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Rabbitt

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Running 2 servers with 2 admin.dat
« on: May 13, 2007, 07:10:49 am »
Ok as most know i host 2 servers but what most do not know is i am having a problem having each server use its own admin.dat file.

Ive gone thru and config each tremserver files to +set admin1.dat and the other to admin.dat.
No matter what it stills uses the same info for each.
Im not trying to have all the same admins on both servers.

Any help is needed.

So what im asking is how can i get them to have seperate admins ?
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2007, 10:20:13 am »
Have you read the desicription of g_admin cvar?
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2007, 01:35:51 pm »
honestl if i understood what a cvar is then maybe.
I dunno tha technical terms of things so give them to me in laemans terms.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 02:00:23 pm »
a cvar is a variable you can set.  All the settings in server.cfg are cvars.

add g_admin path/to/file to move the admin.dat
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 09:51:56 pm »
set g_admin then what ?
Im not understanding the path to file part.

Both admin.dat's are in the base folder.

should it be like / set g_admin admin1.dat ?
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 10:57:59 pm »
yes.
I'm going to assume its just the name, relative to the base folder, however it may be an absolute path or something, so play around with different settings.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2007, 12:34:37 pm »
Ok i tryed set g_admin admin1.dat and its still not working.

Theres got to be a way to do this.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2007, 03:13:32 pm »
Run them as two separate servers?
Give them both there own user account.  You should run servers under there own anyway, for security reasons, but if each server gets its own home dir, then the server.cfg's and admin.dat's are all totally separate.  It'll also be beneficial when you want to run a mod or whatever, and need two different tremdeds.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2007, 06:33:48 pm »
Anyway you could walk me thru it all ?
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2007, 06:51:42 pm »
At the top of the server.cfg theres g_admin admin.dat
Do g_admin new admin.dat name
I use this all the time with my servers.
So for the first server you renamed the admin.dat to myadmins.dat then you'd put in your server.cfg g_admin myadmins.dat
Then for the second one you copied myadmins.dat and renamed it to myotheradmins.dat then you'd put in your second server1.cfg g_admin myotheradmins.dat
Now in the command line to start the server, you need to change the +exec server.cfg to +exec server1.cfg
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Rabbitt

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2007, 12:11:48 am »
I have done that already.
There wasnt a g_admin in my server.cfg already i had to add them both and they still share.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2007, 09:09:33 am »
Post here your server.cfgs, the command you use to run tremded and tremded console output.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 11:25:08 am »
tremulous 1.1.0 win_mingw-x86 Aug 27 2006
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Documents and Settings\haaa\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous/base
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\wth.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.0.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\outpost_p4.pk3 (42 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\nameless_alpha.pk3 (29 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\mod-fixedsounds.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_powergrid_b25.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_aegis_station_b1.pk3 (13 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-watah-b5.pk3 (255 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-volcano-alpha3-1.1.0.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-volcano-alpha2-1.1.0.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-UTCSb2.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-urban-p2.pk3 (83 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-alpha3.pk3 (77 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uncreation-1.1.0.pk3 (110 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-tremor-1.1.0.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-transit-1.1.0.pk3 (135 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal-b2.pk3 (207 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-theBunker-1.0.0.pk3 (107 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-temple-0[1].5.pk3 (99 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-temple-0.5.5.pk3 (100 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-StarGateCommand-b1.pk3 (130 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov-1.1.pk3 (228 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-skycastle-1.0.pk3 (26 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sirius-alpha1.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (79 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pushcannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pulse-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (198 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon.pk3 (108 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-outpost_p4_beta3.pk3 (61 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Outpost-Warthog.pk3 (300 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-openfield-beta2.pk3 (49 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-omega_b1.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-noname.pk3 (48 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-nexus6-1.1.0.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-minetest2.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-metro-b1.pk3 (493 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-meep_b2.pk3 (181 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-marsbase_b2.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth-build19.pk3 (128 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-karith-1.1.0.pk3 (118 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-highrise1.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-hamunaptra-1.0.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom_b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom3t.pk3 (172 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom2beta2.pk3 (219 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gamma_core-beta6.pk3 (78 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-foto_ita.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-flap.pk3 (96 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-DMB01-alpa.1.0.pk3 (141 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-derelictb-beta04.pk3 (178 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Cerberus_b1.pk3 (73 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-cannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Bunker5634.pk3 (40 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-battlezone_final.pk3 (19 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b2.pk3 (50 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs3.pk3 (88 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arkadia.pk3 (39 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arachnid2-1.1.0.pk3 (67 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ancient_remains-1.0.pk3 (123 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ADOCa1.pk3 (51 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\hamunaptra.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\data-1.1.0.pk3 (1229 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\bresalpha1.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous/base

