:) -> even log -> system from left.
Not sure if its in there, but try

[tomek-k]

The blue screen contains an error message that might be useful, as of now Windows automatically reboots so you can't write it down.

lol

(Yes! at last 100 posts!!!)

[n00b pl0x]

blue screen of death reboots rediculously fast. the one time it happened to me it took me a while to figure out what had happened

[floodbud]

There's one solution that works regardless of the cause of that blue screen of death: http://www.ubuntu.com/

No, you didn't, you just threw out THE WORST Linux OS ever, I hate you, it would have been better if you had said SuSE, Ubuntu sucks...
BTW, if your just a gamer dont bother freaking yourself out with Linux, I multi OS, but thats if you want to learn about caomputers.

[next_ghost]

blah blah blah

I'm a Gentoo user. I've pointed him to Ubuntu because it's extremely newbie friendly and AFAIK it's much closer to the original Linux spirit than Fedora or SUSE. Anyway, anybody who doesn't want a cheap Windows clone will go straight for Slackware, Arch, Debian or Gentoo, not Ubuntu, not SUSE, and especially not Fedora.

[tomek-k]

(...) I've pointed him to Ubuntu because it's extremely newbie friendly and AFAIK it's much closer to the original Linux spirit than Fedora or SUSE. (...)

totally agree :wink:

[FooBar]

At this point we're completely off-topic, but hey.  If you want to use Linux, Ubuntu has a pretty good out-of-the-box functionality for newbies and will give you a usable desktop that's fairly friendly to Windows users.  Honestly I've only ever used Debian (and now Ubuntu) so I can't comment on other distributions, but remember this:

Even if you install Ubuntu or another user-friendly flavor of Linux, it will probably take some work to get your graphics card to work properly with Linux.  You'll have to learn at least a little bit about the internal working of Linux to do this.  In any pre-installed Windows your graphics drivers come pre-installed too, so you probably haven't dealt with this before.

I dual-boot Linux and Windows: I use Windows for gaming & multimedia, and Linux for programming etc.  Honestly I wouldn't want to have to use just one or the other.

[TinMan]

FooBar, WINE rocks.  =P

[Ace1]

come on windows

[tomek-k]

At this point we're completely off-topic, but hey.  If you want to use Linux, Ubuntu has a pretty good out-of-the-box functionality for newbies and will give you a usable desktop that's fairly friendly to Windows users.  Honestly I've only ever used Debian (and now Ubuntu) so I can't comment on other distributions, but remember this:

Even if you install Ubuntu or another user-friendly flavor of Linux, it will probably take some work to get your graphics card to work properly with Linux.  You'll have to learn at least a little bit about the internal working of Linux to do this.  In any pre-installed Windows your graphics drivers come pre-installed too, so you probably haven't dealt with this before.

I dual-boot Linux and Windows: I use Windows for gaming & multimedia, and Linux for programming etc.  Honestly I wouldn't want to have to use just one or the other.

As for the gfx drivers - Intel has open-sourced their gfx drivers some time ago and the drivers were included into the kernel so you don't have to install them if you have intel graphics card/controller. Hope other manufacturers will do the same... :wink:

[floodbud]

I only put SuSE there, not because it was the best because its not, but to show how bad I hate Ubuntoo.  But I have to agree that each OS has its strengths and weaknesses, ie Window for games and media, Linux for when I feel like being nerdy and programming.

[Caveman]

Windows for media?
HUH? What media can't be handled by Linux?

[tomek-k]

hehe, linux can handle even the Windows Media

[AKAnotu]

macs are even better
i'll direct you over here: www.apple.com

[TinMan]

Media eh? Well to me .wmv's are all shit, .mov's are annoying to deal with, but mpeg4's are GODDAMN SEXY!

[floodbud]

macs are even better
i'll direct you over here: www.apple.com

Dude, dont get me started on Macs, theyve lost it in hardware, third party companies, games, programming and alot of other stuff, although the stability of OS X is nice, to me its not worth goin without games, and having to put up with terminal, but then agian that all comes down to opinion....

[TinMan]

Terminal: If you can't put up with a terminal then you don't belong on a computer, everyone should have a basic knowledge of DOS or a *nix shell.

Games: Mac OS X handles games fine if you have the hardware for it, Quake 4 in your face!

