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« on: June 18, 2007, 10:18:24 am »
I dont wont to spam  w8 another 'A NEW MOD IDEA" topic cos it is anding after errrm... few statement (saying something like 'its inpossible anyway') just a topic where u can wright anything that would be an interesting change in the Tremulous to inspire other moders or just to make a sapid conversation :D (but think it should be a little bit serious :wink: )
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2007, 10:29:35 am »
just a sec ago i just imagined myself a 'Trem-Ancien Mod' humans dont have rifles and all that staff just bows, knifes, rocks and spears. w8 some kind of traps (i dont have idea of spawns yet:P)... Aliens will be slower and smaller maybe other bitmaps - build on floor only. Just like thay havent evolved yet:D
lol i know it would take looooooots of work - just an idea what do u think, any other ideas?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2007, 02:58:04 pm »
hay whats wrong? dont u have any nice ideas? :D
wight something...

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2007, 03:20:40 pm »
don't triple post please.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2007, 05:22:36 pm »
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don't triple post please.

Kev, do your job and delete this already. Threads made by 13-year-olds serve no purpose. :-?

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 06:19:21 pm »
Well, I think that an "Ancient Mod" would be interesting for umm...one map.

Yes. One map. Ancient Remains.

I think that that would be playable, however it would be insanely unbalanced  :roll:

We could just remove tyrants and advanced dragoons, though. Speaking as a VERY unexperienced modder, I don't know how easy that would be.

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2007, 06:44:39 pm »
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Well, I think that an "Ancient Mod" would be interesting for umm...one map.

Yes. One map. Ancient Remains.

I think that that would be playable, however it would be insanely unbalanced  :roll:

We could just remove tyrants and advanced dragoons, though. Speaking as a VERY unexperienced modder, I don't know how easy that would be.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2007, 07:14:28 pm »
>.>  im 18
(sry but that is true Risujin, and w8 all respect to u i find a it not a bad idea just to make that thread - maybe u find it useless but some1 else can be interested about what kind of ideas (serious ideas) do ppl have) And still there is no topic about about all fine ideas. not projects, ideas.

anything can be made when u work in team(same in game as in life:P)
(im glad that some1 found my idea interesting) what about any other ideas?
[if u dont like my topic just delete it anyway, nevertheless i would give it a chance :wink: ]
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2007, 10:26:21 pm »
Quote from: "Redsky"
>.>  im 18
(sry but that is true Risujin, and w8 all respect to u i find a it not a bad idea just to make that thread - maybe u find it useless but some1 else can be interested about what kind of ideas (serious ideas) do ppl have) And still there is no topic about about all fine ideas. not projects, ideas.

anything can be made when u work in team(same in game as in life:P)
(im glad that some1 found my idea interesting) what about any other ideas?
[if u dont like my topic just delete it anyway, nevertheless i would give it a chance :wink: ]
no one who would think seriously of coding anything for trem would find a post interesting if the author thinks "w8", "u","ppl" and "some1" are words.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2007, 11:38:35 pm »
Quote from: "Redsky"
I dont wont to spam  w8 another 'A NEW MOD IDEA" topic cos it is anding after errrm... few statement (saying something like 'its inpossible anyway') just a topic where u can wright anything that would be an interesting change in the Tremulous to inspire other moders or just to make a sapid conversation :D (but think it should be a little bit serious :wink: )


Anyone have a clue what he said? Cuz i cant read shit he said...

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2007, 11:43:37 pm »
He's making a topic where we can discus various mod ideas.
It can be a bit stupid, but he thinks we should be a bit serious.