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8655 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
execing autogen.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
...detecting CPU, found generic

------- Input Initialization -------
No window for DirectInput mouse init, delaying
Joystick is not active.
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--- Common Initialization Complete ---
Winsock Initialized
Opening IP socket: localhost:32123
Hostname: tattoo-3puec777
IP: 192.168.0.2
Working directory: C:\Program Files\Tremulous
execing server.cfg
------ Server Initialization ------
Server: atcs
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Documents and Settings\haaa\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous/base
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\wth.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vms-1.1.0.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\outpost_p4.pk3 (42 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\nameless_alpha.pk3 (29 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\mod-fixedsounds.pk3 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_powergrid_b25.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map_aegis_station_b1.pk3 (13 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-watah-b5.pk3 (255 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-volcano-alpha3-1.1.0.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-volcano-alpha2-1.1.0.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-UTCSb2.pk3 (11 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-urban-p2.pk3 (83 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uranium-alpha3.pk3 (77 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-uncreation-1.1.0.pk3 (110 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-tremor-1.1.0.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-transit-1.1.0.pk3 (135 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-thermal-b2.pk3 (207 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-theBunker-1.0.0.pk3 (107 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-temple-0[1].5.pk3 (99 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-temple-0.5.5.pk3 (100 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-StarGateCommand-b1.pk3 (130 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sokolov-1.1.pk3 (228 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-skycastle-1.0.pk3 (26 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sirius-alpha1.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-sedna-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (79 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pushcannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-pulse-beta3-1.1.0.pk3 (198 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-procyon.pk3 (108 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-outpost_p4_beta3.pk3 (61 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Outpost-Warthog.pk3 (300 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-openfield-beta2.pk3 (49 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-omega_b1.pk3 (8 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-noname.pk3 (48 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3 (134 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-nexus6-1.1.0.pk3 (151 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-minetest2.pk3 (2 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-metro-b1.pk3 (493 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-meep_b2.pk3 (181 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-marsbase_b2.pk3 (85 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth.pk3 (45 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Labyrinth-build19.pk3 (128 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-karith-1.1.0.pk3 (118 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-highrise1.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-hamunaptra-1.0.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom_b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom3t.pk3 (172 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gloom2beta2.pk3 (219 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-gamma_core-beta6.pk3 (78 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-foto_ita.pk3 (6 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-flap.pk3 (96 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-DMB01-alpa.1.0.pk3 (141 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-derelictb-beta04.pk3 (178 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Cerberus_b1.pk3 (73 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-cannon_b1.pk3 (17 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-Bunker5634.pk3 (40 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-battlezone_final.pk3 (19 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b2.pk3 (50 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcszalpha-b1.pk3 (52 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs3.pk3 (88 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3 (87 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arkadia.pk3 (39 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-arachnid2-1.1.0.pk3 (67 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ancient_remains-1.0.pk3 (123 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\map-ADOCa1.pk3 (51 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\hamunaptra.pk3 (762 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\data-1.1.0.pk3 (1229 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\bresalpha1.pk3 (44 files)
C:\Program Files\Tremulous/base

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17310 files in pk3 files
Loading vm file vm/game.qvm...
...which has vmMagic VM_MAGIC_VER2
Loading 902 jump table targets
VM file game compiled to 1227502 bytes of code
game loaded in 34190496 bytes on the hunk
------- Game Initialization -------
gamename: base
gamedate: Feb  1 2007
------------------------------------------------------------
InitGame: \sv_wwwBaseURL\http://www.mercenariesguild.net\sv_maxPing\350\sv_minPing\0\sv_maxRate\25000\sv_hostname\{S/W} Public\timelimit\50\sv_maxclients\22\sv_minRate\5000\g_suddenDeathTime\35\g_maxGameClients\0\g_suddenDeathMode\2\g_unlagged\1\version\tremulous 1.1.0 win_mingw-x86 Aug 27 2006\protocol\69\mapname\atcs\sv_privateClients\2\sv_allowDownload\1\g_needpass\0\sv_dlURL\http://www.mercenariesguild.net\gamename\base
!readconfig: loaded 6 levels, 22 admins, 1 bans, 0 commands
2 teams with 2 entities
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usage: set <variable> <value>
Hitch warning: 121141774 msec frame time
Resolving master.tremulous.net
master.tremulous.net resolved to 208.116.49.110:30710
Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
Hitch warning: 981 msec frame time




