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Tremulous - How to get more kills as human.

Started by NiTRoX, March 23, 2007, 05:15:21 PM

NiTRoX

The Tremulous life-saving tips (for humans)

In this "manual" will teach you how to get faster and better kills as human.
(May contain mistakes are mis-knowledges)

Humans

Using a Shotgun:

Try getting closer to your enemy for more damage.

Reason:

If you shoot from a far distant you won't hit where you want since the bullets spread out. Even if they heat the damage won't be great/sufficient to kill.

Useful against: Dretches and Dragoons (normal ones)

Using a pain saw:

Before using a pain saw you need good armour because if you are going to attack with it you will need to fight face to face against your enemy.

Reason:

The more closer to the enemy you get = the more chance he will have to hit you.

Useful against: Dragoons and Buildings (<- very useful)

Using a lasgun:

Use the las gun the same as you use the rifle, preferably with a battery pack.

Reason:

The battery pack will increase your ammo.

Useful against: Dretches and Marauders.

Using a mass driver:

The mass driver is powerful but it is a bit tricky. Try using it with a helmet, light armour and battery pack. Try to stay in spacious areas. Try avoiding using the zoom feature if you are fighting against an enemy which is near.

Reason:
The mass driver is a bit slower than other weapons and it takes long before it reloads (that's why you need to use a battery pack and be in a spacious area – so you can dodge hits while reloading/running). Avoiding the zoom feature against near enemies will give you a greater chance of hitting.

Useful against: Dretches, Dragoons and Marauders.

Using a chaingun:

The chaingun is also powerful with rapid fire. If you're not wearing a battle suite crouch so you get a better aim. This weapon is good for face to face fighting.

Reason:

When not wearing a battle suite the chaingun won't let you get a firm, steady aim.

Useful against: Dragoons and Tyrants.

Using a flamethrower:

A bit difficult to use. To avoid this move sideways or backwards while using it. This weapon is pretty much useless against far enemies.

Reason:
When you use this weapon you have a great chance to roast yourself

Use against: Dretches, Dragoons and Tyrants.

Do not use against: Marauders and Basilisks

Using a Pulse Rifle:

Wear a battery pack for more ammo. Do not aim directly at the opponent but a little ahead since this weapon is not insta-hit (hits instantly). Or try going near your enemies to get a better hit chance.

Reason:

Pulse rifle doesn't hit were you aim unless your stationary (not moving) and aiming at a stationary enemy.

Useful against: Dragoons and Tyrants.

Using a Lucifer cannon:

Use is exactly as Pulse rifle

Reason:

Exactly as pulse rifle

Useful against: Dretches (will be a little bit difficult for beginners, Dragoons (one hit kill) and Tyrants (lot of damage)


Use "Y" as where you should aim with Lucifer Cannons and Pulse Rifles.

Hope this info was useful.

NiTRoX © 2007

player1

Useful reminders. Now prepare for mass flame-posting, as we return you to your regular programming.

rdizzle

AIM.

that said most of your tips are valid, particularly the shotty tip.

I'll add don't run from dretches run towards them with any weapon... and that the easiest way to dodge dretches is to jump towards them (over them, or a little to the side).

And the luci should also be used like the shotty.  Run towards your enemy while charging it up to the beep.  Nothing says pwnd like a fully charged lucy in the face of a pouncing goon.

n00b pl0x

[quote="NiTRoX]
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Using a pain saw:
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Useful against: Dragoons
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*cough*
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David

Tip #1:
Don't shoot team mates.

Tip #2:
Get a pain saw and sodomize a tyrant while it attacks the turrets.
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NiTRoX

@n00b pl0x : pain saws can be very effective against normal goons. You just need a battlesuite and a painsaw.

@David: 1)forgot to say about tk since i play on ++BG++ but yes thats a very useful tip.

2) You can but I don't think he will let you pain saw it.

David

Quote from: NiTRoX2) You can but I don't think he will let you pain saw it.

If you wait until they start swiping the turrets and attack from behind so they don't see you ever, they normally don't notice until its to late.  It doesn't take long :)
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I'm disappointed that people's past actions have forced me to state what should be obvious.
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Henners

Are these instructions for a 5 year old or perhaps a blind person? They are all blindingly obvious common sense.

Oh and dont use a lasgun like a rifle. A rifle should be used in bursts to ensure your ammo doesnt run out mid dretch fight as you spray that evil wall full of bullets. A lasgun can be used constantly since clips are not a consideration. See now thats a useful tactic hint. Your long post really was a bit of a waste of effort.

And dear god you do NOT use the lucy as you do a pulse rifle.
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NiTRoX

@Henners -

They are common sense but they may be useful for newcomers.

[Lasgun] I wasn't talking about the ammo..I was talking about how to use it..how to aim with it.

