Buh-Bye Mac OSX

[NiTRoX]

http://www.mac-sucks.com/

'nuff said...

Fro mthe site:

Why switch?

The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts.
 So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing.

1. The Mac... It just works

This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true. If you read our Real stories you will find all kinds of interesting stories about owning a mac.
The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many mac:s can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985.




2. It doesn't crash

Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on Linux RedHat?
 There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then!

 

3. Simply the best in digital music

This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution.
The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have.

 

4. The missing link in digital photography

It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...".
Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac.
 Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago.

 

5. Your own digital entertainment center

It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't!

 

6. Goes everywhere you go

You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:

Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world.
Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid?
— Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC!
Does it wake up instantly?
—Duh!
Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet,
dial-up and wireless connections on the fly?
—Without a doubt!
Without a restart?
Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.
 

7. It's built for the internet

Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not.
The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight.

 

8. Office is Office, and then some

Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:

"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"

Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:

"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"

As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent!

 

9. Works effortlessly with PCs

Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.

"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."

They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac:

..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks."

 

10. It's beautiful

Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand.

"...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..."

It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that look like a remnant from the 70's like the one on my right. You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination if staring long enough on this iMac, that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs.

So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning.

Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us.

[DASPRiD]

Nice one, I like it,
but I prefer Linux over Windows

[Taiyo.uk]

* Taiyo.uk's 128-bit OS vs OS topic counter has just overflowed.
* Taiyo.uk's OS vs OS flame war detector says wear asbestos underpants.

[rdizzle]

Since they are touting macs as teh suck because of G5 processors, and a lack of games (lol, what?), I'm guessing the site owner hasn't updated in over a year.

[player1]

wtf/e
t3h macBook runs Trem
OS fLAMEwaralertz
oh noez!
P.S. t3h new MB Pro's have nice ATI Radeon
& Leopard comes out in October

[NiTRoX]

8u7 130p4rd 15 t3h suxorzz

[TinMan]

Apple hardware sucks, 'nuff said.

[Fluxflashor]

thats odd...I made a post to this topic yet it didnt show up. Damn and it was a long post too...

[player1]

Apple hardware sucks, 'nuff said.

since both the SuperDrive and Bluetooth crapped out in my MacBook, I tend to agree with you

as to whether OSX rocks straight outta teh box, I have my reservations (no IRC!?, iChat NOT configured for gamerz!?)

as to the OS wars, I wish u all well

let me know who winz...

thats odd...I made a post to this topic yet it didnt show up. Damn and it was a long post too...

what a ringing endorsement of your operating system :roll:    :eek:  

8u7 130p4rd 15 t3h suxorzz

if Apple didn't innovate, who would MS copy?
nice a website last updated in 2003
what next, an alert about bird flu?
did you know Steven Colbert now has his own show?
go back to sleep Nitrox...

[NiTRoX]

player1 you're right but.....


MAC PLAIN SUCKS

[kozak6]

I'm just chiming in to express my deep hatred of Quicktime.

[rdizzle]

I think this thread is a prime candidate for merging into the big thread os stupidness by Paradox.

[A_Total_noob]

Meh,
talk whatever crap you want about Macs, but the fact is, I like mine. A lot.
Besides, a lot of the points that article mentions are plain BS.
You can do as much gaming as you want on our Mac - just run XP on it.

Besides, I dont even see why you bother to post such a topic-

Site: crap
Your trolling: BS, with a hint of chilli sauce



Yeah, so next time, when you want to bash Apple, and make yourself somehow feel more competant, make sure you have...

1.First actually tried to use a Mac. No, not look at one in your local PC store with distaste, but actually, TRY IT.
2.Find a site which doesnt totally suck. Most of the points it raises just smell like arse-talk from a Windows fanboy who wants to insult others to make himself feel better about..'other' areas of his life.
3.Research before you post some tosh like that.

Now, I will admit that its difficult to upgrade with Apple hardware, but Macs have a high resale value, from which can contribute to just plainly buying a new computer every 3 years.



Verdict:

Phail

[PIE]

You can do as much gaming as you want on our Mac - just run XP on it.

.... then WHY bother with the mac part?

Site: crap
Your trolling: BS, with a hint of chilli sauce

Why?

Yeah, so next time, when you want to bash Apple, and make yourself somehow feel more competant, make sure you have...

I've used mac.. and i agree with the article..

Now, I will admit that its difficult to upgrade with Apple hardware, but Macs have a high resale value, from which can contribute to just plainly buying a new computer every 3 years.

