Author Topic: Zonealarm (Read 9787 times)

Gui · « **on:** February 20, 2007, 09:21:15 pm »

brings me back to desktop, so any games or anything running in "fullscreen" (not just maximised) minimises whenever zonealarm is updating.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

kozak6 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:56:22 pm »

It does this deliberately in an effort to get you to upgrade.

The paid versions of Zone Alarm's products feature "Game mode" which is required to prevent this from happening.

Obnoxious, isn't it?

Caveman · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:51:38 pm »

When in Windows, buy what you use

Lava Croft · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2007, 03:07:14 pm »

Do not use a software firewall like Zonealarm, the only thing it does is make your Windows life even more annoying than it already is.

Gui · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2007, 04:17:21 pm »

Quote from: "kozak6"

It does this deliberately in an effort to get you to upgrade.

The paid versions of Zone Alarm's products feature "Game mode" which is required to prevent this from happening.

Obnoxious, isn't it?

hmmm

meh i will just use the windows firewall lol

no im not a microsoft advocate i know how to use linux its just that im sharing a comp atm.

Diggs · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2007, 04:20:16 pm »

Lava seems a bit mis-leading here. Even the free version of Zone Alarm continues to be one of the highest rated free firewalls for personal use in the industry by the industry professionals. (Just do a Google search for review and Zone Alarm.) Lava says don't use it, but then doesn't say what you should use. Most of us will not install hardware firewall/proxies on our home networks, so by all means continue to use Zone Alarm. I thought there was a way to disable automatic updates. I don't have this problem with ZA on my machines, but I run older versions of it that let me turn off auto-updating. ZA is also much more configurable than the standard Windows firewall. It also tests out to be much more secure. Don't take my word for it. Read the test ratings and reviews by the people that do security for a living.

Lobster · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:03:53 pm »

I strongly promote using the free firewall from Jetico if you don't want to spend cash on something commercial that may not work on par in comparison, I have it on my Windows XP MCE 2005 partition because it has outperformed anything I've ever tried before it. You WILL have to learn the interface and it will constantly pop up for the first day until it learns whats safe. Just set Tremulous as an 'Application Trusted Zone' and there should be no problems. Also remember to actually save changes with it.

Its claim to fame is being the first to stop all the tests used by firewallleaktester.com from getting through and currently holds gold position.
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/reward_stats.htm

Diggs · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:30:01 pm »

Nice Lobster. I will check it out.

I see they also rate NOD32 quite high on the list and that I use on several machines already.

Mikiupdown2 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:40:39 pm »

Thanks for the tip, Lobster. Very impressed with the program. Finally I can throw this junk away *throws Norton box out the window*.

Diggs · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:41:28 am »

Quote from: "Mikiupdown2"

Thanks for the tip, Lobster. Very impressed with the program. Finally I can throw this junk away *throws Norton box out the window*.

Although I prefer NOD32 for virus protection, this machine is still running Norton anti-virus. Norton combined with the free Zone Alarm defeated every single test/probe that was listed at www.firewallleaktester.com site except one. The only one it did not defeat was Ghost.

Hmmm.... Not too shabby. Better than expected.

@edit (See below) - I tend to agree with you Caveman that's why I was surprised to see the combination of the Norton and ZA did so well even if Norton is quite a piece of bloatware.

I then ran Ghost on an old server I have that had WinME, a very old copy of ZA and NOD32. Ghost was defeated. It never got out to post to it's web site. Again, I'm VERY surprised, but it may be that Ghost has no clue what to do with a WinME machine (lol) even though the program appeared to run.

Caveman · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:50:15 am »

Oh puhlease! Leave Norton out of the mix. That shit is worse than any virus / trojan.

Lobster · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2007, 01:50:20 am »

Glad to be of some service here.

I didn't know till after posting that a new beta version of Jetico is out and it looks like there will be support for Windows Vista planned.

Here are some more firewall statistics:
http://freesoftwarecomparison.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/free-firewall-comparison/
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/software/firewalls/review.html

Another security program I've liked is Win Patrol.
http://www.winpatrol.com/

Lava Croft · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:15:26 am »

Software firewalls like Zonealarm are widely known for their security holes, apart from the fact that the amount of protection they give you does not equal the amount of pure anoyance it generates.

