Microsoft interested in buying Yahoo

[Lava Croft]

It might be smarter to first try to get clean drinking water to every human being on this planet. Sounds simple, it's not that expensive and it will save a whole lot more lives than expensive cancer research. Proper sanitation is another one.
You'd be surprised how many people die over the lack of something like a toilet.

[PIE]

Microsoft buying yahoo is not to my knowledge solving any world issues.
That kind of money can buy a lot of toilets.

[Revan]

Highly effective right now means about an 80% cure rate. While that is pretty good, that still means 20%, or 2 out of 10 people infected will die of cancer. I don't think there is anything wrong with investing money in trying to improve ways to cure cancer.

I should have made my point clearer:
Except in some extreme cases (yeah this is the disclaimer) it has been known to cure:
    Cancer of all types
    Ulcerative colitis
    Mental problems
    Lack of energy
    Every kind of lousy health I can think of

it is called water fasting followed by not eating foods that have had all there worth processed out of them


Now I will be called a treehugginghippeidiot but I am not oh well...


edit posted it before I was done writing

[+ OPTIMUS +]

Trem devs should be happy that we only demand 1.2 from them rather than the cure of cancer and toilets for the 3rd world countries :-D

[EDIT: as far as i know, cancer is not an 'infection']

[Revan]

[EDIT: as far as i know, cancer is not an 'infection']

Cancer is caused by the body being in an acidic state, this acid state is caused ENTIRELY by diet and environment

Dis-ease cannot get a foothold in an alkaline (oxygenated) body

[Lava Croft]

I should have made my point clearer:
Except in some extreme cases (yeah this is the disclaimer) it has been known to cure:
    Cancer of all types
    Ulcerative colitis
    Mental problems
    Lack of energy
    Every kind of lousy health I can think of

it is called water fasting followed by not eating foods that have had all there worth processed out of them


Now I will be called a treehugginghippeidiot but I am not oh well...

Anyone who believes in that nonsense should be shot, so they cannot spread this nonsense and actually make people believe in it. People die because they believe fasting and any other hippie nonsense will cure cancer.

[PIE]

I should have made my point clearer:
Except in some extreme cases (yeah this is the disclaimer) it has been known to cure:
    Cancer of all types
    Ulcerative colitis
    Mental problems
    Lack of energy
    Every kind of lousy health I can think of

it is called water fasting followed by not eating foods that have had all there worth processed out of them


Now I will be called a treehugginghippeidiot but I am not oh well...

Anyone who believes in that nonsense should be shot, so they cannot spread this nonsense and actually make people believe in it. People die because they believe fasting and any other hippie nonsense will cure cancer.

To each their own. If it ends up hurting the person that does it and no one else then what does it matter to you. Save your bullets.

In my post before this i was trying to allude this topic is getting off topic and to make another topic if you want to start talking about how to save to world or who is a hippie etc, especially if you want to flame everyone for being a hippie or thinking differently than you.

[Lava Croft]

This has nothing to do with flaming anyone, this has to do with some complete moron saying you can cure cancer by water fasting. As a person who is from all sides confronted with cancer, this agitates me to the point that I really want to smack him in the face for spreading such utter nonsense. There is zero scientific proof for his 'theory', as is the case with just about any 'alternative cure' for cancer.

What's even worse, is that people who are deadly sick, gladly grab hold of anything that might alleviate their illness, even if in the back of their head they know it's nonsense. This is criminal, and should be fought with all strength one can muster.

Thinking differently is different from spreading lies.

[+ OPTIMUS +]

I am sure that Lava is right, so if an UnnamedPlayer is having a deadly cancer and after some months of playing trem finds the forums, signs in, and he clicks on the Ms VS Yahoo topic sooner or later, won't be misleaded with such wierd  theories... <.< :-D

At the same time i will not fight against the idea that if anything you consume, inhale, see or smell can cause cancer, so full !ban environment is the best way to avoid any lethal stuffs.

[kozak6]

Erm...hate to interrupt...

