Luci Charge needs change

[Ceaser342]

The luci right now is a spammers dream.  They don't have to charge it up much and they still do plenty of damage.

I think luci charge needs to longer and a large damage nerf if not fully charged.  Right now they can spam medium charged shots rather fast and still do lots of damage.

[tuple]

and a lucy shot is SLOOOOOOWWW so while the damage is high, they are easy to dodge.  You aren't attacking lucy's as a dretch are you?

[Paradox]

I do think the luci needs a change, albeit a different kind. Anyone remember the Xbox classic, MechAssult? Well, for the Mechs with dumbfire missles, the little missile icon would have a pie graph that showed how charged they were. Something like this would be good for trem, or the old (O) system, with the reticle in the middle, and 2 charging bars on the sides.

[Dracone]

Yeah, it does get outta hand sometimes. I don't use humies much or the lucifer anyhow, but I know you can get 150 health shots so quick it's not even funny.

And Para, I like the O thing with the notches on the side for charging power, seen that in only a couple games though.

Any of you who have played Unreal 2 would know about the Dispersion Pistol.

It's a weak weapon but a good example. You have 8 ammo, but it recharges. The primary fire is the luci's secondary, and the secondary is the luci's primary. It has 8 ammo, but it recharges. Lemme give an example:

It's got all 8 ammo. As you're charging, you see the ammo count go down.
Say you release it after it's charged up 8 of that ammo. You get a buzzing noise, similar to the luci's beep, only you can keep it held in forever. You get that much power in your shot, full power. Then, you must wait for it to recharge back to 8 to get another full shot OR you can hold it down again when it says there's 0 ammo left and it will take longer because the recharge rate isn't as fast as the secondary fire's charge rate.

So basically, a luci that you can charge up, but have to wait to be able to fire off a follow up shot of that or more power. So you can launch a 250 damage shot at normal charge rate, but if you wanted to fire another 250 shot right away, you'd have to wait 1.5 times or 2 times as long to charge it that much.

I'm not sure how well that can be understood, I can't think of a better explanation than that.

[n00b pl0x]

i dont think theres anything wrong with it tbh. other than people who sit at doorways and never stop shooting. THAT is luci spam. firing it before it beeps is just a feature.

[Paradox]

It could be that the primary charge bar is on the left, and as you charge, it goes up, and if it gets 2 bars into red, it booms!
2ndary could be that with each 2ndary shot fired, the 2ndary bar goes up. 2 bars into red and BOOM!

I got the idea for the (o) from MechAssult also, the PPC.

[Odin]

Like I said before, the Lucifer Cannon should have a charge and attack just like the Power Beam from Metroid. Click once and it fires a fast moving projectile that does low damage. After you fire once, you can hold the mouse button and it will charge(in fact, make the lcannon model do a "draw in energy" visual effect as it charges, for fun), and fire the charged blast as normal.

[Lava Croft]

Isn't just about every ranged weapon a spammer's dream? Don't people spam with Rifles, Lasguns, Chainguns, Pulse Rifles and Flamers too? Some even spam the Blaster :oops:

[Paradox]

One thing that i also think should be added is g_shotdecay. What this is is that after firing, say 150 game units, your shots begin to decay with weapons not known for sniping (all apart from massdriver). They decay by the value of g_shotdecay per every 5 gu. What i mean by decay is do less damage, become less accurate, and so on.

[Ceaser342]

Not all range weapons are spam material.   MD you need AIM.  Chain its useless past like 10 feet, shotgun is same deal, las yes but not much punch for bigger aliens.  Pulse just dodge the stream.

The reason I post this is in Narrow halls like on ATCS I can't even approach the luci as a tyrant when he spams like this.  I think there needs to be some limit on it.

[temple]

Not all range weapons are spam material.   MD you need AIM.  Chain its useless past like 10 feet, shotgun is same deal, las yes but not much punch for bigger aliens.  Pulse just dodge the stream.

The reason I post this is in Narrow halls like on ATCS I can't even approach the luci as a tyrant when he spams like this.  I think there needs to be some limit on it.

Those halls are wider than you think.

[Ceaser342]

Not for a rant with a luci storm coming at him >.>

[Coca-Cola]

I do think the luci needs a change, albeit a different kind. Anyone remember the Xbox classic, MechAssult? Well, for the Mechs with dumbfire missles, the little missile icon would have a pie graph that showed how charged they were. Something like this would be good for trem, or the old (O) system, with the reticle in the middle, and 2 charging bars on the sides.

OMG!!! I have a new project for my self. ^.^

ps, I know what your talking about, my brother play mech assault.

[Paradox]

Ahh mechassult, the fun game of xboxes past.

Has your brother beaten it? If not, here is one word of spoiler, Ragnarok.

[Coca-Cola]

Ahh mechassult, the fun game of xboxes past.

Has your brother beaten it? If not, here is one word of spoiler, Ragnarok.

Yea, he's beaten in. Whats your favorite mech? Mine's the bowman.

[Paradox]

Ragnarok.

[Ceaser342]

Atlas with all the laser power ups

[Odin]

we need a blaster rifle like from StAr WaRs!1

[Ceaser342]

Zomg!!! X-WING!  U CAN FLY AROUND AND EVERY1 IS LiKE OmG H4x!!!

[Odin]

Actually firing fast-moving lasers would be fun against the aliens .