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« on: April 16, 2007, 02:40:56 am »
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=earth+warming&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
What do u think? Just a few links, of course i did.. read them.
This theme wasn't so active here also.  I just want to know what peoples think about it  :wink:

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 02:52:46 am »
i didnt read your links but i dont believe in global warming

if we had an ice age without man 'breaking the ecosystem' we can have a fireage without man 'breaking the ecosystem.'
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 03:21:25 am »
/!\ GLOBAL WARNING /!\

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 03:29:22 am »
Global warming is total BS. Period.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 03:41:57 am »
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2007, 04:21:02 am »
Has been obvious for a LOOOONG time. Check f.ex El Nino and when it has started to act crazy.. And water rising... etc etc etc...

And one thing is weird. USA gets the blasts because of global warming more often than any other country but still isn't really going to do anything about it....

And now btw, Americans (new study)  says that forests in Northern Countries increases (?) global warming, even though they doesn't recognize the problem in wider scale... Figure...
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 04:35:50 am »
Yeah. Apparently the forests have been found to absorb heat instead of allowing the heat to be reflected by the snow on the ground. Some people in Africa complained that they don't produce as much CO2 as the western countries, but they are getting the droughts and whatnots instead because of global warming. Famine is going to take more toll than before. Anthropogenic or not global warming is, it's still a problem that has to be recognised and dealt with. It's not something you can deny anymore with all the evidences we have today.

On another note, I swear I noticed the world becoming warmer 7 years ago. Taking a stroll in the midday was comfortable and the sunlight wasn't something we tried to get away from (my permanent home is in SE Asia, it can get quite sunny there although we also get heavy rain all year around). Nowadays people just stay in the building trying not to get heat stroke/migraine.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 05:12:47 am »
You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 05:54:16 am »
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You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.


so you are advocating the destruction of the only known sentient life in the universe to further life? and even if not our destruction but the destruction of a form of life that you wont find anywhere else, this galaxy is Tailor Made for supporting life.

and for those who think global warming is just a scary story told by tree-huging republicans and hippies think again. its like the ozone layer scare in the 80's the atmosphere (in general) is getting thicker (instead of thinner) and trapping more and more heat inside, the main scare of this is the fact that evolution isn't going to kick in automatically, it will take decades for life to accomodate the increased sea level caused by the melting of the polar caps and the increase in temperature that will become of it.

Edit: oh and paradox, its true that there have been ice ages before and the like, but not on a scale of what's happening now. scientists have been able to find out what life was like in the prehistoric times by looking at what they find in ice in the arctic regions, its true that there have been times when the level of CO2 (carbon dioxide) has gotten high which has corresponded with an increase in global temperature and then an ice age and a decrease in CO2. the peak level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was 300 parts per million, which was followed by a sharp decrease in both temperature and carbon dioxide level. The level of carbon dioxide NOW is 350 parts per million, and if nothing is done in 45 years it will be 600 parts per million.

if you dont believe me watch or read al gore's book or movie "an inconvienient truth". and he provides proof for every single one of his claims, which is more than the people against global warming can
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 08:17:55 am »
Global Whining

The only thing that they are trying to accomplish is to inject the minds of ordinary people full of fear, since fear is the driving factor for consumption. Wether it be Muslims, Africanized bees or global warming, as long as you are scared you will consume. While the world may certainly be heating up, it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Even if the Human race is solely responsible for the global warming, the chances of the Human race being able to stop it are slim.

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2007, 08:22:23 am »
Im careful, but not fanatic about my carbon and waste, cos it just costs me in the end. However over the last 5 years my winters have been getting less and less, and in the last two years it dissappeared altogether to be replaced by strong sunlight.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 08:33:38 am »
lava, i disagree

exactly what is global warming trying to get you to buy, a personal sunroof? carbon dioxide-b-gone spray? your own planet?

