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Started by beerbitch, July 24, 2007, 05:26:45 PM

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beerbitch

July 24, 2007, 05:26:45 PM
I posted this in another thread but thought it was worth mentioning in its own thread. What do you guys think is the percentage of linux vs windows tremulous clients that are playing regularly out there ?

QuoteHere is my radical solution. Ban windows clients. No DLL injection for you.

So we would have a lot fewer people able to connect to the servers and play, oh well.

If its not possible to do this in current code, it would not be so hard to figure out the running operating system connecting by its ip timestamp generation algorithm and plop that code into trem. nmap does this with its OS fingerprinting code and its opensource. We could steal that.

In addition to this, maybe implement a whitelist of GUID and username combination like admin.dat of allowed windows clients ?

http://insecure.org/nmap/osdetect/
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

mindfray

#1
July 24, 2007, 05:47:14 PM
Thats all fine and dandy if you want to kill off more than half the tremulous community. But I think that would be a bad idea.

Kill the community to get rid of aimbots hmmmmmm

E-Mxp

#2
July 24, 2007, 05:51:00 PM
No windows players??? :O

HELL NO!!! I wont buy linux, i love my windows xp, plz don't ban me!

Lakitu7

#3
July 24, 2007, 05:51:05 PM
OH BOY MORE LINUX ZEALOTRY THANKS FOR THAT.

beerbitch

#4
July 24, 2007, 05:53:16 PM
Hey, it was just an idea. You guys have a better one ?
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

tehOen

#5
July 24, 2007, 05:54:03 PM
yes dont let unfunny anonymous cowards in

beerbitch

#6
July 24, 2007, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: tehOenyes dont let unfunny anonymous cowards in

That works only when highly vigilant admins are on the server, plus now we have to deal with aimbot clients that can have a GUID.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

David

#7
July 24, 2007, 06:21:11 PM
I think its a great idea.
We could even make a live CD with linux and trem, just stick it in and watch it work.
Assuming we could get the drivers to works with out any user interaction, people might be surprised by how good there frame rate becomes.
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AppleJuice

#8
July 24, 2007, 06:24:47 PM
RADICAL AIMBOT SOLUTION: BAN EVERY1

THAT WORKS RITE??

U GUYZ GOT ANYTING BETTR??!!!
Currently: {&}AppleJuice

player1

#9
July 24, 2007, 06:42:48 PM
the peasants are revolting!

pitchforks, cudgels and torches by the Transylvanian moonlight...

just don't ban Mac users, plz

BULLSEYE@linux.be

#10
July 24, 2007, 06:48:58 PM
the best idea i have ever heard

get rid of those game addicts that dnt even know what linux is

ow yea the most linux systems ARE FREE

beerbitch

#11
July 24, 2007, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: AppleJuiceRADICAL AIMBOT SOLUTION: BAN EVERY1

THAT WORKS RITE??

U GUYZ GOT ANYTING BETTR??!!!

Thank you for your constructive and mature criticism Apple.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

Lakitu7

#12
July 24, 2007, 06:54:11 PM
Sorry, but it's no worse than your post.

beerbitch

#13
July 24, 2007, 06:56:48 PM
I want to reiterate my second statement about having a whitelist. Maybe require windows users to signup on your server website to get into the whitelist.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

beerbitch

#14
July 24, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: player1the peasants are revolting!

pitchforks, cudgels and torches by the Transylvanian moonlight...

just don't ban Mac users, plz

I had no idea I would start a flame war. I just wanted to throw the idea out there.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

player1

#15
July 24, 2007, 07:06:46 PM
j/k
as a PC switcher, I can now laugh at Windozers, since I am now t3h l33t Mac guy
any OS-based solution will inevitably cause screams of "unfair!"
but u did say it was a radical solution
:D
maybe it would be worth a try at t3h OPP server
but how many of ur clanmates are Windozers?
heck if Trem & Linux would be easily installable on this machine, I might even try it
just to be t3h ub3rl33t Linux dude :)

beerbitch

#16
July 24, 2007, 07:09:07 PM
I have a poll on my private clan forum to see how many are windows....