But Yahoo didn't bite.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9cE_gI-aemyNxZQb7YOBC3rsNlQD8UN2QC01

[Revan]

This has nothing to do with flaming anyone, this has to do with some complete moron saying you can cure cancer by water fasting. As a person who is from all sides confronted with cancer, this agitates me to the point that I really want to smack him in the face for spreading such utter nonsense. There is zero scientific proof for his 'theory', as is the case with just about any 'alternative cure' for cancer.

What's even worse, is that people who are deadly sick, gladly grab hold of anything that might alleviate their illness, even if in the back of their head they know it's nonsense. This is criminal, and should be fought with all strength one can muster.

Thinking differently is different from spreading lies.

Why don't you go read information about it first? or does your admin power grant you omniscience?

And if you want to talk about scientific proof, then I will talk about that - just let me know if you want your theories crushed.


To OPTIMUS:
I don't mean that you become a impenetrable bubble, but eating food that has had every chemical in existence sprayed on it then burnt up in a pasteurizer isn't healthy


p.s. I would like someone to engage me in a LOGICAL argument instead of pulling out the name book

[Lava Croft]

Why don't you go read information about it first? or does your admin power grant you omniscience?

I am granted a family full of cancer patients, I have not only read about your retarded theories, I have actually seen multiple patients undertake them, because they were desperate and dying.

And if you want to talk about scientific proof, then I will talk about that - just let me know if you want your theories crushed.

Scientific proof is best done in practice and close observation. Since I have observed water fasting treatment on at least 7 cancer patients, from close by, for a prolonged period, I can tell you that the theory is utter nonsense.
Because my own experiences with this are probably hardly any proof to you, any sane oncologist can also tell you this.

To keep it really, really simple: The fact that apples are good for you doesn't mean they cure cancer.

[Kaleo]

Erm...hate to interrupt...

But Yahoo didn't bite.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9cE_gI-aemyNxZQb7YOBC3rsNlQD8UN2QC01

DENIED!

[Revan]

Why don't you go read information about it first? or does your admin power grant you omniscience?

I am granted a family full of cancer patients, I have not only read about your retarded theories, I have actually seen multiple patients undertake them, because they were desperate and dying.

And if you want to talk about scientific proof, then I will talk about that - just let me know if you want your theories crushed.

Scientific proof is best done in practice and close observation. Since I have observed water fasting treatment on at least 7 cancer patients, from close by, for a prolonged period, I can tell you that the theory is utter nonsense.
Because my own experiences with this are probably hardly any proof to you, any sane oncologist can also tell you this.

To keep it really, really simple: The fact that apples are good for you doesn't mean they cure cancer.

Then I apologize for insinuating that you knew nothing, but having said that you wont convince me either that drugs are the answer. (and I can demonstrate the errors in the scientific method)
truce? 

[Lava Croft]

The speed with which you take back your ridiculous statements amazes me.
The drugs you refer to are a proven method to combat cancer. Yes, they might be bad for you, and yes, they might destroy much more than just your cancer. But at the moment, until we have devised technology to 'fix' the mutated cell receptors, we will have to make do.

About that truce, never in my life.

[+ OPTIMUS +]

About that truce, never in my life.

wonderful oppurtunity to change your avatar into a battleflag for a higher purpose than the current childish attention whoring.

[Revan]

The speed with which you take back your ridiculous statements amazes me.
[.....]
About that truce, never in my life.

Forget it, I apologized for being mean and then you keep attacking.
This Means War.

edit:
I hereby declare war on the entity Lava Croft and all its allies

[Revan]

btw: How many posts do I need till I can smite you?

[Lava Croft]

wonderful oppurtunity to change your avatar into a battleflag for a higher purpose than the current childish attention whoring.

Suck it down.

The only one being the attention whore is you, constantly directing attention to my avatar.

[EDIT] typos

[NiTRoX]

STOP DELETING MY POSTS and

[mooseberry]

Seriously, this has turned into the most immature discussion I think I have ever seen.

[NiTRoX]

The German (and Austrian) postwar criminal code makes the public showing of the Hakenkreuz (the swastika) and other Nazi symbols illegal and punishable, except for scholarly reasons. It is even censored from the lithographs on boxes of model kits, and the decals that come in the box. It is also censored from the reprints of 1930s railway timetable published by Bundesbahn. The eagle remains, but appears to be holding a solid black circle between its talons. The swastikas on Hindu and Jain temples are exempt, as religious symbols cannot be banned in Germany.