...There is no way you can justify the cost of a new computer over buying components when needed. I'm not sure about the resale value of macs because I haven't sold one, but why would someone want to buy something that is out-dated and that they can't easily bring up to date for any decent price?

Verdict:
Phail

[A_Total_noob]

Why bothert with OSX ?
because its (IMO) a brilliant OS.

It lacks in a lot of 3rd party support, but its still a good OS.
Whether you like it more than XP is your decision.

I too find it strange you agree with the article having had used a Mac, but meh, ok.


What you must realise is that when buying a Mac, you are buying it primarily for OSX support.
Whether you like OSX or not should at all times be the deciding factor of whether or not you buy a Mac. Apparently, OSX is not for you, so gg.

...but if you dont like OSX, then dont inflict your opinion on others who are satisfied with it. Just let it be, and stick to XP/Vista/Linux if you dont like it. Many Windows users for a reason unknown to me find it 'fun' to bash OSX, just because they are on Microsofts boat.

Verdict:

Let topic die

[Kaleo]

If Windows is so good, why does Vista suck so much?

[Steely Ann]

So many swings and so many misses in this thread.

[benmachine]

I have windows installed on this computer. I never use it though, because it takes half a fucking hour to remind it we have a wireless keyboard and mouse and that we'd like to use them, please. Every. Time. I. Switch.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Maybe. But the point is, it just isn't that hard on Mac. It can actually tell you which device you've already added and which one is the mouse (well I can't say for certain, because it's ages since I've had to add one, but I can't remember it being this hard).

It's things like that that keep me on overpriced unupgradable shiny machines. It's worth every penny for an OS that actually works.

[Glunnator]

Either neither suck, or both suck.
There's not a single point you can make to either that can't be countered by another detail in the other.
The one you prefer is always the one you're used to.
I'm on a mac, and I handle it fine.
My friend has a PC and it confuses me horribly.
He can't do anything with my mac either.

So whaddya say guys?

—Both suck
or
—None suck

[PIE]

...I think your a decent judge if you've used both..  if you use one only or the other only and can't really do the other one.. you aren't the best judge. A lot of people like Mac, I just know I know a lot of people who know a lot about computers and who have used them a great deal who hate them. I've used them for hours at a time and I don't really care for it, but some people just need different things in a browser.. its like arguing about what kind of Orange juice is better.. pulpy obviously is the best, but some people just don't like pulp and they are wrong.. but thats ok.. thats their opinion.

[player1]

nitrox u r right but
THIS IS SILLY
and really why do u care if I give my money to one billionaire or the other?

[Kaleo]

nitrox u r right but
THIS IS SILLY
and really why do u care if I give my money to one billionaire or the other?

I agree.

I'd also like to say, I have nothing against XP, but I have everything agaist Vista

[AKAnotu]

unupgradeable?!? what do you call this four hard drive slots, and two graphics card slots

if i had a site with it on, i'd show you a microsoft article with the company officially stating that you should have to reboot windows at least 10 times every workday. just goes to show you something

[powerover]

If Windows is so good, why does Vista suck so much?

All I hear is vista sucks this vista sucks that.  What makes vista suck.  Compatibility and lack of neccesicty.  

Lets point out some things.

I'll make a list of distastes with vista in importance

1. Cost - Vista like its predecesor is a very very expensive operating system.
I personally feel its not worth the money to upgrade it.  On a new machine however it costs the same as an xp machine did so henceforth nulifying cost.

2. XP just worked why change it?  Its true xp is the number one rated operating system ever.  It was a huge come back from the horribly failed ME.  It took all the good things from 2000 and benefited off them.  It simply worked and listened for almost everything.  But its securities did not.  Its encryption options and basic settings failed horribly.  I know vista kept several of the security flaws xp held but it also fixed a lot of them.  

3. Compatiblilty.  Vista's only actual problem as I have seen.  It has issues with a lot of xp based software.  The only beneficial to this is vista was completely changed for the way it ran software.  The improvements are amazing so the outdated software doesn't run as well or doesn't run at all.  There are some problems here but there will be more benefit than damage as more vista designed software emerges.  Many people rant about vista's high system performance requirements but while vista itself uses more recources than xp did the way it runs software doesn't use as much.  So while vista may require so much for itself when running vista designed software one will see huge speed differences than in xp.  Especially in Microsoft Office.  Vista isn't very compatible with xp software because xp software sucked.  XP software especially games require ridiculous system specs to run.  Vista can run office flawlessly on a single core processor with 512 mb/s of ram.  I have tested it.  3 excel items open, 2 word documents, 1 one note item, a game of solitar, spider solitare, minesweeper, and two web browsers open.  The machine was a single core 2.4 ghz processor with 512 ddr ram.  The 3D navigation flawlessly tabbed me between any one of my documents games or items with out any delay.  On xp you open more than 5 windows and they all turn white for 10+ seconds even on a dual core with 1 gig of ddr2 ram.  

