Disable the goon pounce touch attack?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Let's try something. Disable the goon pounce damage. I know this is the goon's special ability, but it will end a lot of accidential teamkills, and you don't need measures to disable the quick pounce-chomp combination. But please, increase the attack width, because it is hard to hit with a goon, and it will be even harder.

[cp blast]

No.

[Lava Croft]

Let's just ignore you even more from now on.

Shit, I failed.

[DASPRiD]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

[tehOen]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

read the manual?

[/dev/humancontroller]

I mean, of course, allow the goon to chomp while pouncing.

One could use Tribes 2 style physics (pounce forward, and jump-jump-jump to minimize friction). This avoids teamkills, but gives nearly the same effect as the pouncing. So why not make it easier?

cp blast, why vote AND write?

Lava, you are totally useless. Did you know? I think you do, so why the post?

[benmachine]

No.

^ this.

[[Kcorp]Noobius]

just because you can't play for shit doesn't mean you have to come up with retarded ideas to make it easier for you to play, mkay pumpkin?

[temple]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

I always thought pounce was about locomotion, otherwise the dragoon is just a big target with no way to escape ranged attackers.

[DASPRiD]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

I always thought pounce was about locomotion, otherwise the dragoon is just a big target with no way to escape ranged attackers.

Like the Tyrant?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Noobius"]just because you can't play for shit doesn't mean you have to come up with retarded ideas to make it easier for you to play, mkay pumpkin?

Your retarded empty brain did not understand.

Having pounce damage makes killing easier than having to chomp manually. Therefore increase the attack width a bit, so that the goon will actually be worth 3 evos.

And it will not make your teammates angry with your TKing. For example, the dretchpunt was invented because of the goon pounce and tyrant charge.

[/dev/humancontroller]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

I always thought pounce was about locomotion, otherwise the dragoon is just a big target with no way to escape ranged attackers.

Like the Tyrant?

Uhm actually, it's not that the dragoon has low attack width, it's just that it's too large for its max health. So instead of increasing the attack width, maybe make the goon smaller a bit.

[[Kcorp]Noobius]

1. you can't play for shit ---- true
2. your ideas are bad ---- true
3. 2. is caused by 1.. ---- true

what didn't i understand?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Noobius"]1. you can't play for shit ---- true
2. your ideas are bad ---- true
3. 2. is caused by 1.. ---- true

what didn't i understand?

I don't understand what you're talking about. What does "playing for shit" mean? Do you think I suck? Is that it?

[AppleJuice]

If you are worried about TKs, play on servers with no pounce friendly fire, such as the Zubs server. Or, stop looking at aliens when you pounce into them. Two simple solutions.

[Iltama]

If you are worried about TKs, play on servers with no pounce friendly fire, such as the Zubs server. Or, stop looking at aliens when you pounce into them. Two simple solutions.

or become leet and start using mara + basi instead

[/dev/humancontroller]

I really don't worry about TKs, as I easily avoid them (I don't remember when I TKd like that the last time).
The goon thing was just a suggestion, what COULD be done. Guess noone likes it.
And yes, I prefer mara over goon.

[[insert name here]]

No, the sense of pounce IS to damage an enemy, not to jump on very quickly from one place to another.

I always thought pounce was about locomotion, otherwise the dragoon is just a big target with no way to escape ranged attackers.

Like the Tyrant?

Uhm actually, it's not that the dragoon has low attack width, it's just that it's too large for its max health. So instead of increasing the attack width, maybe make the goon smaller a bit.

This i agree. It's pretty reasonable and i always felt the size gap between mara and goon was big. This would tone down pouncing a little i guess and its way better than the no damage pouncing idea.

[Lakitu7]

1.2 has no ff on pounce/trample.

No ff on pounce/trample is also an option on servers running my qvm.
g_friendlyfireMovementAttacks I believe.

[yetshi]

dretch punt is because retards don't know how to get off the fucking floor.

id turn that shit off, they will learn real quick after getting ran the fuck over a few times.

[khalsa]

DevHC get's more retarded with every post. Why not just disable the goon?


Khalsa

[kevlarman]

Let's try something. Disable the goon pounce damage. I know this is the goon's special ability, but it will end a lot of accidential teamkills, and you don't need measures to disable the quick pounce-chomp combination. But please, increase the attack width, because it is hard to hit with a goon, and it will be even harder.

you do realize how that the chomp-in-mid-pounce is disabled on the majority of servers because it's rediculously overpowered in the hands of a good player? (and there is now a large knockback in addition to the pounce damage to further differentiate it from chomp)

[St. Anger]

Let's try something. Disable the goon pounce damage. I know this is the goon's special ability, but it will end a lot of accidential teamkills, and you don't need measures to disable the quick pounce-chomp combination. But please, increase the attack width, because it is hard to hit with a goon, and it will be even harder.

you do realize how that the chomp-in-mid-pounce is disabled on the majority of servers because it's rediculously overpowered in the hands of a good player? (and there is now a large knockback in addition to the pounce damage to further differentiate it from chomp)

I used to love when Beer Garden had no pounce damage. Goons are way more powerful without pounce damage.

[Odin]

Somebody ban /dev/humancontroller already.

[Paradox]

Or to get rid of pounce ff, use lakitu's patch.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Beer Garden does not have that anymore?
Well, you know, if I really want to do some patches, I'd make my own server and patch that. But I can't. I have 16kB/s upload speed. Lag alert!

Something like 18.2% agree, 28.7% comment sanely, 35.5% disagree, 51.3% just flame.
The conflict seems to be not between the the ideas (how to disable the quick pounce-chomp combination), but rather between one and other persons. Lava has some "friends", and he starts to flame. Their consideration is: if Lava is writing, then he is probably doing something right (bah, yeah right...). So they join up.

[benmachine]

No.

^ this.

^ this

(note that context has changed so this post is not wholly redundant)

[Odin]

Something like 18.2% agree, 28.7% comment sanely, 35.5% disagree, 51.3% just flame.

People are only agreeing because you look like you have credibility because you can code. That doesn't mean you're right.

It just means you're trying to code to gain respect in the community, while not really contributing at all.

Fuck off already.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Something like 18.2% agree, 28.7% comment sanely, 35.5% disagree, 51.3% just flame.

People are only agreeing because you look like you have credibility because you can code. That doesn't mean you're right.

You decide to think wether I'm wrong or just not agreed with. Either way, there's nothing wrong about being wrong, there's nothing wrong about not being agreed with. (Note: have you added the percentages together?)

It just means you're trying to code to gain respect in the community, while not really contributing at all.

Not contributing? Wrong. One guy said I code for respect, and the rest of the idiots in the world (like you) believed that. If there's someone who didn't contribute, it's you. Even if were true that I didn't contribute, the difference between us would be that you don't even LOOK like you're trying...