Diggs · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2007, 12:48:03 pm »

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Software firewalls like Zonealarm are widely known for their security holes, apart from the fact that the amount of protection they give you does not equal the amount of pure anoyance it generates.

The more security, the more annoyances. To me, once ZA has been trained, it is very unobtrusive especially compared to the Barracuda hardware firewalls we use at work. What are you using for firewall and anti-virus Lava?

Lava Croft · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2007, 12:11:50 am »

Quote from: "Diggs"

What are you using for firewall and anti-virus Lava?

I don't need a firewall or anti-virus since I use Linux on my computer at home, and I don't need it on this WinXP box either, since I do not go to places that are bad for my computer. It's all about where you go and what you visit. So, in short, I do not use a software firewall other than the built-in WinXP one, and I do not use a anti-virus.

^Black · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2007, 12:38:26 pm »

I don't go to places that are bad for my computer, but I threw avast on here anyway.

If you need an antivirus...use CA.

Norton and Mcafee suck.

Gui · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:11:24 pm »

I know plenty of people who use just their router for protection and use no software firewall. Thats cos they are confident about what they install and are pretty sure that they wont install malware which will "dial home". No outbound protection neccesary.

Although without inbound protection arent there hackers on the net scanning for unprotected computers? im sure a hacker would love it if there was an unprotected windows system with a transparant modem connecting to broadband internet :evil:

Diggs · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:41:07 pm »

It appears there are more naive people out there than I thought. Although intentions are to go only to safe sites, that is not even possible on the net today. Mis-directed links, buried HTML scripting and ads linking, port scanning, etc. are just the beginning of security issues. You are fooling yourselves if you think you are safe. Have you guys done any system scanning to see if there are any trojans, viruses or spyware on your computer now?

I would imagine your internet usage is very limited. I do allot of purchasing on-line using credit cards. I pay bills and credit cards on-line. I do my taxes and manage stocks and investments on-line. Security is a major concern for me. I couldn't image not having a basic security layer above Windows in place.

I can understand not worrying too much about your Linux computer. I don't either. WinXP is a different matter.

One good thing for me is that there are those like you out there which are the easy targets.

@Black -
Arguably, probably the best anti-virus out today is NOD32. Fast, lean and mean....

http://www.eset.com/

Diggs

Warrior · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2007, 06:59:38 am »

I know firewalls for Linux exists.
Remember:
1. Linux is not uncrashable.
2. Linux has security issues as ANY other software ever made by humans.
3. Conclusion: there is no totally secure OS.

::ThePredator · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:33:44 pm »

Haha I just use IP chains and tables, kick any firewalls ass.

Diggs · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2007, 02:10:17 am »

Quote from: "::ThePredator"

Haha I just use IP chains and tables, kick any firewalls ass.

Haha - And I dare say you need to get a life. If all the hassel and maintenance of IP chains and tables are worth it for you then great, but I'm sure most of us have better things to do. A click or two to have a solid firewall in place sure beats the hassels of chains and tables.

tomek-k · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2007, 03:10:19 pm »

there are many GUI configurators for iptables - some for begginers, some for advanced users.

kmyfirewall, firestarter, shorewall, etc (don't remember other)

Diggs · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2007, 03:36:47 pm »

Yes, I jumped the gun with my comments, but maintaining IP chains and tables for home use really seems to be over the top compared to a firewall. But, if that is the way Predator wants to do his security, then so be it. At least he has security which is more than I can say for other trusting individuals.

websecure · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2007, 04:09:19 pm »

Hi

About Norton Personal Firewall -2006.
After installing this on a home IBM laptop the system would freeze after booting.

Besides, I did a portscan on the Norton Firewall and it did not alert
Still frozen on the go back screen. Goodby Norton.

I'm connected to internet through a Netcomm NB5Plus4 ADSL2+ router.
It does the job!.

Some useful resources (freeware and reviews):

http://www.sensiveguard.com/
http://www.r-tt.com/
http://www.all-internet-security.com/top_10_firewall_software.html

I hope this helps.

Jennifer

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