tremded.exe +set dedicated 2 +exec server.cfg +set net_port 32123 +set admin.dat




// main configuration
set sv_wwwDownload 1
sets sv_wwwBaseURL "http://www.mercenariesguild.net"
sets sv_dlURL "http://www.mercenariesguild.net"
set sv_maxclients 22            // maximum number of clients
set sv_pure 1               // disallow clients with modified content
set sv_allowdownload 1            // allow downloads from the server
set sv_minrate 5000            // Minumum rate for connected clients
set sv_maxrate 25000            // Maximum rate for connected clients
set sv_minsnaps 10            // Minumum snapshots for connected clients
set sv_minping 0            // Minumum latency for connected clients
set sv_maxping 350            // Maximum latency for connected clients
set g_admin admin.dat                  // prevents connection of clients with higher ping
set g_allowvote 1            // enable client map/kick voting by "/callvote" cmd
set g_antilag 1               // serverside antilag feature
set g_initialmaprotation rotation1      // following the first map, start this rotation
set g_mincommandperiod 1000
set pmove_fixed 0
set g_retribution 10
set g_allowShare 1
set g_dretchpunt 1
set g_suddenDeathMode 2


// gameplay specific configuration

set timelimit 50            // after 60 minutes, the game will end as a draw
set g_suddendeathtime 35         // after 55 minutes, all build points are removed
set g_teamforcebalance 1         // forces each team to have a similar number of players
set g_friendlyfire 1            // teammates may damage each other
set g_humanBuildPoints 100         // Number of buildpoints for human team, default 100
set g_humanMaxStage 2            // Maximum human stage (s1=0, s2=1, s3=2)
set g_humanStage2Threshold 20         // threshold for humans to reach stage 2, default 20
set g_humanStage3Threshold 40         // threshold for humans to reach stage 3, default 40
set g_alienBuildPoints 100         // Number of buildpoints for alien team, default 100
set g_alienMaxStage 2            // Maximum alien stage (s1=0, s2=1, s3=2)
set g_alienStage2Threshold 20         // threshold for aliens to reach stage 2, default 20
set g_alienStage3Threshold 40         // threshold for aliens to reach stage 3, default 40
set g_gravity 800            // gravity setting, default 800


//start this map first

map atcs



Thats 1 of them. If you need the other ill post.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2007, 05:51:30 pm »
Quote from: "Rabbitt"
tremded.exe +set dedicated 2 +exec server.cfg +set net_port 32123 +set admin.dat




// main configuration
set sv_wwwDownload 1
sets sv_wwwBaseURL "http://www.mercenariesguild.net"
sets sv_dlURL "http://www.mercenariesguild.net"
set sv_maxclients 22            // maximum number of clients
set sv_pure 1               // disallow clients with modified content
set sv_allowdownload 1            // allow downloads from the server
set sv_minrate 5000            // Minumum rate for connected clients
set sv_maxrate 25000            // Maximum rate for connected clients
set sv_minsnaps 10            // Minumum snapshots for connected clients
set sv_minping 0            // Minumum latency for connected clients
set sv_maxping 350            // Maximum latency for connected clients
set g_admin admin.dat                  // prevents connection of clients with higher ping
set g_allowvote 1            // enable client map/kick voting by "/callvote" cmd
set g_antilag 1               // serverside antilag feature
set g_initialmaprotation rotation1      // following the first map, start this rotation
set g_mincommandperiod 1000
set pmove_fixed 0
set g_retribution 10
set g_allowShare 1
set g_dretchpunt 1
set g_suddenDeathMode 2


// gameplay specific configuration

set timelimit 50            // after 60 minutes, the game will end as a draw
set g_suddendeathtime 35         // after 55 minutes, all build points are removed
set g_teamforcebalance 1         // forces each team to have a similar number of players
set g_friendlyfire 1            // teammates may damage each other
set g_humanBuildPoints 100         // Number of buildpoints for human team, default 100
set g_humanMaxStage 2            // Maximum human stage (s1=0, s2=1, s3=2)
set g_humanStage2Threshold 20         // threshold for humans to reach stage 2, default 20
set g_humanStage3Threshold 40         // threshold for humans to reach stage 3, default 40
set g_alienBuildPoints 100         // Number of buildpoints for alien team, default 100
set g_alienMaxStage 2            // Maximum alien stage (s1=0, s2=1, s3=2)
set g_alienStage2Threshold 20         // threshold for aliens to reach stage 2, default 20
set g_alienStage3Threshold 40         // threshold for aliens to reach stage 3, default 40
set g_gravity 800            // gravity setting, default 800


//start this map first

map atcs



Thats 1 of them. If you need the other ill post.


You're joking, right? :roll:
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2007, 09:26:07 pm »
Haha i just figured it out for myself after you highlighted that.

I wonder why having that would make it do that though.
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