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« on: May 04, 2007, 01:11:44 am »
Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the house, wants to hear the peoples opinions on the matter of impeachment.

Thousands of people today have called her number simply stating:

"I'd like to register my support for the impeachment of George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney." You will most likely get her secretary, that is whom I spoke too.
 
The phone number was posted on the social bookmarking site digg.com, where the majority of phone calls have come from.

Bush has been undermining the Constitution. Impeachment will not remove him from office, but it is the first step to a trial.

You have nothing to lose by making the phone call. If you choose not to, you are silencing yourself and allowing this corruption to continue.

A secretary may tell you that there is no poll but she will pass your message on, but others will just say thank you for calling. With thousands+ people doing this, it will surely make some sort of an impact.

Nancy Pelosi's Office Number: 1-202-225-0100
Reference (The Original Digg Article): http://digg.com/political_opinion/House_Speaker_Pelosi_wants_to_hear_your_opinion_on_Bush_Cheney_impeachment

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 02:49:25 am »
I support that too.

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 12:40:53 pm »
and what about impeachment in Poland?? we also need that :wink:

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 02:49:54 pm »
The President is allowed to put troops anywhere in the world for as long as necissary until he decides to bring them back, or until Congress invokes the War Powers bill and makes him bring them home.  Nothing illegal there.

If you're referring to the firing of Federal prosecutors, look it up.  They are under the employ of the President of the united states, and as long as they aren't judges, he can fire any federal employee on a whim.  Nothing illegal there.

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 04:45:33 pm »
Quote from: "KobraKaine"
The President is allowed to put troops anywhere in the world for as long as necissary until he decides to bring them back, or until Congress invokes the War Powers bill and makes him bring them home.  Nothing illegal there.

If you're referring to the firing of Federal prosecutors, look it up.  They are under the employ of the President of the united states, and as long as they aren't judges, he can fire any federal employee on a whim.  Nothing illegal there.


That's the point, it is legal, but a vast number of people think he is misusing that right. It's like you are saying it's legal to buy guns, and you cannot restrain them when they shoot people. DUR DUR DUR DUR DURRRR !!!
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 04:59:20 pm »
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The President is allowed to put troops anywhere in the world for as long as necissary until he decides to bring them back, or until Congress invokes the War Powers bill and makes him bring them home.  Nothing illegal there.

If you're referring to the firing of Federal prosecutors, look it up.  They are under the employ of the President of the united states, and as long as they aren't judges, he can fire any federal employee on a whim.  Nothing illegal there.


That's the point, it is legal, but a vast number of people think he is misusing that right. It's like you are saying it's legal to buy guns, and you cannot restrain them when they shoot people. DUR DUR DUR DUR DURRRR !!!


Impeachment is only used when illegal activity is occurring.  Anyway, there is nowhere near enough Democrats in congress to get a 2/3 majority vote.  If they tried, it would be political suicide because then the Republicans in the Senate would filibuster for the rest of the President's term.

Nothing would be accomplished.  There is no way Pelosi is THAT stupid.  (Close, but not quite)

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 05:23:04 pm »
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The President is allowed to put troops anywhere in the world for as long as necissary until he decides to bring them back, or until Congress invokes the War Powers bill and makes him bring them home.  Nothing illegal there.

If you're referring to the firing of Federal prosecutors, look it up.  They are under the employ of the President of the united states, and as long as they aren't judges, he can fire any federal employee on a whim.  Nothing illegal there.


That's the point, it is legal, but a vast number of people think he is misusing that right. It's like you are saying it's legal to buy guns, and you cannot restrain them when they shoot people. DUR DUR DUR DUR DURRRR !!!


Impeachment is only used when illegal activity is occurring.  Anyway, there is nowhere near enough Democrats in congress to get a 2/3 majority vote.  If they tried, it would be political suicide because then the Republicans in the Senate would filibuster for the rest of the President's term.

Nothing would be accomplished.  There is no way Pelosi is THAT stupid.  (Close, but not quite)


There's no damn way that the Democratic Party would waste political capital pissing off some of the people whose votes they need.  Bush hasn't done anything illegal, and the merit of his decision to go to war is a matter of opinion.  There is no legal case that could get it accomplished.   Here's a thought:  All these Dems trying to get elected that spend their time saying Bush is the problem- there's a huge hole in their arguments.   If Bush is the problem with the war, then why aren't they just waiting for his term to end?  If he's the problem, then what are they freaking about?  He served two terms.  He can't serve any more.  No brainer, folks.  If the Democrats really want to stand a chance in this election, they're going to have to make valid points about taking care of the country that have nothing to do with President Bush.  He won't be President in a year-poin-five, so who cares what they're going to do about him?  I want to hear how they're going to stabilize the situation in Iraq before they leave, so we don't have to go back in thirty years, I want to hear how they're going to actually do something about uniting the United States and stop tearing the country apart with political showboating, and I want to STOP HEARING THEM WHINE!!!  They need to get off the soapbox and start acting.  Hell. This applies the Republicans, too. Talk is cheap.  Actions are gold.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 05:27:16 pm »
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They need to get off the soapbox and start acting.  Hell. This applies the Republicans, too. Talk is cheap.  Actions are gold.