4. Vista is all about flashy not usability.  Yes vista chose to go a lot with flash with 3D navigation, gadets, big bulky icons, and fancier preset backgrounds.  I don't see the problem in this.  This is not what your paying for when you get vista.  Its the software running compatibility mentioned above.  Besides Apple's whole OS design has been around being big flashy and "pretty" to say.  I like having the ability to see large versions of every window with the 3D navigation in vista.  Its also nice to have the weather, system resource usage, and my favorite sports team latest scores sitting at the top right of my desktop.  These items aren't worth 400 dollars but thats not what costs 400 dollars.  Its the complete interworking change in vista that was made.

I think that about sums up my ranting.

Bottom line-  Vista is underrated, other than some compatibility issues it is simply the better operating system.  It still has some warming up owed to it but hey people are ignorant.  They are scared of the change from xp.  I work at best buy and we now only carry Vista machines.  People always are scared "don't you have any xp machines I have heard so many bad things about vista" then the next time I see them they say vista took a second to get use to but other than a few issues with old software it really has just worked faster and more securiley than xp.

Now that I am done talking vista up.  I will talk mac down.

Mac is a decent product for someone who likes simple media and wants no hassle.  Lets review this though.

Macbookpro with the intel core 2 duo 2.0ghz
2 gigs of ddr2 ram
160 gig hard drive
built in web cam and mic
nividia geforce 6150 128 dedicated graphics
dvd/cd dual layer burner
no worries about viruses and spyware
only starting at $2499.99

HP Dvr9608nr(i think is the model) intel core 2 duo 2.0ghz
2 gigs of ddr2 ram
160 gig hard drive
built in web cam and mic
nividia gefore 7600 256 dedicated graphics
dvd/cd dual layer burner with lightscribe
hddvd player/burner

with 3 years worth of antivirus and spyware software = no worries about viruses and spyware
after tax just over $2200.00

conclusion?  pay more money for less with mac.  Sounds good I'll take it

a pc laptop with identical specs to the mac with virus and spyware is around 18-1900 after tax.  So 600 less.....

hmmm what do I want?

[NiTRoX]

Why did you point out the defects in vista.

Does linux/mac install software as easily as windows does?
Is linux/mac as easy to use as windows?
Is most support from linux companies free?
Mac/linux errors are far more serious than those of windows DLLs.

[David]

Why did you point out the defects in vista.

Does linux/mac install software as easily as windows does?
Is linux/mac as easy to use as windows?
Is most support from linux companies free?
Mac/linux errors are far more serious than those of windows DLLs.

Well done for outlining all the places where linux (and mac?) beats windows.

[AKAnotu]

powerover, i love how you compared it to a mac book pro, a laptop.
a laptop.
as in not as powerful as a desktop

[rdizzle]

You guys all phail the Flaimbait Challenge(tm) by Nitrox.

[player1]

Why did you point out the defects in vista.

Does linux/mac install software as easily as windows does?
Is linux/mac as easy to use as windows?
Is most support from linux companies free?
Mac/linux errors are far more serious than those of windows DLLs.

Well done for outlining all the places where linux (and mac?) beats windows.

@Nitrox:
1) you're joking, right? :eek:
2) you really don't know do you? :-?
3) why are you bashing Linux in your anti-Mac diatribe? :roll:
4) say, you are really funny, thanks for the grinz

[Mispeled]

Oh man, that website totally changed my life. In fact, I think I'm going to sell my macs today and go buy a new Windows machine.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, the only reason I can think you made this thread was to be a troll. Any diehard mac fan is going to ignore you, any rational person who knows anything about Apple's products will realize that it's making outdated, vague arguments, and the microsoft fanboys will blindly agree with you. It's the same in every single platform war using uninformed arguments like these.

I have several macs and a laptop running XP. I like both for different reasons, and they both have flaws (only one of which was on your list – apple mice suck. just go out and buy a $15 multi-button mouse at radioshack).