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 05:05:16 am »
First Post:
Quote from: "Redsky"
I dont wont to spam  w8 another 'A NEW MOD IDEA" topic cos it is anding after errrm... few statement (saying something like 'its inpossible anyway') just a topic where u can wright anything that would be an interesting change in the Tremulous to inspire other moders or just to make a sapid conversation :D (but think it should be a little bit serious :wink: )

Quote from: "Redsky, edited by Techhead"
I don't want to spam with another 'A NEW MOD IDEA" topic. Because this post is ending after a few statements (saying something like 'its impossible anyway'), this just a topic where you can write anything that would be an interesting change to Tremulous. Post here either to inspire other modders, or just to make a stupid conversation. :D (But think it should be a little bit serious :wink: )

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Quote from: "Redsky"
just a sec ago i just imagined myself a 'Trem-Ancien Mod' humans dont have rifles and all that staff just bows, knifes, rocks and spears. w8 some kind of traps (i dont have idea of spawns yet:P)... Aliens will be slower and smaller maybe other bitmaps - build on floor only. Just like thay havent evolved yet:D
lol i know it would take looooooots of work - just an idea what do u think, any other ideas?

Quote from: "Redsky, edited by Techhead"
Just a second ago, I imagined a 'Trem-Ancien Mod.'
Humans don't have rifles and all that stuff. They just have bows, knifes, rocks and spears, as well as some kind of traps. (I don't have idea of spawns yet :P)...
Aliens will be slower and smaller, maybe with other bitmaps, but building on floor only. Just like they havent evolved yet. :D
Well, I know it would take a lot of work - but its just an idea. What do you think? Anyone have any other ideas?

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hay whats wrong? dont u have any nice ideas?  
wight something...

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Hey, what's wrong? Don't you have any nice ideas?  
Please write something...

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 12:49:47 pm »
... im sick of it, do you realy think that is sooo important to wright 'with' instead 'w8'. Why on this topic everyone wrights about how im stupid or retard (or not serious), hmm? Was It the topic?
If you dont like it than shouldnt you wright that? Its true im a noob so what is all about? And IM thinking SERIOUS of programing.
My idea was to make a place where all ideas come together... is that so stupid? Is that a reason to offend me? I thought u are nicer and more tolerant guyz but i learned my lesson now.

I would change all my posts to a more readable form but i guess it will be deleted anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2007, 01:15:53 am »
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... im sick of it, do you realy think that is sooo important to wright 'with' instead 'w8'.

I would change all my posts to a more readable form but i guess it will be deleted anyway.


Yes, it is that important.

You should do that.

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2007, 03:02:41 am »
Isn't w8 wait?
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2007, 05:51:50 am »
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Isn't w8 wait?


I thought that too. Obviously we were wrong, cuz an 18 year old would of course know.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2007, 01:17:10 pm »
could someone delete this topic becouse it has no point now. Even if there was someone who would want to write something intersting he wont do it now. x( Topic just a trash now.

To all who want to add something like others did:

YES, im a noob, yes its my first topic in english forum, yes my english is not perfet at all, YES i may by a little bit retard and not serious :P
So evrything was said now, you can close this topic.
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2007, 07:25:15 pm »
Don't take it to serious buddy, after a few flames, you learn from your mistakes and won't do it again. The community here is pretty nice (atleast, most of it) and i hope to see you again sometimes.

Cheers :)

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2007, 08:03:19 pm »
Don't take it to hard.
specify in your signature that you are not a native English speaker and take to time to construct meaningful posts with the best grammar and spelling you can manage. Also don't use abbreviations such as 'w8' and 'ur' as those are considered childish and they lower the communities opinion of your intellect.

It is acceptable to speak in vernacular but i doubt that you have a grasp of English sufficient to utilize vernacular.

Keep trying, if you've something to say don't let a limited grasp of English be a barrier. Also if you specify your native language and post what you can't translate in your native language (correctly) someone may be able to help you translate.

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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2007, 08:43:19 pm »
@redsky: Sorry we assume you are being lazy, rather than realize you are posting in a foreign language and using slang at the same time. :oops:

Anyway, I don't think a weak aliens vs. melee-weapon-using-Humans mod would be that terrible, but most of the current futuristic science-fiction based maps would be inappropriate, as would almost all Human structures. :-?