Hardware: If I ever owned a Mac desktop, I wouldn't get anything other than their best, because I agree with you...they put out some systems with hardware that the PC market has had beat for a while, good thing they made the smart move to x86 architecture. I really do hate their partnering with ATI, but then again I have an Intel MacBook (non-pro) and actually wish I'd gotten one with an ATI chipset...but then it wouldn't have been black. They need more customizable options on their laptops, I've dealt with Mac desktops and what people say about upgrading was complete BS to me, you don't throw it out and get a new one, you fold it open (amazingly the one I worked on had the sweetest case ever, folded open in a breeze, it'd be nice for LAN Parties), you pop out the old stuff and pop in the new, it's like playing with legos.

Stability: Stable is an opinion...no proprietary nor OSS operating system is truly "stable", there are exploits being found constantly.

Summary: Get good with all OSes, don't be ignorant. Learn some DOS, learn some shell, dual or tri-boot your system, don't pay big bucks for stuff that runs slow but looks cool.

[tomek-k]

Media eh? Well to me .wmv's are all shit, .mov's are annoying to deal with, but mpeg4's are GODDAMN SEXY!

yeah... too bad that so many people create wmv's, just because they use standard Windows' movie creator...

[floodbud]

Im, fine for DOS, its just that I dont know if its my luck or not, but Terminal likes to freak out when I use it, Im not ignorant either, I was stuck with Macs for about six years.  And media wise, the only reason I preffer Windows, is because Im more of a console man, and it will stream it to my 360
Games, sure some are Mac compatable, but for most you need Boot Camp.
Hardware wise, its not Microsof tvs Apple, its third party companies vs Apple, and because Apple doesnt believe in third party companies to devolope their hardware, its not very price friendly......

[Kaleo]

don't pay big bucks for stuff that runs slow but looks cool.

*cough*VISTA*cough*

[Lava Croft]

How come that whenever a Windows user posts a problem on these forums, which isn't often, he/she is met with utter ridicule by the Linux users that frequent this forum, and the thread ends in some discussion about OS's.
This is even funnier when you take into account that every Linux newbie that comes here with even the most dumbass basic of problems is met with the most friendly faces, and helped on all sides.

If you cannot help the Windows user with his/her problem, do not use the thread as an advertisement platform for your OS extremism.
This is specifically aimed at Next_Ghost, somebody who seems to be worse than a Jehova's witness in his OS extremism.

[next_ghost]

If you cannot help the Windows user with his/her problem, do not use the thread as an advertisement platform for your OS extremism.
This is specifically aimed at Next_Ghost, somebody who seems to be worse than a Jehova's witness in his OS extremism.

Linux has sane file system structure, it's designed as DEVELOPER system and Linux newbies don't ask how to edit a config file, they ask what option will fix their problem. When linux newbies actually start asking really stupid questions, they'll also get really stupid answers.

[FooBar]

WeToYou1, if you're still having trouble, try following Sjoerd's suggestion, then write down the error message and tell us what it is.  We can only help you if we have more information.

Lava_Croft, I'm a dual-booter (using primarily Linux these days), but I wrote an entire how-to for Windows users.  You can find it here.  I actually think this forum is fairly Windows-friendly (in spite of the Linux proselytizing).

[Lava Croft]

Next_Ghost you are not going to do anything other than bash on this person and his choice of OS, just like the nazi you are. Go away.

[Odin]

If you cannot help the Windows user with his/her problem, do not use the thread as an advertisement platform for your OS extremism.
This is specifically aimed at Next_Ghost, somebody who seems to be worse than a Jehova's witness in his OS extremism.

Linux has sane file system structure, it's designed as DEVELOPER system and Linux newbies don't ask how to edit a config file, they ask what option will fix their problem. When linux newbies actually start asking really stupid questions, they'll also get really stupid answers.

The first thing a Linux newby should learn is how to properly configure his system. Any Linux user would know that. Configuration often involves editing text files in Linux. Duh.

Yes, Linux is good(and I wouldn't recommend using any other O/S) but there is no reason to be so extreme about the O/S itself. If you like it, that's nice, but don't force it upon other people just because they have a problem in their current O/S of choice.

[next_ghost]

Next_Ghost you are not going to do anything other than bash on this person and his choice of OS, just like the nazi you are. Go away.

Godwin's law still works.

I have only one thing to add: Even if WeToYou1 had posted any useful information from the blue screen, the chance of actually finding out what's wrong in a monolithic binary-only operating system is zero. If such a problem persists even after clean OS installation, there're only two choices: Either give up on Tremulous or get another OS. I don't believe that you'd like the first solution over the second one :roll: Yes, Linux sometimes has similar problems but at least it says a little more than "something bad has happened in module foo at adress blah blah blah" and allows YOU to fix your problem.