[Luci] Since I was talking about moving enemies yes you do use it as a pulse ( Either get a near your enemy to hit or aim a bit ahead if enemy is not near).

Mispeled

The best way to rack up S2 kills to S3 fast is to get a few other guys on your team to get flamers and run around willy-nilly and make dretches panic. Especially if FF is on. :)

holyknight

Quote from: MispeledThe best way to rack up S2 kills to S3 fast is to get a few other guys on your team to get flamers and run around willy-nilly and make dretches panic. Especially if FF is on. :)
flame throwers ftl

SithLord

Shottys are great against dretches and maybe basilisks but besides that no :roll:
quot;Man is the only creature to spend all of its time pumping sewage into the sea and then swimming in it!"
Viktrua

NiTRoX

Shotties are good against goons,atleast 4 me.

polish farmer boy


holyknight

Quote from: SithLordShottys are great against dretches and maybe basilisks but besides that no :roll:
not really
people can own most any aliens with shotguns

people killed me as mara with shotgun
i killed goons a lot with shotgun
i killed dretches with shotgun
i killed basilisks with shotgun
not sure about tyrants, but it is possible

janev

Quote from: SithLordShottys are great against dretches and maybe basilisks but besides that no :roll:
mm actually the shotty is one of the better close quarters weapons in the game(best in s1 and s2) depending on your personal preference. You can drop a tyrant in a clip.... goon in 4 hits adv goon in 5 hits.... marauder 3 hits...
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optear

always go for the eggs and the om
kills are useless
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n00b pl0x

Hi kids, today im going to teach you about the fLAMER. Yes, that is how the self proclaimed l33ts spell it, because...well idk why. BUT it is a nice lil weapon against dretch and basis, because it drops them in so few hits they dont have time to run away. This is why its good on hugeass noob servers like D*S. just run around in circles holding down left mouse and youll have kills in no time.

Big no no's:
1. dont sprint at your own fire (Uh dur.)
2. dont hit walls floors and/or ceilings unless you like your marine extra crispy
3. Keep backing up so as not to get grilled from them jumping at you and deflecting your flames back at you...let them jump into your flames...theyll do it too, i used this technique in part to get my highest killcount ever :D
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::ThePredator

The lasgun is a severly underestimated weapon, get one and take to the skies and you will find out just how powerful it truly is.

Glunnator

Quote from: ::ThePredatorand take to the skies
JETTARD!  :evil:

And yes, it IS severely underestimated :P

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Dracone

You put for how to use Luci: "Exactly as pulse rifle."

Then as a reason you put: "Exactly as pulse rifle."

At least you didn't put that it was useful AGAINST pulse rifles.
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Stof

Quote from: n00b pl0xHi kids, today im going to teach you about the fLAMER. Yes, that is how the self proclaimed l33ts spell it, because...well idk why. BUT it is a nice lil weapon against dretch and basis, because it drops them in so few hits they dont have time to run away. This is why its good on hugeass noob servers like D*S. just run around in circles holding down left mouse and youll have kills in no time.

Big no no's:
1. dont sprint at your own fire (Uh dur.)
2. dont hit walls floors and/or ceilings unless you like your marine extra crispy
3. Keep backing up so as not to get grilled from them jumping at you and deflecting your flames back at you...let them jump into your flames...theyll do it too, i used this technique in part to get my highest killcount ever :D
Run forward with the flamer when attacking an alien, and then back out imediatly. Repeat as needed. Why? Because the flamer projectile shares some of it's starting speed from the player speed. By making small dashes forward and firing at the same time, you get more range than normal.

But point 1 still holds. if you make instead of a small dash forward a long dash forward, you'll get burned.
urphy's rules of combat
8 ) Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy someone else to shoot at.
18 ) Make it too tough for the enemy to get in and you can't get out.

SithLord

DUH!!!! BTW, Shotty's are only good against small aliens! The other ones will kill u before u empty the clip! :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
quot;Man is the only creature to spend all of its time pumping sewage into the sea and then swimming in it!"
Viktrua

Mantra

Wow you're an idiot if you think shotguns suck.
Go tell that to inse, the guy who single handelly takes down tyrants with light armor and helmet.
I heared he took down yahoo's rant to less then a 100 hp last time.

I can take down almost anything with a shotgun 1v1, even goons at s1.

Las gun is useful against anything smaller then a goon, preferably. It can take dretches down rapidly, lisk have  real hard time to grab you(Since there is no reload that they can abuse) and maras can have a hard time dodging you since you continually fire at them. Most goons though usually abuse the low damage it does and just jump at you and chomp.
Because of the lack of a reload, its a great chasing weapon, so chase with it during s3.

Mass driver is really useful against dretches, and possibly lisk, if you don't let it get near you. It could be useful, if you got good aim, against maras, but usually they tend to get close to you pretty rapidly and are pretty hard to hit in themselves.