The Humans would need some ranged (yet low-tech) weapons like the simple and composite bow (with various types of arrows), javelins, a throwing stick (atlatl - for increased distance), a sling and etc., in addition to hand-to-hand weapons and armor like the sword, shield, helmet, perhaps battle-axe and mace, thrusting spear, pike, etc. :D

Default Human might have a sling and self (recurve) bow with 30 arrows. Humans could get better weapons from Ye Olde Armourer's Shoppe. :P

The Aliens would have to be mostly Stage 1 classes. :)

You could say the Humans ran out of power but managed to survive and utilize "Age of Muscle" technology. 8)

I'm reading a history of late Bronze Age warfare, which is why I find the idea to be interesting. :)

Drews, Robert. The End of the Bronze Age: Changes in Warfare and the Catastrophe ca. 1200 B.C. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Univ. Press, 1993 :wink:

P.S. There is a place for putting a location in your profile. Even if you don't want to be too specific, you could put something like "not an English-speaking country" and people would be a little more understanding. Also "8" sounds like "ate" in English. As in l8r (later) or gr8 (great). It does not sound like "ith", as in with. Hope that is helpful. By the way, what is your native language, and where are you located (if you don't mind saying so)? :D

P.P.S. If you didn't mind renaming the thread, I would recommend something like "New Mod Idea: Ancient Weapons" or "New Mod Ideas: Post Here!" or something like that. Note that many English-speaking gamers will draw a distinction between mod (a modification of original gameplay in any of a variety of ways) and mode (particular variety of gameplay such as Capture-the-Flag, Assault, Domination, Cooperative, Mission-Based, etc.). :P

Again, if you have a questions about how to express something in English, don't be averse to asking how to say something or prefacing it with "Sorry, English ain't my first/native/best/favorite language, BUT..."

Sorry if we came across like jerks. We are very defensive of the intelligibility factor, here in the Trem forums. Regular posters often flout these conventions, but only at the risk/peril/who-really-cares of flaming from others. :)

Welcome. Shall we discuss your Humans-with-melee-weapons idea? :D

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ckit: wand or magic trowel
adv ckit: athame (magic dagger)
blaster: sling with throwing-stones or staff or crook or pike or halberd or axe
rifle: recurve bow with small-game arrowhead
psaw: short/thrusting sword (wakazashi/poignard)
shotgun: thrusting spear (javelin)
lasgun: recurve bow with big-game arrowhead
mdriver: crossbow with iron-tipped bolt/quarrel (optional zoom)
chaingun: weighted (Asian-style) chain or ball-and-chain mace
prifle: composite bow with big-game arrowhead
grenade: ancient incendiary rockets
flamer: composite bow with flaming pitch & iron arrowhead
lcannon: long/slashing sword with mystic blast as secondary fire (katana/broadsword)

larmor: cuirass & greaves
helmet: magic helmet with warrior-sense
medkit: bag o' herbs or healing crystal
battpack: spare quiver
jetpack: hawkwings or angelwings or even demonwings or dragonwings
battlesuit: samurai/knight armor or just current battlesuit powered by "magick"

reactor: High King's Throne or Sacred Standing Stone or Screaming Rock
nodes: Cauldrons of Rebirth
turrets: witches' familiars (demon bats, rats, cats, etc.)
teslagen: mana field
armoury: ye olde armorer's shoppe
defcomp: Sacred Circle or witches' staff or Maypole or something
medistation: healing circle
repeater: Duke's Throne or saint's reliquary or smith's anvil

Aliens stronger than basis, maras and dretches would be pretty overpowered, but maybe goons would be OK (but no adv classes - basis, maras, grangers, or goons) and definitely no rants. (Unless you make the mystic blast really powerful, and give the magic dagger both building and weapon abilities. :P) Also, you could make it ninjas & samurai vs. aliens instead of wizards and warriors vs. aliens (in other words culturally-themed, Ancient Asian or Celtic or European Medieval or Bronze/Iron Age; or multicultural - future retro - if you prefer).