Its not a fair solution, but I've been trying to think of something, anything to get rid of the cheaters..... I used to play counterstrike before it got overrun with hax, and I would just hate to see Trem suffer a similar fate.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

rdizzle

#17
July 24, 2007, 07:14:57 PM
what we need is for someone to make a spec bot that detects insane kill whoring and then autospecs the suspect looking for things like 180 degree snaps and other aimbot clues (including the rediculous gretch lookup lock lol) and auto kicks aimbotters.

beerbitch

#18
July 24, 2007, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: rdizzlewhat we need is for someone to make a spec bot that detects insane kill whoring and then autospecs the suspect looking for things like 180 degree snaps and other aimbot clues (including the rediculous gretch lookup lock lol) and auto kicks aimbotters.

Now thats a good idea.
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

E-Mxp

#19
July 24, 2007, 10:34:57 PM
Quote from: [email]BULLSEYE@linux.be[/email]ow yea the most linux systems ARE FREE
:roll: Wow.... free.....

kevlarman

#20
July 24, 2007, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: beerbitchI posted this in another thread but thought it was worth mentioning in its own thread. What do you guys think is the percentage of linux vs windows tremulous clients that are playing regularly out there ?

QuoteHere is my radical solution. Ban windows clients. No DLL injection for you.

So we would have a lot fewer people able to connect to the servers and play, oh well.

If its not possible to do this in current code, it would not be so hard to figure out the running operating system connecting by its ip timestamp generation algorithm and plop that code into trem. nmap does this with its OS fingerprinting code and its opensource. We could steal that.

In addition to this, maybe implement a whitelist of GUID and username combination like admin.dat of allowed windows clients ?

http://insecure.org/nmap/osdetect/
first of all, ogc will run just as happily on *nix as it will on windoze, second of all there is no way to prevent someone from lying about their OS.
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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next_ghost

#21
July 24, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
Quote from: beerbitchIn addition to this, maybe implement a whitelist of GUID and username combination like admin.dat of allowed windows clients ?

Already working on it, stay tuned.
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Confess

#22
July 24, 2007, 11:08:09 PM
The majority of trem players use windows. Here is the stats from SST's website Forum:

Operating Systems Hits Percent
Windows 376437 79.5 %
Linux 59227 12.5 %
Macintosh 34995 7.3 %
Sony PlayStation Portable 1483 0.3 %
Unknown 1172 0.2 %
Sun Solaris 21 0 %
Unknown Unix system 19 0 %
OS/2 17 0 %
WebTV 15 0 %
BSD 5 0 %
 Others 5 0 %
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Dance Commander

#23
July 24, 2007, 11:20:10 PM
you can play tremulous on PSP?
'll kill you if you try me for my air-max 95s.
high like spaceships, fly like planes
get your robin hood on
put some pressure on the man

yetshi

#24
July 24, 2007, 11:39:35 PM


You can go to hell! You can go to hell and you can die!

beerbitch

#25
July 24, 2007, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: yetshi


You can go to hell! You can go to hell and you can die!
Right after I finish getting down with Mr. Slave !





O_o
Beerbitch - "Some days you're the pigeon, other days you're the statue"

kevlarman

#26
July 25, 2007, 12:02:03 AM
Quote from: ConfessThe majority of trem players use windows. Here is the stats from SST's website Forum:

Operating Systems Hits Percent
Windows 376437 79.5 %
Linux 59227 12.5 %
Macintosh 34995 7.3 %
Sony PlayStation Portable 1483 0.3 %
Unknown 1172 0.2 %
Sun Solaris 21 0 %
Unknown Unix system 19 0 %
OS/2 17 0 %
WebTV 15 0 %
BSD 5 0 %
 Others 5 0 %
wrong, the majority of sst players use windows. the statistics from this forum were posted a while ago. the plurality of players used linux (just barely leading windows iirc).
Quote from: Asvarox link=topic=8622.msg169333#msg169333Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
the dretch bites.
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|..d| #
|.@.-##
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n00b pl0x

#27
July 25, 2007, 12:37:29 AM
ban linux

linux am sux
will sort out my sig, or I will get banned.

HOW DO I SORTED SIG?

Captain Ventris

#28
July 25, 2007, 12:48:55 AM
Ban Vista users.  :wink:

Thorn

#29
July 25, 2007, 12:55:10 AM
Ban Poland.
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