I'm in total agreement.  I support the Republicans as the lesser of two evils, but with all the crappy presidential hopefuls lining up on both sides... this next election is going to be hell.  Romney, McCain, Clinton, Guilioni (sp?), Edwards... they are all awful, and they are all the most likely to get their party's nominations.

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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 05:40:40 pm »
Eh, Hillary is unelectable.  She pissed too many people off over her years, meandering her way to the white house.  Don't even worry about her.  Obama is too inexperienced.  I can only hope that they (the two unelectables with the most chance to get nominated) tear each other to shreds in the primaries.  What we need is someone who is running for president, whose OVERRIDING GOAL IN LIFE IS NOT TO BE PRESIDENT.   We need someone who is concerned with the well being of America, not the well being of his/her office.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 06:03:17 pm »
:D
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 06:11:29 pm »
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:D


No sleekslacker, I will NOT vote you for president....  :P

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 06:13:23 pm »
Nah I don't want to. Imagine the US population 10 years from now.. full of youth like you. It would be like playing with noobs :D.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 06:14:27 pm »
Yeah, I have to admit, considering the current state of disinformation of America's youth, it is like playing with a bunch of noobs.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 06:15:41 pm »
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Yeah, I have to admit, considering the current state of disinformation of America's youth, it is like playing with a bunch of noobs.


Fucking liberal noobs...

If only teachers weren't forced into unions that donate all their PAC money to the Democrats... our students are being brainwashed.

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 08:04:28 pm »
We, the undersigned, believe George W. Bush should be prosecuted for the following war crimes:

1. George W. Bush ordered a War of Aggression against Iraq. This constitutes a Crime Against Peace - for which Nazi leaders were prosecuted at the Nuremberg Trials - and violates the UN Charter.

    * Iraq never attacked the US or threatened an attack, so the US was not acting legally in self-defense, which is permitted under the UN Charter.        
    * Iraq played no role in the September 11, 2001 attack on the US and never provided material support to any terrorist group that attacked the US, so even the non-legal Bush doctrine of pre-emptive attack did not apply.  
    * At the time of the US attack, Iraq was nearing full compliance with UN Resolution 1441 and prior resolutions requiring disarmament, and the majority of the Security Council believed UN inspectors should be given more time, so the US was not enforcing UN resolutions, as it claims.          
    * George W. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq in order to bring about a regime change, which was never authorized by a UN resolution, and violates the UN Charter.

A Crime Against Peace is defined as "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing." By invading Iraq, Bush has committed a Crime Against Peace.

2. George W. Bush ordered the bombing of civilian areas like Baghdad (with 5 million innocent civilians) and Basra. This resulted in the deaths of hundreds of non-combatants, in violation of Geneva Convention (IV) Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, August 12, 1949.

    * Article 3(1): The following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to [non-combatants]: (a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture.

The independent Web site IraqBodyCount.org is documenting each Iraqi civilian death, based on reports from at least two mainstream Western media organizations (AP, Reuters, CNN, etc.)

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2007, 12:05:59 am »
Don't forget US troops firing on a TV station that they were at earlier that day.  No way you can call that accidental.

(totally made up as a joke could not resist)

"Hey bob I don't know about these orders weren't didn't we eat lunch in that building with some reporter?"

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2007, 01:06:35 am »
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Eh, Hillary is unelectable.  She pissed too many people off over her years, meandering her way to the white house.  Don't even worry about her.  Obama is too inexperienced.  I can only hope that they (the two unelectables with the most chance to get nominated) tear each other to shreds in the primaries.  What we need is someone who is running for president, whose OVERRIDING GOAL IN LIFE IS NOT TO BE PRESIDENT.   We need someone who is concerned with the well being of America, not the well being of his/her office.

sadly that will never happen, why?  Because someone who actually cares is someone who isn't rich and doesn't have power.  In order to become president of our great country you need to be a rich jerk with no regard for the citizens.  

