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« on: March 28, 2007, 12:31:17 am »
So, im curious, in my opinion SST has been greatly improved within the last month or so, with the Council being given more power and being implimented. Although it isnt in full power, it's in the majority.

So, whatcha think? Have we improved (adminship wise)? And what would you do differently?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 12:38:32 am »
i used to get 30 ping there. now i get 130 ping. discourages me even moe from going there (not that i did much anyway). however, it has admins constantly on, which is good i guess.

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 12:47:56 am »
|SST| is great, admins there rock. GOOD JOB!

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 05:44:30 am »
Well, where I am currently, I get 15 ping because I am in Huntington Beach, CA. But where I live, I get around 50-70 pending on spam and other players. Yesh SST has improved.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 06:40:59 am »
my ping dropped from about 90 average to 40 average and 30 without a whole bunch of 200 pingers

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2007, 01:00:13 pm »
SST teaches newbs how not to play.  By doing so it causes problems for other servers.  Until someone comes up with a solution for this, I will always be voting no.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2007, 03:59:58 pm »
No. you didn't improve. You always suck more every day.

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2007, 04:58:13 pm »
Quote from: "David"
SST teaches newbs how not to play.


may i ask how?

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2007, 05:00:17 pm »
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Quote from: "David"
SST teaches newbs how not to play.


may i ask how?


something about the 260 bps i'm assuming?
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2007, 05:03:10 pm »
People join SST because it has a load of 0x01's in front of its name.
They then learn the basics with way too many players, way too many BPs and cheating admins and people who think its normal the to TK for no reason and spam stupid binds.  They then go to other servers and build egg farms and spam binds and TK for no reason, and wonder why people don't like them.  They get pissed when someone kicks them for avoiding the mute put on them due to chat spam, and start deconing to get revenge.
I'm sure that most SST players don't become deconers, but it sure takes them longer to become competent players, and I'm sure a fair few give up.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 05:05:14 pm »
I've been playing on |SST| since the start, and to date I have never deconned anything (except my friend's homework, but that doesn't count.)
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2007, 06:32:38 pm »
I'm still banned because I uber-naded the base 30 seconds before the clock ran out.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2007, 06:34:01 pm »
You get banned for that shit? I'm glad that fucktard tk'd the arm before 15 seconds to game end hit.
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OK, u asked...
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2007, 06:40:50 pm »
I didn't vote, for the same reason I never fill out customer "how we doin'?" surveys. It changes from day-to-day. SST is a server I play at, when I want to find everybody, or play in a huge game, and get crazy screenshots. I get better ping there now, you're introducing some map rotation variety, even the admins have stopped the really rampant abuses most of the time. I learned a lot of bad stuff there, but I already know about misbehavin', so it hasn't changed me (this ain't my first rodeo). When admins painsaw tk me for standing next to them at an armoury, I very politely and respectfully shoot them in the face with a shotgun while they are standing on the medistation, take my slap and mute, and play on. "OOps sry... I wuz cleaning it & it went off... MY bad." (cough*Para*cough) Yes, you are powerful and feared. The real question is, Do I have a server capable of handling so many players? If I did, could I admin it fulltime? Would I be able to keep it from d/evolving into the Wild West? Is it fun to play with 45 people on, even when most of the action is a massive clusterfarg or campfest? Is there rampant admin abuse and n00b mistreatment at smaller and also clan-oriented servers? (Highrise 18, anyone? "Humans sux! Someone is in jail! Mwahahahahaha!") I consider SST a fun place to play if you don't mind these sorts of things, and I think many players know who the cool people are, who the regulars are, who the abusers, deconners and TKers are, and manage to try and play the game otherwise. Sure it sucks when people don't. But sometimes, when there are only a few dozen people on, and players actually settle into the game, SST can actually be worth a few hours time well spent.

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even when they act like jerks
and hopes honesty won't earn him a lifeban

Oh, and the answers to the above questions are:
No, No, Probably Not, Sometimes, and You Betcha!

