Author Topic: Griefing!!!! I'M SICK OF IT!  (Read 7323 times)

PillowFire

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« on: July 05, 2007, 04:59:00 am »
alright, I was just on a server called "the zubs" or something like that, everyone on the server kept pm spamming me and, crashing me so that i had to return to menu, it couldnt be stopped, when I tryed to kickvote, everyone f2'ed, when I tryed to tell the ADMINS they said they had no proof, even though everyone was well aware that many people were doing it, before that, one of em started harrasing me and then calling a vote like, "making threats", for no reason even though I did nothing, I want to know how to prevent spam crashing, and also, I would like to know when this noobishness will stop, about 70 percent of the servers I join have griefers on em, and no one does anything about it, many admins abuse their powers, I was banned for a year from one server, reason: "get the fuck out" the admin just abused his power, another server, was banned for 23 hours, because I used a full caps lock bind to post one message, I was muted, I started asking why next round, was banned and reason said  "go away".  This is total bs I need to know how to stop all this crap and all these noobs because frankly, I just want to play the game but it's very difficult when there are so many noobs.

Was banned from another server for "jettarding" even though I was a granger on the alien team at the time, I had to have a friend go on that server and tell them off for messing up with their admin powers and banning the wrong person. Was perma-banned from planeta moscow because they are total idiots on that server.


Oh here is a good one, I joined a server today, the second I joined, I saw a message in consol saying another person was perma-banned, reason was something incoherent, then  I was perma-banned shortly afterwards, reason "now" Idk, I did nothing at all, the admins were mass-perma banning everyone that joined, I am personally sick and tired of the noobs and idiots that fill this game to no end and ruin it for others.

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 05:02:59 am »
Get a better client that doesn't overflow like that does, and don't play on noob servers.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 05:03:44 am »
Alright, better client where though? I have the regular trem.exe client that I downloaded off the main page.

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 05:42:02 am »
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 08:57:18 am »
Thats not nearly enough to prevent real crashers from crashing you.
When I mean real crashers, I mean people capable of sending 200 pms per secs or so.
Now nothing can handle that and you will crash. Your best bet is playing on servers with flood protection(If the guy doesn't crash himself, he's gonna be muted for a hella long time :))

Now on the regard of noob admins, I advise you to PM applejuice or am|ne on the forum and tell them of what happened on the zub server, provide names if possible. You should probably look around and find whatever servers you got banned on for no reason and ask to be unbanned.

If you want stress free servers, go on boom boom, beergarden, clan servers that actually have a somewhat good rep, possibly sst if you don't mind the amount of people and the possible screen lag.(Seriously, only server I know who as an admin on 24/7, and if you're mad, they have a forum up just for you to go and complain to)

Servers to run away from would include s11 and non-named servers, possibly for the threat of noob admin, and mostly griefers. Dretchstorm as almost never any admins and there's always at least 1 aimbotter/griefer on it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 10:35:38 am »
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Servers to run away from would include s11 and non-named servers, possibly for the threat of noob admin, and mostly griefers.

You are welcome to visit our nameless server and experience real nazi admins!

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 10:58:29 am »
The last time I saw a griefer was years ago.  Granted I don't play as much as I used to, but really, what is everyone so pissed off about.  Play on real servers, problem solved.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 11:31:17 am »
If you are banned or kicked from a server for a stupid reason, chances are you don't want to play on that server anyways.

As mantra said, play on Beer Garden, Fragify (the original Boom Boom :) )or one of the other well known servers.

Operators and their admins can do whatever they want on their server, and on some servers they do.  Even on the good servers the admins will make mistakes (like banning the wrong slot number, etc) but then, that is human nature so it's really not a big deal.  The good servers usually have a forum you can ask to have the ban removed on.

Using TJW's Backport Client will save you from a lot of griefing too.   It gives your client a unique ID (which is just xxxxxxxxx with the standard client) and people are much less likely to think you are aimbotting and/or griefing when you use it.

Also, there is a lot to be said for idling in an empty server and seeing who joins to start a game.  You can experiment with base builds and/or base attack tactics while you wait.  You could also play on TJW's server.  It's a little different there, and you will need to turn on autodownloads, but it's usually a good crowd there with very experienced admins.

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 04:25:57 pm »
Sorry if I insulted you lava, I cannot put your server up as I don't myself play there. I don't play on european servers, or anyservers for that matter that give me higher then 80 ping, and personally, I'd like it if everyone did so too, maybe that way we'd see less 250+ ping on our servers. I'm pretty certain there are a number of great servers around the world, I just don't play on them.
And your admins weren't that bad before while I used to play on it >.>
You also banned 75% of the deconers in the game by yourself a while ago.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 05:15:03 pm »
I am sorry I could not help you, but everyone involved was denying it.  You were claiming multiple people were spamming you.  I was not about to kick everyone in the server just for you, as I knew most of them, and do not know you.  Spamming a bind in CAPS LOCK certainly did not help your case, either.