Nothing out of the ordinary?
Nothign can be done?

read al gore's book, the answer to these questions is inside.

but it does bring to light an issue about global warming, not enough people can be bothered to do something about it. it matters to everyone and its not something thats solved by large actions, but by numerous small ones.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 12:28:53 pm »
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it's nothing out of the ordinary.


How do you figure that?

You think Greenland and the Ice Caps melt every, oh say, 1000 or so years?

They dont.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 12:59:03 pm »
I dont believe in evolution theory or something ... it as simple as it gets. there is just one rule called natural selection. if nature doesnt want you, you cant live. and yes global warming is not the end of the world but human race has less chance to survive. my theory is human race will extinct in 1 million years and reptiles will rule the earth once again.

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2007, 01:54:42 pm »
Quote from: "Timbo"
Not exactly without bias, but worth a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle


http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Global_warming


I don't belive whats happening this is a better referense site at all times.
By the way the fosil fuels will end in few yers(ment few hunreds of years)
and the global worming will stop moast likely. For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet. Global warming is unstoppable anyway.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2007, 04:05:49 pm »
The only aspect of global warming that the majority agree on is that the overall average temperature is increasing. Almost every other aspect is still controversial to many.
There are many parties that have a vested interest in people believing that human influence is the cause of global warming, and there are many parties with a vested interest in people believing that it is not. Hence, the skepticism, conspiracy theories and flame wars are rife.

All I can say is study the arguments both for and against the various theories out there before deciding what you think on the matter. Look for reliable sources where possible - avoid the industrial propaganda and the hippie's blogs. Don't radicalize yourself and jump onto a bandwagon, else you become part of the problem whichever side you're on.

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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2007, 04:19:44 pm »
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Africa complained that they don't produce as much CO2 as the western countries, but they are getting the droughts and whatnots instead because of global warming


IRC netsplits because of global warming in that case.
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2007, 05:02:10 pm »
But the main thing is that we CANNOT stick our heads into a sand what ever an individual thinks in light of few different studies. If there might be a threat, it should be properly studied and I bet that NO ONE here has actually read all of them. Arrogance is one thing what humans should avoid. And the truth is that no one really knows what is going on really. You might have opinions but REALLY, not single one of them is entirely true.

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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2007, 05:39:30 pm »
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You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.


Shit yes, took the words right outta my mouth.  And why is evolution the only THEORY allowed to be taught in school, anyway?

You guys do know that the same liberals that are now screaming "Global Warming!" were warning us about "global cooling" 50 years ago, right?  It's called weatherpatterns, dumbfucks.  Sometimes it's a tad warmer, and sometimes it gets colder.  That's all there is to it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2007, 06:34:25 pm »
Listen for a second.  Here's the real deal:

Al Gore wants to make money (thousands of $$$$) speaking at colleges, etcetera.  So he thinks up global warming.  Viola, it works.  Did you know that 15-20 years ago, everyone was freaking out about global cooling?  The truth is that the Earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling, every few billion years we have an ice age, and so on.  There won't be anything to worry about in our life time.  I'm going to buy all the fossil fuels I have use for and if they get extinguished, no doubt it will be after I'm dead.

I know, Al Gore didn't invent global warming but I think he's become one of its biggest icons.  And then he drives a huge car, and breathes out enough hot Carbon Dioxide to cause global warming all by himself.  Definition of the word "hypocrite" right there.

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It pretty much shoots down every "proof" of evolution that there is, for example those gray moths that they taught you about in High School (which is BS, of course)

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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2007, 07:57:44 pm »
The most succesful conspiracy I've seen is today is the effort to make everything that people do looks like a conspiracy.

It's called nerve war. The group that has the most influence wins. But you never win with them.

The world is getting warmer, that's a fact. A link has been found between CO2 amount and the greenhouse effect. Doesn't matter if there is a conspiracy or not, CO2 does in fact add to the global warming effect.