I don't decon, except as a team effort, while communicating with teamchat
I'll help build, and if my efforts are not needed, I'll defend or attack
I don't intentionally TK, but you may catch a round or a slash and so might I
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If people are weirdly abusive, I'll play on, or leave, as the mood takes me (on any server, not just the big pubservers)

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2007, 06:48:44 pm »
Really awesome ways to abuse:

Lock both teams while specvote is disabled, put everyone spec and disconnect

Do !layout load every time the other team destroys something of yours

Spam the chat knowing that you won't be muted

Set everyone at max admin level and let the chaos begin

Bind WASD keys to slap random numbers (/bind a +moveleft;slap 3;slap 4)

Mute EVERYONE

Shoot teammates intentionally and then apologize
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2007, 06:50:38 pm »
Quote from: "Superpie"


Bind WASD keys to slap random numbers (/bind a +moveleft;slap 3;slap 4)



LOL! One noob binded "s" to say something really retarted before antiflood was implemented on many servers!
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2007, 07:04:18 pm »
Quote from: "Superpie"
Shoot teammates intentionally and then apologize


You slay me. But then u say "sry" & I can't hate u 4 it. :P

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2007, 08:06:22 pm »
haven't played there a lot recently TBO.  I did play a couple rounds and inflicted massive TKs, I asked and found out the dretch TK was on.  I can deal with FF though I don't like it, but dretch TK?  No point.  As a dretch in S3 you can't even get to the human base without being TKd.  I'm sure I'll be told by someone how ,just like FF, it encourages skill (which it doesn't).  Small teams that MUST work together and efficiently encourage skill, not server settings or size.  I'm sure I'd also be told how a skilled dretch never gets TKd by people who will say to stick to the walls.  Thats a line of crap.  You can get tk'd on the walls not to mention many ceilings.

I think Paradox is bored with tremulous.  On the few occasions I've joined and spectated for a short time, I see the 20 grenades go flying and realize why I definitely don't join when para is on.  No point really.

Lots less berating/abusing/bragging with Shak gone, that has frankly improved the environment overall.  Being told the best way to play by a mediocre, power hungry hack gets real old real quick.  People who follow the letter of the law but not it's spirit annoy me to no end.

Part of Davids point is that large servers just don't encourage skill the way a smaller server does, because you are not as aware of how directly responsible your actions are for how your team has lost.  Most people on the forums are, but new players certainly aren't.

SST does seem to have improved though.  My complaints notwithstanding, it is definitely a better "large" server than the others, overall.  The admins are more responsive (as they always have been) and don't seem to go overboard like they used to.

It's only fun when near full though, otherwise you are just fighting a base.

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 05:50:32 am »
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is your in game name playername or is it something else? if it is something else can you post it or put it in your sig so everyone knows? its helpful if someon wants to play with you in game

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 06:37:55 am »
I really appreciate the constructive critism that you guys have given. I will do me best to better serve you guys, thanks for taking the time to respond. It really excites me that a good chunk of you feel that we have improved, but it still dissapoints me that even so much as one of you thinks we havnt, and because of this I will work even harder.

Ill be passing this post along to the Council members to look upon and reflect, at which time they can then use it to better improve SST. Yet again, thanks.
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 06:49:55 am »
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haven't played there a lot recently TBO.  I did play a couple rounds and inflicted massive TKs, I asked and found out the dretch TK was on.  I can deal with FF though I don't like it, but dretch TK?  No point.  As a dretch in S3 you can't even get to the human base without being TKd.  I'm sure I'll be told by someone how ,just like FF, it encourages skill (which it doesn't).  Small teams that MUST work together and efficiently encourage skill, not server settings or size.  I'm sure I'd also be told how a skilled dretch never gets TKd by people who will say to stick to the walls.  Thats a line of crap.  You can get tk'd on the walls not to mention many ceilings.