Now, if you could show me screen shots of specifically WHO was overflowing you, I would be happy to help you.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2007, 02:13:12 am »
why is this thread called griefing when the post is about bad admination
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2007, 04:18:10 am »
Because griefing is involved. (PM Spam)
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2007, 05:08:14 am »
he starts talking about pm spam

then he digresssinates towards bad admination for the entire rest of the thread

the only real griefing involved was the griefing on your server that you did nothing about :\
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2007, 03:56:18 pm »
Actually, the only real griefing was plaguing us with this thread. >_>

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2007, 05:52:12 pm »
Hi PillowFire,

Quote from: "PillowFire"
alright, I was just on a server called "the zubs" or something like that, everyone on the server kept pm spamming me and, crashing me so that i had to return to menu, it couldnt be stopped, when I tryed to kickvote, everyone f2'ed, when I tryed to tell the ADMINS they said they had no proof, even though everyone was well aware that many people were doing it, before that, one of em started harrasing me and then calling a vote like, "making threats", for no reason even though I did nothing.


I host the server 'The Zubs' that you speak of. I was away for a week and half, so I just had the chance of reading your post. I've experienced this flooding myself, and from what I can see, it is someone who binds private messages and repeatedly sends them to the point where the client can no longer request the data from the server, and will crash. To resolve this issue, I have completely turned off private messaging in my server. You should no longer be having this problem. As for the admins harrassing you, I should let you know when I left, there were 6 trusted admins, and when I got back, I found 58 admins (no joke) on my server. I have reset all the admins, and we're back to the original moderators we always had. Also, all bans have been lifted so (everyone) has been given a second chance.

Now, everybody else who don't know what the hell they're talking about, the admins have no way of finding out who is pm spamming. Someone can overflow himself, come back and say 'JoeBlow did it', and if we all followed your logic, JoeBlow would be kicked and banned even though there is no concrete proof to show he did it, which is what AppleJuice was trying to explain. I trust my admins, and I think they did the right thing by not banning/kicking whoever you claimed did it.

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Get a better client that doesn't overflow like that does, and don't play on noob servers


I don't know you, but you seem to spend most of your time on this forum since you have over 600 posts, so I can only assume you know what you are talking about, but I don't appreciate my server being called a 'noob server' because some low-life assholes with nothing to do were flooding people playing there. This could of happened on any other servers. On a side note the tjw backport (as of revision 823) does not fix this issue.

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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2007, 05:55:59 pm »
Server owner to the rescue!

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2007, 07:32:15 pm »
I seem to recall the thread started being involved in some sort of griefing activities on Fragify.


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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2007, 10:54:14 pm »
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This could of happened on any other servers. On a side note the tjw backport (as of revision 823) does not fix this issue.

Right on the latter but not the former. Get a game.qvm with flood protection and enable it. It's pretty mandatory from a security point of view.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2007, 05:11:47 am »
I use the latest Lakitu7 qvm (v4.16 I think), and I believe it has flood protection but not for private messages (the reason I think so is because when you use 'say' more than three times, it will ignore you for a few seconds, or is that my server just acting weird?). I will create a custom qvm sometime this week when I have time.

Thank you for reminding me, benmachine and Yarou.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2007, 06:11:55 pm »
go zubs!!!

yarou if that's real that's funny as hell

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ppl should just learn to hit ESC > Main Menu > Play > Refresh and move on...

@Am|ne: thx 4 restoring order, welcome back, hope you had a nice vacation, etc. cya on ur server <3 zubs (ping 45 LOL) :D

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Actually, the only real griefing was plaguing us with this thread. >_>

Is admination a real word?


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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2007, 06:22:09 pm »
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I don't know you, but you seem to spend most of your time on this forum since you have over 600 posts, so I can only assume you know what you are talking about, but I don't appreciate my server being called a 'noob server' because some low-life assholes with nothing to do were flooding people playing there. This could of happened on any other servers. On a side note the tjw backport (as of revision 823) does not fix this issue.

But patches do, patches as you can see in Yarou's post.

You may want to check out the High and Medium severity patches on Mercenaries Guild.
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/patches/
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2007, 09:43:24 pm »
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2007, 04:29:07 am »
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@Am|ne: thx 4 restoring order, welcome back, hope you had a nice vacation, etc. cya on ur server <3 zubs (ping 45 LOL) :D


Thank you :-)