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Bajsefar

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Basi pounce/wallgrip
« on: February 20, 2007, 02:49:42 pm »
Ok, so ive been thinking a bit, and decided to make YET ANOTHER BASI THREAD! (oh the horror)

So, my idea is to change the basilisk so that it is only able to stick to walls, not move while they do so, in return they get a pounce ability without the goon pounce damage.

That way you could make the basilisk a more ambushy kind of alien like i feel it should be.

I tried pounce combined with wallwalking on a server, (i think it was benmachine's) where there was a mod so EVERYTHING had the wallwalking ability.

And wallwalking combined with pounce worked really well imo.

I dont think it would unbalance the game, only make the basilisk more something unique and something for itself.
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E-Mxp

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Re: Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 03:27:44 pm »
Quote from: "Bajsefar"
Ok, so ive been thinking a bit, and decided to make YET ANOTHER BASI THREAD! (oh the horror)

LOL  :D

I really like the idea. I think it would make more people want too play the  :basilisk:. Usually it has to low health and it is to slow. So it isn't a threat to the humans. You only wast evo's with them.

It should be implemented in 1.2. It would make the :basilisk: a alien made for sneaking, so...
Make it stick to a  :human: face!! :D
Blow a poison cloud in his eyes!!  :D
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Wormi

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 05:11:12 pm »
Is that mod always there? I'd like to see a wallwalking goon :>
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 05:26:57 pm »
Wallwalking tyrants anyone?
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p0m

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Re: Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 08:37:19 pm »
Quote from: "E-Mxp"
Quote from: "Bajsefar"
Ok, so ive been thinking a bit, and decided to make YET ANOTHER BASI THREAD! (oh the horror)

LOL  :D

I really like the idea. I think it would make more people want too play the  :basilisk:. Usually it has to low health and it is to slow. So it isn't a threat to the humans. You only wast evo's with them.

It should be implemented in 1.2. It would make the :basilisk: a alien made for sneaking, so...
Make it stick to a  :human: face!! :D
Blow a poison cloud in his eyes!!  :D


I disagree, the Basilisk already is a well capable killer if you take the time to learn it. Don't take away wallwalk from the basi.. it's one of its best features.  :roll:
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Plague Bringer

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 09:08:09 pm »
it's the ONLY feature...the only thing a basi is good for is pwning Unnamed's and pissing the shit out of battlesuits when the goons come :D
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 09:23:00 pm »
Quote from: "Wormi"
Is that mod always there? I'd like to see a wallwalking goon :>


I broke it... then realised it was fatally flawed anyway. The thing is, bounding boxes never rotate, so while the graphic for your human/dragoon/tyrant walks up the wall, the bbox remains resolutely upright :/
It was a bit of fun, and very simple, but I haven't been able to make it work recently. People could wallwalk, but they didn't pitch properly, so they ended up staring at the wall they walked up, unable to see ahead. Feel free to try yourself, it was only a very basic modification.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 12:42:36 am »
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
it's the ONLY feature...the only thing a basi is good for is pwning anyone and killing the battlesuits before the goons come :D


Fixd.
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temple

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2007, 01:12:44 am »
After playing around, I feel basilisks are useful and have a purpose.  

But anything would be better than gas.  

Silly suggestion, imo.
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kozak6

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2007, 01:33:37 am »
Give the Adv Basi the ability to spit trapper projectiles instead of gas, and remove Adv Granger spit.
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gman19

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2007, 01:41:10 am »
Quote from: "kozak6"
Give the Adv Basi the ability to spit trapper projectiles instead of gas, and remove Adv Granger spit.


Objection! Basi farts are teh pwnage!!! Don't get rid of them!

(Joking, I don't care about basi farts; I like to camp over a doorway and slash 'umie headz from above)
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Re: Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2007, 02:04:14 am »
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I disagree, the Basilisk already is a well capable killer if you take the time to learn it. Don't take away wallwalk from the basi.. it's one of its best features.  :roll:
Capable against single humans, with weak weapons, that you manage to sneak up on.

Basi definitely needs upping.
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techhead

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2007, 02:13:49 am »
Or walk up behind humans and kill them that way.
Also great for chasing down people with no ammo, hahaha, you cant run away!!!
Then again, as said many many times, the Basi gas should be affected by Helmet, not Light-armor.
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p0m

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Re: Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 02:20:33 am »
Quote from: "Vector_Matt"

Basi definitely needs upping.

Quote from: "TJW 1.20 Changelist"

Basilisks have silent footsteps
Basilisk now has 2x healing aura (heals self too)
Advanced Basilisk now has 3x healing aura (heals self too)
Basilisk Gas now slows like a trapper


I don't honestly see what removing wallwalk from Basi and replacing with pounce will achieve other than pissing off dedicated basilisk players.
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temple

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Re: Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 03:56:45 am »
Quote from: "Vector_Matt"
Quote from: "p0m"
I disagree, the Basilisk already is a well capable killer if you take the time to learn it. Don't take away wallwalk from the basi.. it's one of its best features.  :roll:
Capable against single humans, with weak weapons, that you manage to sneak up on.

Basi definitely needs upping.

Basilisks are there to rape s1 or s2 humans.  If you have people trying to rush the alien base, basilisks ruin their plans.  My only gripe is that grab isn't obvious enough.  If grab was a swipe and you had to hold it (using 2ndary fire or whatever), basilisks would be easier to play and more used.  Throw in another alien and a human has major issue.  Basilisks shut down the whole strafing/'Running around like Jesse Owens' bullshit.  

But its cool as is.
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Bajsefar

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 01:17:03 pm »
To clear up in some things: I dont think this would change the basi very much for all you experienced basi players out there, it would merely give you an opportunity for some innoative way of movement/dodge dance etc.

For all the non-basi players out there, i think this would spiff the basilisk up and make it funnier to play. Atm, there is nothing very special about the basilisk except from the grip, but i think giving the basi the abilities i am proposing would make noobs try it more, and we would eventually get more good basi players.

And if the basilisk was more useful in general, maybe the tyrants/goons would stop stomping em (they always do that to me when i have a nice little human in my grip).

And to benmachine: your mod was awfully fun, for a short while.
I hope you dont feel betrayed that i am using your mod as an example for an idea or anything of the kind.
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kevlarman

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 06:04:34 pm »
Quote from: "Bajsefar"
And if the basilisk was more useful in general, maybe the tyrants/goons would stop stomping em (they always do that to me when i have a nice little human in my grip).
you mean like if they had a regen aura, and their gas slowed humans like creep, and alien regen sucked without them or an egg around?
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Seffylight

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Basi pounce/wallgrip
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 06:27:22 pm »
Play on tjw's server. Try out the alien team. See how well you play without a basi on support.

Basilisks will have a nice place in future incarnations of Tremulous.
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