Unless your name is Lestrange, don't come near a chaingun pre-s2. Its much too easy for a dretch just to headshot you and you losing 400, possibly 470 under a sec.

This is pretty much it for s1 really.

What ever weapon you use:
MOVE, don't just stand there dumb struck shooting the alien like an idiot, it as been prooven tons of time over in a variety of games. Speed beats aim. Though it normally shouldn't, it does, and your best bet is to get as close as possible to maximum speed and hit %

n00b pl0x

Quote from: Stof
Quote from: n00b pl0xHi kids, today im going to teach you about the fLAMER. Yes, that is how the self proclaimed l33ts spell it, because...well idk why. BUT it is a nice lil weapon against dretch and basis, because it drops them in so few hits they dont have time to run away. This is why its good on hugeass noob servers like D*S. just run around in circles holding down left mouse and youll have kills in no time.

Big no no's:
1. dont sprint at your own fire (Uh dur.)
2. dont hit walls floors and/or ceilings unless you like your marine extra crispy
3. Keep backing up so as not to get grilled from them jumping at you and deflecting your flames back at you...let them jump into your flames...theyll do it too, i used this technique in part to get my highest killcount ever :D
Run forward with the flamer when attacking an alien, and then back out imediatly. Repeat as needed. Why? Because the flamer projectile shares some of it's starting speed from the player speed. By making small dashes forward and firing at the same time, you get more range than normal.

But point 1 still holds. if you make instead of a small dash forward a long dash forward, you'll get burned.

ah good point. i always wondered why people said run at stuff...i always got more burns that way
will sort out my sig, or I will get banned.

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Plague Bringer

Quote from: n00b pl0x
Quote from: Stof
Quote from: n00b pl0xHi kids, today im going to teach you about the fLAMER. Yes, that is how the self proclaimed l33ts spell it, because...well idk why. BUT it is a nice lil weapon against dretch and basis, because it drops them in so few hits they dont have time to run away. This is why its good on hugeass noob servers like D*S. just run around in circles holding down left mouse and youll have kills in no time.

Big no no's:
1. dont sprint at your own fire (Uh dur.)
2. dont hit walls floors and/or ceilings unless you like your marine extra crispy
3. Keep backing up so as not to get grilled from them jumping at you and deflecting your flames back at you...let them jump into your flames...theyll do it too, i used this technique in part to get my highest killcount ever :D
Run forward with the flamer when attacking an alien, and then back out imediatly. Repeat as needed. Why? Because the flamer projectile shares some of it's starting speed from the player speed. By making small dashes forward and firing at the same time, you get more range than normal.

But point 1 still holds. if you make instead of a small dash forward a long dash forward, you'll get burned.

ah good point. i always wondered why people said run at stuff...i always got more burns that way

yeah...he got dropped on his head >_>
U R A Q T

holyknight

Quote from: Plague Bringer
Quote from: n00b pl0x
Quote from: Stof
Quote from: n00b pl0xHi kids, today im going to teach you about the fLAMER. Yes, that is how the self proclaimed l33ts spell it, because...well idk why. BUT it is a nice lil weapon against dretch and basis, because it drops them in so few hits they dont have time to run away. This is why its good on hugeass noob servers like D*S. just run around in circles holding down left mouse and youll have kills in no time.

Big no no's:
1. dont sprint at your own fire (Uh dur.)
2. dont hit walls floors and/or ceilings unless you like your marine extra crispy
3. Keep backing up so as not to get grilled from them jumping at you and deflecting your flames back at you...let them jump into your flames...theyll do it too, i used this technique in part to get my highest killcount ever :D
Run forward with the flamer when attacking an alien, and then back out imediatly. Repeat as needed. Why? Because the flamer projectile shares some of it's starting speed from the player speed. By making small dashes forward and firing at the same time, you get more range than normal.

But point 1 still holds. if you make instead of a small dash forward a long dash forward, you'll get burned.

ah good point. i always wondered why people said run at stuff...i always got more burns that way

yeah...he got dropped on his head >_>
indeed cause he is n00b!

Computer[SU]

Buying a batt pack with lasgun is a waste of 100 creds.

First, the batt pack loses some of its value with las gun because it doesn't actually increase the size of your clip - i.e. allow you to reload less, but just increases the overall shot count.  And if you regularly use 250 las shots before dying...well...you must be standing in an isolated area staring at the wall with the trigger down.

250 shots is plenty.  Never buy a batt pack s1.

Mantra

Actually, it depends on the player.
Often I will buy a las gun and run to the front door of alien base, and just pick out dretches that come out. Wether or not oyu hold the trigger for nothing or not, you will soon find yourself out of ammo after 5-10 kills, and running back to base with a bunch of dretches glued to your ass is pretty annoying. But its pretty true battery pack at s1 is useless for most people.

Battery pack is only really useful for pulse, mass driver and lucy(Especially lucy)