I feel that the war in iraq is right.  What about helping korea because half of its country is Freaking insane and communisitic.  No one complains about that.  We only complain about the iraq thing because there are more troops there.  We have troops stationed all around I think it would be wiser to finish this now than to pull out when we are close to done.

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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2007, 01:07:59 am »
don't forget legalizing torture and invasion of privacy (wiretaps) as well as unjustified jailing and unwarrented search of seizure, which are all illegal according to the us constitution

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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2007, 01:34:05 am »
Power, we had no business to be in there in the first place. They were in no way connected with 9/11 and had not provoked us. We have killed more citizens in 3 years than saddam did in 3. Look what happens when we try to input a democracy. It wont work there. A dictator seems like its required.

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2007, 04:17:28 am »
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Power, we had no business to be in there in the first place. They were in no way connected with 9/11 and had not provoked us. We have killed more citizens in 3 years than saddam did in 3. Look what happens when we try to input a democracy. It wont work there. A dictator seems like its required.

you have a point but idk.  I don't think bush is doing everything right but I also don't think hes doing enough bad to be impeached.  I mean their god requires them to kill people to get into heave.  Its deffinetly not a well ran country.

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 09:41:23 am »
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you have a point but idk.  I don't think bush is doing everything right but I also don't think hes doing enough bad to be impeached.  I mean their god requires them to kill people to get into heave.  Its deffinetly not a well ran country.


They don't go to heaven if they kill any people. They go to heaven if they die fighting for their homeland. DUH ! Don't blame them when you started the war. You start a fight and whine when you get punched back. LOL.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2007, 12:47:26 pm »
America sure is picky with what countries they want to 'liberate'.

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 07:25:57 am »
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you have a point but idk.  I don't think bush is doing everything right but I also don't think hes doing enough bad to be impeached.  I mean their god requires them to kill people to get into heave.  Its deffinetly not a well ran country.


They don't go to heaven if they kill any people. They go to heaven if they die fighting for their homeland. DUH ! Don't blame them when you started the war. You start a fight and whine when you get punched back. LOL.


......    First off we didn't start the war, terrorists did by driving planes into two major buildings of ours.  I don't really care to argue politics anyway because there is very little of it I understand or care to understand.  It is very unlikely I will ever hold a political position and I don't want to anyway.  I didn't know strapping bombs to little kids and telling them to run into the next door neighbors house was dieing for your country.  They cause more deaths internally to their own citizens than they do U.S troops.  Hey if you kill 6 of your neighbors you'll go to heaven.  At least that isn't our motto for our troops.  America is not perfect but I would give it a up on Iraq, or any of the middle eastern countries for that matter, any day.  Btw several news stations have ran several surveys and the majority of the citizens don't like the government as it is.  They only follow it out of fear.  Helping them I think is a good thing not an arrogant thing but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 05:30:52 pm »
Well idk about the Iraq war and if we should have gotten involved or not, but I say that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are definitly bad enough to be impeached. We should get rid of them.
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 05:55:17 pm »
Power. The Iraq war had NOTHING to do with 9/11. We started the war because of supposed WMDs. Get your facts straight. Seriously.

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 05:41:13 pm »
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Eh, Hillary is unelectable.  She pissed too many people off over her years, meandering her way to the white house.  Don't even worry about her.  Obama is too inexperienced.  I can only hope that they (the two unelectables with the most chance to get nominated) tear each other to shreds in the primaries.  What we need is someone who is running for president, whose OVERRIDING GOAL IN LIFE IS NOT TO BE PRESIDENT.   We need someone who is concerned with the well being of America, not the well being of his/her office.

sadly that will never happen, why?  Because someone who actually cares is someone who isn't rich and doesn't have power.  In order to become president of our great country you need to be a rich jerk with no regard for the citizens.  

I feel that the war in iraq is right.  What about helping korea because half of its country is Freaking insane and communisitic.  No one complains about that.  We only complain about the iraq thing because there are more troops there.  We have troops stationed all around I think it would be wiser to finish this now than to pull out when we are close to done.


I agree, though the only objection I have is that being rich doesn't make you evil.   It's just that many evil people happen to be rich that gives them such a bad name.  When evil people become rich, they can do more damage, and thus achieve the negative affect of making all rich people look like scum.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 11:27:07 pm »
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Power. The Iraq war had NOTHING to do with 9/11. We started the war because of supposed WMDs. Get your facts straight. Seriously.

By this point most people know WMDs were the scapegoat.. the real reason was just a hate for Iraq and hopes we could be friends with a country with oil by setting up its government.

The president has seriously screwed us in so many ways..