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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2007, 04:41:09 pm »
Thank you very much for bringing back my faith in peaple playing in Trem(and as well changing it) This mastake with 'w8' instead of 'with' realy supid one, i just learn english and french at once and some times i get confused.(8 in French sounds a little like 'with')


There are some nice ideas here, espetialy this 'Ye Olde Armourer's Shoppe' :D , Yes i was thinking about bows.
though i think talking just convert one weapon into another. All i want to say that kind of mod should change the gameplay significant way. So players feel it thay play in new game this time :)
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2007, 08:54:42 pm »
Quote from: "Redsky"
Thank you very much for bringing back my faith in peaple playing in Trem(and as well changing it)


Actually I am usually just a loudmouth and a jerk, but I felt that people were judging you harshly for the language barrier, and I like to just toss ideas around myself.

Quote from: "Redsky"
This mastake with 'w8' instead of 'with' realy supid one, i just learn english and french at once and some times i get confused.(8 in French sounds a little like 'with')


Oh, yes, I took only one year of French a long time ago, but it is something like huit, is it not? It makes me wonder what country you are in and what your native language is, but mystery is good for the soul.

Quote from: "Redsky"
There are some nice ideas here, espetialy this 'Ye Olde Armourer's Shoppe' :D


:D
Maybe just changing the skin of the current Armoury to brown and saying it works by "magick" would be enough? :P

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Yes i was thinking about bows.


Bows would definitely be a key component of strategy for the Humans as their chief remaining ranged weapons. Also, firing rates could be fairly fast for experienced archers, so they would still represent a somewhat constant threat. Archers would have to either be massed, or cover one another, or escorted by swordsmen or spearmen.
 
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though i think talking just convert one weapon into another.


For each current Human weapon, item or structure, I tried to suggest an equivalent "Age of Might and Magic" substitution.

Quote from: "Redsky"
All i want to say that kind of mod should change the gameplay significant way. So players feel it thay play in new game this time :)


It would be totally different. Humans would have to stick together. They would definitely camp until Stage 2. It might be fun to play, for practicing the introductory level Alien classes for new players. And truly grizzled veterans could prove that they don't need a lucicannon to beat the Aliens. They could do it with a stick. :P Painsaw rushers and shotgun dancers should be satisfied with the shortsword or light spear. Perhaps those should be the default Human weapons, sword and spear (maybe three javelins, for thrusting or throwing, as needed, and a shortsword). Greek hoplite in phalanx. :D Also, the helmet or light armor should include a shield. Cheers!

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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2007, 09:07:22 pm »
Just some clarification for you, player1:

The french eight (8) is spelt huit (afaik) but pronounced like the grain, wheat. Weet.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2007, 02:06:20 am »
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Just some clarification for you, player1:

The french eight (8) is spelt huit (afaik) but pronounced like the grain, wheat. Weet.


merci

Yeah that's what I remember. W33t. I learned that fact when I still had suitable memory capacity, so it was still stck in there. Thanks for the verification.

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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2007, 02:09:47 am »
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2007, 02:19:25 am »
yeah, that basically sums up my opinion for this mod idea:
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and yeah, I noticed that >_>
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2007, 05:47:18 pm »
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yeah, that basically sums up my opinion for this mod idea:
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and yeah, I noticed that >_>


Same.  :wink:  :-?
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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2007, 09:08:59 pm »
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yeah, that basically sums up my opinion for this mod idea:
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and yeah, I noticed that >_>


Same.  :wink:  :-?


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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2007, 11:15:08 pm »
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hrmf...:-?
I hated Rune anyway :roll:
well, you know me :P
I dig the thought experiments :D
it doesn't cost anything to extrapolate :)
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2007, 11:46:06 pm »
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