I think Paradox is bored with tremulous.  On the few occasions I've joined and spectated for a short time, I see the 20 grenades go flying and realize why I definitely don't join when para is on.  No point really.

Lots less berating/abusing/bragging with Shak gone, that has frankly improved the environment overall.  Being told the best way to play by a mediocre, power hungry hack gets real old real quick.  People who follow the letter of the law but not it's spirit annoy me to no end.

Part of Davids point is that large servers just don't encourage skill the way a smaller server does, because you are not as aware of how directly responsible your actions are for how your team has lost.  Most people on the forums are, but new players certainly aren't.

SST does seem to have improved though.  My complaints notwithstanding, it is definitely a better "large" server than the others, overall.  The admins are more responsive (as they always have been) and don't seem to go overboard like they used to.

It's only fun when near full though, otherwise you are just fighting a base.


This sums up my thoughts pretty much to a T.
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 09:32:56 am »
don't know, first time I was there I had a ping of 130, and I got banned for racism...

anyway, I'll need the ip of sst before I can join it to see if it has improved -.-' something with my server list fucking up
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 06:53:45 pm »
Seems that you can get banned for anything in SST.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 07:36:01 pm »
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
|SST| is great, admins there rock. GOOD JOB!

(BTW, hi meow?)

rofl.
SST loses because they have 52 slots. Thanks.

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 09:20:48 pm »
Well, it had to happen. Best Trem game I've ever played in. A 4v4 on Karith, both teams move: Aliens to the Lift Room near the Door Vent, Humans to the Brown Staircase Room (the small dark one, between the bases). It was actual Tremulous teamplay: communicating the enemy team's actions and movements, sacrificing lives or minutes to keep them busy, working to build, working to attack, to block, to defend, boxing them in, covering alternate entrances to their base, being the correct loadout to complement teammates, making forays together, them attacking us as much as us attacking them, feisty defenders, tricky buiders, players who knew the map and where they should be on it and when, coordinated destruction rushes, rants and goons alternating their attacks to keep lanes clear, little aliens actually wallwalking. It had it all. I think it lasted around half an hour, maybe forty-five minutes. Both teams taking more time to strategize and talk tactics than spam, killwhore or talk smack. Just good, hard, Tremulous. It was on SST, last night, around 12:49 PDT. Hard to believe. Pub server. Last 8 dudes still on. Last round of the night. Everyone on point, just playing the game, no bs, having fun. And it happened at SST. So, OK, at the right time of day, with the right people, any server can be awesome. It what keeps me coming back.    :roll:  :-?  :wink:  :D

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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2007, 09:36:36 pm »
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Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
|SST| is great, admins there rock. GOOD JOB!

(BTW, hi meow?)

rofl.
SST loses because they have 52 slots. Thanks.


What's the problem with 52 slots, mr.negative?
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2007, 01:17:23 am »
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Quote from: "Smokey"
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
|SST| is great, admins there rock. GOOD JOB!

(BTW, hi meow?)

rofl.
SST loses because they have 52 slots. Thanks.


What's the problem with 52 slots, mr.negative?

Way too many, and they're all filled by newbies.

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2007, 01:43:43 am »
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Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
What's the problem with 52 slots, mr.negative?

Way too many, and they're all filled by newbies.


For once I agree with you.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2007, 07:09:56 am »
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I'm still banned because I uber-naded the base 30 seconds before the clock ran out.


Anyone in D*S deserves that...


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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2007, 07:51:21 am »
On SST we try to nade last 10 seconds, that way when the scoreboard comes up after TL hits, people are taking screenshots and talking and such and their whole screen says
:armoury: DESTROYED by TinMan
:turret: DESTROYED by TinMan
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:turret: DESTROYED by TinMan
:reactor: DESTROYED by TinMan
:turret: DESTROYED by TinMan
:human: killed by TEAMMATE TinMan
:medstat: DESTROYED by TinMan
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