A German fashion company was investigated for using traditional British-made folded leather buttons after complaints that they resembled swastikas. In response, Esprit destroyed two hundred thousand catalogues.[45][46]

A controversy was stirred by the decision of several police departments to begin inquiries against anti-fascists.[47] In late 2005 police raided the offices of the punklabel and mailorder "Nix Gut Records" and confiscated merchandise depicting crossed-out swastikas and fists smashing swastikas. In 2006 the Stade police department started an inquiry against anti-fascist youths using a placard depicting a person dumping a swastika into a trashcan. The placard was displayed in opposition to the campaign of right-wing nationalist parties for local elections.[48]

On Friday, March 17, 2006, a member of the Bundestag Claudia Roth reported herself to the German police for displaying a crossed-out swastika in multiple demonstrations against Neo-Nazis, and subsequently got the Bundestag to suspend her immunity from prosecution. She intended to show the absurdity of charging anti-fascists with using fascist symbols: "We don't need prosecution of non-violent young people engaging against right-wing extremism."

On March 15, 2007, the Federal Court of Justice of Germany (Bundesgerichtshof) reversed the above-mentioned verdicts, since the crossed-out symbols were "clearly directed against a revival of national-socialist endeavors", hereby settling the dispute for the future.[49] [50] [51]

The relevant excerpt[52] of the German criminal code reads:

§ 86 StGB Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations

(1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda:

1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party; […]

4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. […]

(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes. […]

§ 86a StGB Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations


(1) Whoever:

1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (§ 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in § 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or

2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting. Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto. […]

[mooseberry]

I think he's Dutch or something.

[NiTRoX]

Ya feexed it

[Lava Croft]

I have not removed any posts?

Also, if any law apply here, it's US law. US laws do not prohibit showing off swastikas or penguins.

[mooseberry]

I have not removed any posts?

Also, if any law apply here, it's US law. US laws do not prohibit showing off swastikas or penguins.

Actually while it is not technically illegal here, the posting of penguins is generally frowned upon my many people.

[Revan]

Lava I am sorry that your family has cancer but you have yet to logically attack my posts
here is an example of an abusive ad hominem fallacy:
Joe Smith is a drunk, so whatever he says is false.
or the reverse: John Doe is rich, listen to him

OR:
Revan thinks water fasting is a good idea, therefore he is a hippie (could be true -- isnt), therefore he is wrong (fallacy)


Here is another type of fallacy:
A black cat crossed my path, I fell and broke my leg, therefore the cat did it

OR:
Joe Smith has cancer and got chemo, the cancer went away for a while, therefore the chemo did it (maybe it did, maybe not)


Again I am not accusing you of not caring for your family or anything like that


edit: typos

[Revan]

And incase you didnt think about it:
Joe Smith has cancer, he water fasts, the cancer goes away, so the fast did it (fallacy)

ALL empirical research is fallacious, including the scientific theories you cling to so dearly

Here is an example of asserting the consequence given by Bertrand Russel:
If bread is a stone and stones are nourishing then this bread will nourish me
This bread does nourish me therefore it is a stone and stones are nourishing

OR:
If chemo will drive away cancer for a while and Joe Smith (has cancer) gets chemo then he will be cured (for a while)
Joe did have cancer and got chemo and the cancer went away THEREFORE chemo cures cancer

this argument is formally fallacious, but is at the root of almost all scientific research
the other argument is:
Over the past 10 years I have counted 10,000 swans
All of those swans have been white
therefore swans are white

this too is a fallacy (incomplete induction)

[Atom Eve]

I just want to let you know that, as a person who loves natural sciences and chemistry as much as life itself, reading your posts makes my head hurt.

[Lava Croft]

I just want to let you know that, as a person who loves natural sciences and chemistry as much as life itself, reading your posts makes my head hurt.

Just wait until he gets cancer himself and he tries to cure it with water fasting.