By the way, there is proof of evolution happening all over us. We're just not sure to what extent / over what kind of period evolution happens. But to say that living things were born from a chain of slight chance of colliding particles, I don't think so. Colliding particles which cannot decide, how will they make choice which feature they want to evolve next ? I only believe in evolution by something that can decide. Aliens can evolve. Walls and doors just couldn't.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2007, 08:42:21 pm »
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Global Whining

The only thing that they are trying to accomplish is to inject the minds of ordinary people full of fear, since fear is the driving factor for consumption. Wether it be Muslims, Africanized bees or global warming, as long as you are scared you will consume. While the world may certainly be heating up, it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Even if the Human race is solely responsible for the global warming, the chances of the Human race being able to stop it are slim.


I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such ignorance.  Fortunately, your views are now becoming the minority.

The debate whether the world is heating up is long over, it's an undeniable fact. The question is whether or not humans have played an accelerating part. Are we having an impact on this natural process? Even without the scientific evidence, it doesn't take a scientist to look at the impact of billions of humans and their industrial hunger and say, whoa, what kinda shit are we getting ourselves into?

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2007, 08:51:15 pm »
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For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet.


http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/02/is_george_bush.php

As it turns out, George Bush is more environmentally minded than you are.  Although personally, I think all this Global Warming bullshit you liberals are pumping is starting to annoy me.

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2007, 11:02:37 pm »
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Global warming is total BS. Period.

Im not even going to comment on that one.

Quote from: "demenator"
For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet.

First of all, learn to type.
Second, it sounds to me like you consider the American president king of the world...how is it all his fault?

Oh, and that uncyclopedia link looks like something that was written in 15 minutes by an angry person with a lot of free time. It's a completely biased site with a bunch of unscientific wisecracks. Try using that as a reference to a college paper and see how credible your professor finds it.



Whether this is due to "Global Warming" or not...thats a pretty steady change.
The percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has increased by 34% since the beginning of the industrialism of America.
And yes- humans can stop this. However, just as at night it takes longer for the ocean to cool than the beach, the oceans will take longer to cool down than land. In fact, if something drastic isn't done in the next ten years, its likely that the oceans will take many years to cool.

Of course, it COULD be a weather pattern. But...do we know this? No. And you know what, complaining about "liberals" won't help.
You see...the "theory" of global warming is no longer a "theory". The greenhouse effect has been scientifically proven. Emissions from our automobiles, power plants, and other things rise into the atmosphere. The UV rays and heat from the sun pass through the atmosphere, bounce off the earth, and are trapped inside. It works exactly the same as a greenhouse does. Hence the name.

And just because some people want to do something about this instead of waiting 20 years to see if its "just a weather pattern" arent "dumbfucks".

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2007, 11:13:05 pm »
The earth is coming out of an ice age, it will obviously get warmer. I would be more worried if it started getting colder.

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2007, 11:19:01 pm »
The temperature of earth began increasing during the industrial revolution. Are you saying the earth was in an ice age up until the 1800's?

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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2007, 11:19:11 pm »
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The earth is coming out of an ice age, it will obviously get warmer. I would be more worried if it started getting colder.

I Agree
But the internet answers, lies etc. here's something http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2007, 11:21:37 pm »
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And just because some people want to do something about this instead of waiting 20 years to see if its "just a weather pattern" arent "dumbfucks".


Fair enough.

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2007, 11:34:13 pm »
Global warming is a fact. Those who think otherwise either don't have the full info, or just don't want to believe it's happening. Yes, it's our fault. The burning of fossil fuels excessively has raised the CO2 level and therefore, more heat is being stored in the atmostphere. Yes, because of this, ice from glaciers is melting and the water levels are rising. Yes, if we choose to do nothing, we are in deep shit.


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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2007, 12:27:01 am »
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
Global warming is a fact. Those who thihk otherwise either don't have the full info, or just don't want to believe it's happening. Yes, it's our fault. The buring of fossil fuels excessively has raised teh CO2 level and therefore, more heat is being stored in the atmostphere. Yes, becasue of this, ice is melting and the water levels are rising. Yes, if we choose to do nothing, we are in deep shit.


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