Author Topic: Microsoft vs. Linux - The Facts @ Microsoft.com  (Read 16165 times)

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Re: Microsoft vs. Linux - The Facts @ Microsoft.com
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2007, 12:04:24 pm »
Great, another OS elitism war.

Face it people, just because you like something, doesn't mean others have to.

I like OS X, but am forced to use windows. I find linux a pain to maintain a system. Others find windows a pain, and love linux, others still just like os x, its all a matter of opinion.

I agree Paradox, and once people begin to realize that it is my opinion that is important, then we'll be getting somewhere!

:P

Of the windows side, I too liked Win2k the most.  Stripped down and fast.  XP is when oprah started chunking up again.  Personally, I think Vista is the new ME.  Vista is the best thing to happen to alternative OS' since whomever decided to build activex into IE made that decision (anyone know that guy? we should probably lynch him!)  A little after winXP came out, I started seriously investigating linux as a desktop.  I could see the writing on the wall, XP was already a bloated up version of win2k, but it required more resources in return for a bubble gum interface that interferes with my work and I was pretty much forced to upgrade, though I felt absolutely NO REASON to (drivers on a new machine :( ) (My sentence structure is already mangled, so I feel the need to put something in parenthesis)

Since switching to Linux (Macs were too expensive for me when I started getting away from MS) I have not had a problem that I could not solve.  I haven't had to suffer with an old version of DirectX because the vid card manufacturer isn't releasing new drivers that are compatible with new versions of DirectX.  I haven't had to say goodbye to old games that will simply no longer run in the newest version of windows(in fact, some of those old games I've been able to get running on Linux \o/ .)  I haven't had to buy a new computer for the simple pleasure of loading up the newest version of the OS.  I haven't had to spend an hour reconfiguring my base install to make it remotely secure while also being usable.  I've spent less time dealing with other windows admins who say "why don't you just do this simple but mindlessly disconnected activity to fix your undocumented problem?  Sheesh, its on the 2nd page of the ms.com search if you just search technet for the process name and event ID."  I haven't had to spend countless hours scanning for virus' or adware or spyware (unless you count relatives machines ;) )  I always thought it funny when pure windows admins would tell me that I'm being silly, and that they don't have a problem with spyware or any of that.  Then I stop by their desk to find them running a virus scan or some such utility.  They don't have a problem cause they turn their machines into bricks for a couple hours out of every week while it defrags or scans for virus' or adware.  Hey, thats one more headache I don't have to deal with.  \o/

What else have I gotten?  Software.  Piles and piles and piles of software.  Software to do just about everything imaginable, and lots of things I hadn't imagined before.  Some of the software is really crappy, and some of it is amazingly good.  Its a mixed bag, but there is software that I would have to steal to run on windows.

Wow, I ranted.  Sorry.  I will disavow all knowledge of this post!

Lava Croft

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Re: Microsoft vs. Linux - The Facts @ Microsoft.com
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2007, 10:13:00 pm »
A small thought...

People seem to totally overlook the fact that most of the computer users in the world are not like us, they don't play games, they don't fiddle with settings and do not know about filesystems. These people want to press a blue-lit LED button, see a nice composited Windows screen, click on their picture, enter their 4-letter password and open Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. You can talk to these people for hours about how Linux is better, you can be completely correct, but it will not impress them. They have no interest in these matters.
As long as the mainsteam computer user has no deeper interest in computers, just like most people have no deeper interest in microwaves, they will never see the benefit of switching to a OS like Linux/GNU. They will only see obstacles, changes, problems.


Linux/GNU Will Eat Itself

Furthermore, the 'masterplan' to get every computer user in the world to use a 'open' OS like Linux/GNU is being seriously hampered by most of the Linux/GNU users themselves, who constantly feel the need to express the technical superiority of their OS, while blatantly ridiculing the OS the mainsteam (the people we want to join our cause, remember?) is using.
You do not have to be a genious to realize that ridiculing people usually does not relieve them of their conviction, it will only make it stronger.


Final Fantasies

Let's just let everyone live in peace and mutual respect, and if people want to use software you deem inferior, let them. There are far more important matters at hand in this world. Because we know that while you climb on your soapbox to preach about your OS, you are either stuffing your mouth with poison, typing on a keyboard that's so cheap because of child labour involved in its fabrication, and your old computer is piled up in China, ready to be disassembled by poor people, under inhumane working conditions. Try to solve those problems, instead of creating problems that do not exist anywhere but in the virtual world. A small, nerdy virtual world that is of absolutely no consequence.



PS: I intentionally did not mention Apple!

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Re: Microsoft vs. Linux - The Facts @ Microsoft.com
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2007, 10:52:59 pm »
Thread over.  Lava wins. :P

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Re: Microsoft vs. Linux - The Facts @ Microsoft.com
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2007, 09:56:41 am »
A small thought...

People seem to totally overlook the fact that most of the computer users in the world are not like us, they don't play games, they don't fiddle with settings and do not know about filesystems. These people want to press a blue-lit LED button, see a nice composited Windows screen, click on their picture, enter their 4-letter password and open Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. You can talk to these people for hours about how Linux is better, you can be completely correct, but it will not impress them. They have no interest in these matters.
As long as the mainsteam computer user has no deeper interest in computers, just like most people have no deeper interest in microwaves, they will never see the benefit of switching to a OS like Linux/GNU. They will only see obstacles, changes, problems.

Ya, true...

Linux/GNU Will Eat Itself

Furthermore, the 'masterplan' to get every computer user in the world to use a 'open' OS like Linux/GNU is being seriously hampered by most of the Linux/GNU users themselves, who constantly feel the need to express the technical superiority of their OS, while blatantly ridiculing the OS the mainsteam (the people we want to join our cause, remember?) is using.
You do not have to be a genious to realize that ridiculing people usually does not relieve them of their conviction, it will only make it stronger.

Not to mention they make it hard to actually configure their OS if you are a power user that's not used to their OS <!!>.  One screwup and you're stuck at the command prompt hoping to find whichever config file you screwed up.

Final Fantasies

Let's just let everyone live in peace and mutual respect, and if people want to use software you deem inferior, let them. There are far more important matters at hand in this world. Because we know that while you climb on your soapbox to preach about your OS, you are either stuffing your mouth with poison, typing on a keyboard that's so cheap because of child labour involved in its fabrication, and your old computer is piled up in China, ready to be disassembled by poor people, under inhumane working conditions. Try to solve those problems, instead of creating problems that do not exist anywhere but in the virtual world. A small, nerdy virtual world that is of absolutely no consequence.



PS: I intentionally did not mention Apple! Crash Think different ;D

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