Ranking Power Or whatever its called Mod [Idea]

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

I've been thinking about this mod for a very long time and decided to post this idea on the forum

- How I get this idea?
I got this idea after playing Enemy Territory for quite some time

Lets say for example

3 ranking type for humans

Primary Weapon/Building Skills/Side Arm skills

0 Power

Only can start with rifle
only can build things in RC/Telenode/Mgturret/Arm
normal blaster


1 Power

allow starting with shotgun/rifle
can build all in 0 ranking with medistation included
blaster speed increase
<if all 3 is in 1 Power , stamina increases / larmour unlocked>

2 Power
allow starting with mdriver/lgun/shotgun/rifle
can build defense comp
blaster damage increase
<all 3 in 2 power , damage increase by 1.5x / hemlet unlocked>

3 power
allow starting with prifle n all others in 2 power
can build shield<take from tremx>
duel blaster
<all 3 in 3 POwer , ammo increase by 2x ammo/batt pak unlocked>

4power
allow starting with flamer
can build tesla
duel blaster speed increase
<all 3 in 4 power , allowing holding of 2 primary weapons , nOT DUEL / jet pack>

5 Power <MAX>
allow starting with lcannon
build delay decreaase to 5sec
duel blaster dmg 15
<all 3 in 5 power , unlocked battlesuit>

Aliens

Killing Status/Building Power/Evolution

0 Power
Starts with dretch/granger
allow build of all in S1 exclude barricade
normal

1 Power
allow start of lisk
allow build barricade / Battle Granger Allowed
speed increase

<Kill n Evo = 1 = adv lisk unlocked>

2 Power
allow start of mara
allow build trapper
damage increase

<Kill n Evo 2 = adv mara unlocked

3 power
allow start of goon
allow build booster
attack speed increase

4 power
allow start of adv goon IF evolution is at 4
allow build hive
higher defense

5 power
allow start of Tyrant IF evolution is at 5
allow trapper shot
posion attack forever

IF THIS MOD IS MADE / ACCEPTED
TREMULOUS's STAGE SYSTEM WILL BE CANCLED DUE TO THIS

if u dun like the word POWER , u can change it to whatever u wanted

NOTE!! EXPERIENCE POINTS IS A MUST!

lets say , nid build till 100 EXP to get to power 1 building meaning that the player must keep on building to get to 1 power ranking for building

u can set the amt of exp gained from builds/frags

as for side arm n primary wep , it depends on WHICH weapon they kill aliens using

for aliens evolution , u will have to kill to gain EXP , but 2x from killing status

meaning , Killing Status 0 -> 1 Needs 100 Exp
so , Evolution 0 -> Needs 200 EXP

[Caveman]

Dude, you really are a thick headed idiot.
If you want to mod tremulous so that the result is no longer true to the basic concept, that is called a conversion.
As such it has no place here.

Especially in the Mod Reviews & Releases part of the forum.

[Ubernoob's servent]

a nice idea cept if there is a really great player he can get rants always or if a noob is horrible at dretch but good at goon he must wait and do something else like build noobishly.But this is kinda streaching the concept of tremulous a little too far.My opinion

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

thats the idea , im trying to get the mod far away from the NORMAL trem be cuz i ve seen mods that r all RELATED to trem , i was thinking IF they could juz think out of the box

n i said im taking away Stage System cuz i really kinda dun like it

lets say

human s1 alien s3
 alien surely win

but if we use my idea

there r balance between teams , unless all r new clients to the server

but even if they r new , they can oso gain exp to get to higher levels

[==Troy==]

F2.

I do not feel like killing the same rant over and over again.

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

lol , same rant? , what if all at evo n kill 5?

[Caveman]

What if you just release the mod /conversion to be reviewed here?

[Redsky]

Dude, you really are a thick headed idiot.

wow, that was hard xD
Well, it seems that Caveman got his post count by slinging mud at all new ideas that come out...
Caveman, looking at how many posts you wrote i guess you have lots of enemys out there, on the forum. Nice job dude

But seriously talking(talking to forum moderators):
There need to be a new section of mod topics called:
"New Ideas" with rules as follows: -introduction ending with "this is my idea and i will work to make it come true, im not just throwing ideas"
-if theres nothing happening on the thread for longer than 1 month than it's deleted -if thread is just intentionally made illogical than it should be deleted -if thread was deleted than there should be no argument about it
That would, i think, save lots of work for people like Caveman :wink: (so thay could write some positive things), and clear  forum a little bit.
// forgive me for being such a smart aleck
About your idea DarkEnix i like it, but i dont know how it would work in real life(game ) keep on with it

[fmart]

nice

[Shadowgandor]

Dude, you really are a thick headed idiot.
If you want to mod tremulous so that the result is no longer true to the basic concept, that is called a conversion.
As such it has no place here.

Especially in the Mod Reviews & Releases part of the forum.

The only thing that changes is the stage system. Does that make a total different game??

[Caveman]

Its not only the stages, also the classes.
And that would change the gameplay in such a way that it in fact would be different game.

[Death_First]

I think its a good idea but i agree with caveman it branches way to far away from trem.  But if u really want to go ahead and make.  Some people might like the huge difference for a change

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

thx guys , except for caveman(for looking on my idea DOWN)

XD

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix"]thx guys , except for caveman(for looking on my idea DOWN)

XD

i can have it done , but it will take long as im still learning c language , unless someone is generous enough to help me

[Redsky]

- DarkEnix"]-[=AHs=]i can have it done , but it will take long as im still learning c language , unless someone is generous enough to help me

Dont look at me, im just doing graphics
(and actuly im looking for guy who promised to do codes for my project: Benmachine, where are you? are you working on  it or are you away from internet or just busy?)

