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Rabbitt

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Dedicated Server's
« on: May 14, 2007, 01:17:22 pm »
I have been doing research into dedicated server's trying to see what classifies as one.

The reason is because im almost finished building my new pc and was thinking about trying to update the older one to be a dedicated server for a server , forums and teamspeak for some lucky clan or whoever.

P4 2.8 ghz
160 gig drive
1 gig RAM

Im looking into running windows server 2003 but ill get to that when the time is needed.
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NiTRoX

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2007, 04:07:42 pm »
Nice man :)

I would like a server :)
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KobraKaine

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2007, 04:48:30 pm »
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Nice man :)

I would like a server :)


Hey!  Nitrox is back!   Where you been, dude?
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NiTRoX

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2007, 04:58:19 pm »
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Hey! Nitrox is back! Where you been, dude?


I've always been here I just didn't post where it wasn't necessary :)

Anywayz lets not get off-topic or we'll ruin rabbitt's post.

Also Rabbitt..you seemed you needed some help or advice on the server 'cause your posts seems that you want to tell us something not we tell you something or maybe thats just me.
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kevlarman

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Re: Dedicated Server's
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2007, 05:17:04 pm »
Quote from: "Rabbitt"
I have been doing research into dedicated server's trying to see what classifies as one.

The reason is because im almost finished building my new pc and was thinking about trying to update the older one to be a dedicated server for a server , forums and teamspeak for some lucky clan or whoever.

P4 2.8 ghz
160 gig drive
1 gig RAM

Im looking into running windows server 2003 but ill get to that when the time is needed.
that hardware is more than enough to run all that stuff on (assuming you have the connection for it), but i would recommend some *nix instead of win2k3 (unless you have experience with windows server 2k3) because it's much more painless to set up a trem server. you would need httpd and mysqld (or whatever you end up using), niced to at least 10 to avoid locking up your server for 5 seconds every time someone accesses the page though.
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Rabbitt

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2007, 06:38:47 pm »
So all i need to do is get a server os and install what programs i want and it will then be a dedicated ?


Kobra and Nitrox jacking my thread like bandits.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2007, 07:03:22 pm »
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Anywayz lets not get off-topic or we'll ruin rabbitt's post.


>XD this is the off-topic section!!! lol
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NiTRoX

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2007, 07:06:07 pm »
For a safe and free linux distro which makes a good server i suggest Adamtix, EnGuarde Secure linux, freespire, QiLinux and trustix.

for more check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

others: http://www.clarkconnect.com/
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KobraKaine

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2007, 08:06:48 pm »
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Kobra and Nitrox jacking my thread like bandits.


 :P My apologies.
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kevlarman

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2007, 08:53:44 pm »
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For a safe and free linux distro which makes a good server i suggest Adamtix, EnGuarde Secure linux, freespire, QiLinux and trustix.

for more check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

others: http://www.clarkconnect.com/
eww, freespire? (i'm sure i could come up with good complaints about the others if i had ever heard of them). debian makes a more than decent server OS.
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Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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NiTRoX

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2007, 08:58:31 pm »
Freespire is easy to use. All I have to say.

Most of the distros mention were developed for security.

Ubuntu and SLED are also good.
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Rabbitt

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2007, 12:13:03 am »
Ok so once again all i need to do is wipe everything on it format it install a server os then install trem programs and boom its done ??
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2007, 01:04:44 am »
No.

Installing Linux is easy. (ish)
If its debian or whatever, install a good web server and whatever else is also easy.

However it will fail miserably if you cant maintain it, and if you've never used *nix before, you will fail miserably.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2007, 04:06:17 am »
So coul;d i run it on a regular os like xp or red hat ?
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2007, 10:17:50 am »
not really, there are a lot of tasks that a server needs to perform so its best to have an OS that is designed for use in servers, windows XP cant run a server (so i think) its possible on mac OS (i think).

i dont know much as much about computers as these guys (but im learning atm  :) )

Edit: removed stupid words (didnt know linux and unix were basically the same... :-? )
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Rabbitt

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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2007, 02:06:19 pm »
Thanks lord for the help.

OK so im pretty sure i can do this.
Im just worried about the thing being too much to handle at first.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2007, 02:45:20 pm »
Just drop any linux distro (even Ubuntu) on an old crusty machine.  There are many docs and howtos on the net for setting up just about any game as a dedicated server on linux - as most every game has a linux binary for it (even for win only clients).

You will get far more greater bang for the buck on old hardware with linux as a dedicated server for anything - from ftp server to a game host.  If you used Xubuntu for example, you would still have a minimal GUI and plenty of resources left over for running all kinds of dedicated server applications.  

What's the old computer specs?  I thought the one you listed above was the new one you are putting together.  If I misunderstood, then what you listed could easily run Ubuntu (or Kubuntu), it's 100% free, there's a wealth of docs out there, and you would join the many hordes of server admins already using linux for everything.
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Rabbitt

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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2007, 05:16:15 pm »
The specs are the old one lol.
My newest creation is a 3.2 with 2 gig ram and 1.5 terrabyte hd
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2007, 05:55:55 pm »
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If you used Xubuntu for example, you would still have a minimal GUI and plenty of resources left over for running all kinds of dedicated server applications.


I love XFCE.  it kicks gnomes arse into next year.
Also, what ever distro you use, disable X at boot, it will just eat ram that could be used elsewhere.  When (if) you need it you can login at the text prompt, and do startx to get it back, or you could even add it to bashrc so it runs when you log in.

Although I can see no reason why you would need a nice flashy desktop, I routinely have my desktop with just a few terminals open, which seems kind of wasteful...
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