New Clan: Alpha Crash [AC]

[Waffles]

[AC] is a new clan and we're looking for recruits.

Here's the site:
{edited so I don't the paparazzi doesn't get to me}

Note: This is a North American clan.

[Raytray]

Good luck with the clan.

http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2291 is a good place to start off a new clan.

[Survivor]

This is about [AC] not about some thread diverter. Let it go or take it to off-topic people.

[Waffles]

What's this have to do with invictus? Anyway, invictus, I was going to let you into the clan earlier, but now when I think of it, you don't seem like a clan person. You upset a lot of players for some reason.

[GooglePleX]

good luck waffles

[Raytray]

This clan has been caught "cheating" with the invictus styled bot.

'[AC]doublethink'
 '[AC]Waffles[L]'
Were both on Painsaw with it.

http://www.dretchstorm.com/system/files/downloads/users/u51/demo0015_dm_69.zip

[Rabbitt]

Hey ray i watched your demo's and i see nothing of the sort wit them except thats a massive amount of kills in 8 minutes for 2-3 people to have.
Yea they killed a bunch of dretches with shotting barely any bullets but that doesnt make them cheaters.

[Plague Bringer]

How many bullets per dretch? Five or six? I'm sure people would be smart enough to pull off a few extra shots to make it look like a human's shooting if they were cheating.

[Rabbitt]

Ill have to watch it again.
They are standing in hall atcs and splitting dretches.
I believe they get 5-6 shots per dretch.
One of the shoots 2 bullets into a dretch and hes dead but the other had shot at it also.

Look at it for yourself.

[Raytray]

looks to me to be a fire bot.

when recticle goes over the target it shoots.

Which conservs shots. I havn't seen people do this up till now. earliest being invictus.

[Plague Bringer]

5-6 shots is most likely an auto shooter. 2 shots definetly is, unless you have very quick fingers.

[AppleJuice]

Hah yeah, looks to be the same story as Invictus.  Few days/1-2 weeks ago they sucked, and now they have 'good' aim.  Waffles also posted he was going to let Invictus into the clan, etc.  It also looks like autofire - it would have been better if you had taken a longer demo with them using other weapons, but this is pretty suspicious.  Also, if you notice - they can't really aim.  They're moving their crosshairs around wildly to find the bboxes of the dretches, perhaps waiting for the auto-fire to kick in. Another suspicious moment - during the very beginning of the demo, after he shoots the egg for a bit, he moves back, moves his crosshair down, then moves his crosshair back up to shoot the egg again.  However, while he is doing this, his crosshair happens to pass over a granger, and he immediately fires a single lasgun shot at it, hitting it.  He starts shooting the egg again, and only THEN notices the granger and starts shooting it.

Although this isn't undeniable proof, it looks to be enough.  This is a shame.

[Rabbitt]

Now i see what your saying Apple.
The egg and granger thing doesnt really offer to much cause if you notice he shoots ceiling a few times once hes backs up a bit and it shouldnt have cause there was no box to aim towards but right after he shoots the ceiling he shoots tat granger so maybe.

[AKAnotu]

that's a firebot
trust me

NOBODY fires like that, one or two bullets at a time, and only when the enemy is directly in the crosshairs

[Waffles]

Sorry everyone... that was my first time trying out the triggerbot doublethink gave me today.
Guess I should pack up and leave before you all run me out of town. D:

[Rabbitt]

Hey waffles honestly man you can shoot on your on.
I dont see why anyone wants to use a bot to play a game for them.
I hope you have not spread this thing around.

[Waffles]

I don't know why I was using a bot... maybe curious.
...and no, I would never spread it around. I'm not that much of a jerk.
As far as I know, doublethink got the source code from someone and made the only a copy. One of which I got. I'm sure he didn't spread it around since he may have ended up fighting someone else using his bot if he did that.

[Rabbitt]

Once again thank you for admitting you were wrong and we all hope tis thing doesnt spread any further.
As far as your clanmate i have a good feeling hes going to be removed from any scrim in which you intend to play.
That or there will be a spec for him or any other person from that clan.

[Survivor]

Can I take the time here in this topic to state a certain opinion in light of recent events concerning these cheats.

I am not a member of any clan nor will I be. But clans are made for fun and competition. Fun should not use cheats since it defeats the purpose of the game and in competitions it is doubly so since a competition won by cheats should be considered a tenfold loss for the clan which commited the act since a match where you win by cheating proves nothing.
To anyone who thinks they need to test these aimbots, outside of clanwars as well, remember that a clan's reputation is also based on the respect they get in the community. You do not need to test aimbots. Any half-decent player should recognize unnatural playstyles and uncanny aim or timing by the experience they have gotten. Anyone not on that level shouldn't bother with calling its use testing since they don't even know what to look for anyway.
While I am totally against even having one if any of you feel that you must test it do it on a private locked server with only people who know beforehand you are going to use it. This makes sure you don't get topics that accuse or suspect your clan of cheating. Because even though you might have admitted wrong you are still known to have cheated and as such prone to suspicion. And I cannot blaim anyone who does.