[jal]

Dude, you really are a thick headed idiot.
If you want to mod tremulous so that the result is no longer true to the basic concept, that is called a conversion.
As such it has no place here.

Especially in the Mod Reviews & Releases part of the forum.

The only thing that changes is the stage system. Does that make a total different game??

It doesn't matter. Mods can be totally different from their base game. Or do I have to remind how Tremulous is originally a Quake3 mod?

[Caveman]

Ok, if i am wrong, please explain to me the difference between a conversion and a modification.

Up until now I was under the impression that a modification is exactly as it's name says, a modification of some minor aspect of the game.

[Taiyo.uk]

It's all academic for now; there is no separate conversion forum.

[HamStar]

Wouldn't noobs and unnamedplayer's get pwned by Alien power 1?

[Taiyo.uk]

P1 aliens ......... P0/1 humans

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[Shadowgandor]

lol

[firebladez212]

pfff, my idea from 2 months ago was better then this, same idea but just better suggestions

[Caveman]

pfff, my idea from 2 months ago was better then this, same idea but just better suggestions

firebladez212
Joined: 24 Oct 2007

aha??

[-[=AHs=]- DarkEnix]

yeah , thx caveman , i was juz wondering , 24 OCT 2007 , and 9 posts , i wonder , what idea u hav? , ok maybe U have , post me linky , i wan see

[Bullislander05]

- DarkEnix"]yeah , thx caveman , i was juz wondering , 24 OCT 2007 , and 9 posts , i wonder , what idea u hav? , ok maybe U have , post me linky , i wan see

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For one, this mod is not a terrible idea.  Yet, it's not good by any definition of the word.  The balance of the teams actually gets worse using your way.  Say someone really good, take BodyOrgan, Dracone, Me, or the countless other good players at trem, joins a server of people who maybe aren't as good.  Quickly, that person will rack up kills on the people who cannot get kills themselves (Because they're new to the game).  Soon, it will be 10 rifles vs 1 tyrant with a dretch escort squad.

Also, what are you going to do if you get to level 5, and start feeding?  I know if I got a luci + all that other stuff and died 2 times without killing anything, no more luci for me.  Are you just going to let someone who amazingly gets power 5 run around without a care for his health and kill the enemies?

And, regarding building, nobody builds every game.  It's a waste of time for many of us who depend on one (Maybe two) builder every game to create a base we can return to and thrive in.  If 10 people built, there would be 10 parts of 10 different bases making up one base, and it would fail.

Regarding that blaster thing.  NOBODY USES THE BLASTER!  Have you not noticed that?  The ONLY time a blaster would be used is if a human ran out of ammo and was returning to base.  In that case, the blaster is a feeble attempt to fight off a dretch chasing him.  It rarely works, and I'm pretty sure dual-wielding it won't help either.  And, even though dual blaster with 15 damage per shot will kill a dretch in 1 shot, NOBODY WILL EVER GET THERE.  If someone used nothing but blaster, I would quickly /callvote kick noob1 blastering.  And they would be gone.

Last thing, if you're going to propose an idea to the masses, please, please, take the time it takes to write it in correct English.  It puts you in a much more favorable position when people can understand what you are saying.  A start would be to add SOME punctuation (Periods, commas, capital letters to start sentences), and maybe spell check it.  Ever notice when you're writing a topic the misspelled words are underlined?  Try right clicking those and see what the suggestions are.

Can somebody write (I'll do it, even) a quick "How to post on forums" topic and have it stickied?  English is our common language.  Not AIMlish.

-Bull

[Shadowgandor]

- DarkEnix"]yeah , thx caveman , i was juz wondering , 24 OCT 2007 , and 9 posts , i wonder , what idea u hav? , ok maybe U have , post me linky , i wan see

What does post count have to do with ideas?

[==Troy==]

Soon, it will be 10 rifles vs 1 tyrant with a dretch escort squad.

Always wanted to have an escort of 10 dretches :lol: but actually no. Considering the lag due to player collision Id prefer to fight alone.

Regarding that blaster thing.  NOBODY USES THE BLASTER!  Have you not noticed that?  The ONLY time a blaster would be used is if a human ran out of ammo and was returning to base.  In that case, the blaster is a feeble attempt to fight off a dretch chasing him.  It rarely works, and I'm pretty sure dual-wielding it won't help either.  And, even though dual blaster with 15 damage per shot will kill a dretch in 1 shot, NOBODY WILL EVER GET THERE.  If someone used nothing but blaster, I would quickly /callvote kick noob1 blastering.  And they would be gone.

Dual blaster with 15 dmg each shot?? 30 dps?? VERY useful against averagely skilled goon or basi. Dretches will fall as well, if you know how to strafe.

I occasionaly use blaster as a backup weapon when falling back with no ammo and succeded in quite a few battles with dretches.

It is also a perfect weapon for "last 2 hp" situations. in about 1-3% of the cases a blaster shot instead of the rifle reload saved my life.

[Redsky]

It is also a perfect weapon for "last 2 hp" situations. in about 1-3% of the cases a blaster shot instead of the rifle reload saved my life.

Ill keep that in mind

[The MC Horton Crankfire]

Dude, you really are a thick headed idiot.
If you want to mod tremulous so that the result is no longer true to the basic concept, that is called a conversion.
As such it has no place here.

Especially in the Mod Reviews & Releases part of the forum.

CAVEMAN SMAAAASH!!

[hitchen1]

imo i dont think this would work,
wouldnt be too fair with a human having to fight a bunch of tyrants over and over
+ if u spawn as a goon or tyrant u could get stuck spawning