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Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« on: February 21, 2008, 12:39:05 am »
Hey, I read a couple of good stories (coincidentally, about programming) recently, and thought I'd post about it here, if anybody wants to discuss them. Post about stories you liked/loved/read recently/always wanted to see made into a movie. Not so much for discussions of SF novels, movies, comics, videogames and etc., but more like storytime book club, for people who enjoy the short form. OK, I'll go first, obviously...

The two stories, and the anthologies they were published in:

The Lustration, by Bruce Sterling

from Eclipse One, Jonathan Strahan, ed., San Francisco 2007 Night Shade Books

When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth, by Cory Doctorow

from Year's Best SF 12, David G. Hartwell & Kathryn Cramer, eds., New York 2007 HarperCollins/Eos

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 12:56:04 am »
Science fiction short stories?
My favorites include:
Robert A. Heinlein's various short stories, Spider Robinson's short stories, and of course, the works of Philip K Dick.
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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 05:39:09 am »
I found the works of HP Lovecraft tremendously entertaining.

They are in the public domain, so you can find them online if you look around, I think.

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 08:42:20 am »
Yeah.. Lovecraft does have some good stories, though they aren't really scifi.
I suggest not getting 'Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre' though.. its a horrible collection.
They mostly follow the same patterns and they get pretty boring.

As far as sci-fi
Heinlein is usually a win. If you are talking sci fi short stories you can't leave out Asimov though.
I tend to read full length novels instead of short stories however.

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 08:47:08 am »
Alfred Bester's "Virtual Unrealities" is by far the best.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 12:22:03 pm »
I forgot all about Asimov's robot stories.
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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 03:24:00 pm »
Anselm Audley's Aquasilva Trilogy. It's been quite a while since I read it, but it can best be described as SF with a heavy dose of fantasy, written by a prodigy.

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 03:28:57 pm »
I forgot all about Asimov's robot stories.

Forget the robots, read the Foundation series

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 04:07:55 pm »
For something other than the usual suspects, try:

Thomas Disch's Fun with Your New Head (his novel Camp Concentration is one of the best SF books ever written, although it isn't all that well known)

J.G. Ballard's War Fever

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 04:15:32 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 06:20:01 pm »
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Silent in Gehenna is a great story.

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 12:52:35 am »
I forgot all about Asimov's robot stories.

Forget the robots, read the Foundation series
Foundation Series is a series of novels. Almost all of Asimov's robot stories were short stories, which we are talking about here. The "Robots and Murder" Trilogy were novels, as was "Robots and Empire." Other than that, all were short stories or collections thereof.

Philip K Dick was probably the most prolific SciFi author when it came to short stories. Ever.
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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 01:07:04 am »
*Completely agrees with techhead.. Phillip K Dick was the only one who made me read 6 full books in 1 week

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 01:19:21 am »
Dick wrote 121 short stories, many of which appeared in science fiction magazines. Not to mention his novels, all 43 of them, 3 of which have been lost to the annals of time.
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 01:21:10 am »
PKD was the only American SF writer that Stanislaw Lem had any real respect for, according to what I've read. PKD was a brilliant writer, one of the best. I devoured a lot of his stuff as a kid, and need to go back and re-read it all. Some of my other favorites from the 50s social SF era would include Robert Sheckley and Harlan Ellison.

Are you guys reading any new SF? Read any good books lately?

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2008, 03:51:49 am »
Philip K Dick was probably the most prolific SciFi author when it came to short stories. Ever.

I believe Gene Wolfe has over 200 published short stories, but who's counting. :)

Dick is great in a pulp sort of way. He wrote to make money to live, and because of this, he pumped out fiction like a machine. He didn't agonize over words or spend a decade on a single novel, like other writers. Although he is one of my favorite writers, none of his individual novels are what I would consider truly great.

Are you guys reading any new SF? Read any good books lately?

I've been trying to find good new SF. I really, really liked Chasm City by Alistair Reynolds, and Quarantine by Greg Egan will absolutely blow your mind.

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Re: Science Fiction Short Story Readers
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2008, 12:33:13 pm »
If you enjoy novels, try the work of Iain M. Banks. He's written a few stories, too. The Culture short stories can be found in a book named State of the Art.

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2008, 01:49:03 pm »
Since I was a kid I've been a fan of C. J. Cherryh.  I've never been a big fan of her fantasy books (or any fantasy books really), mostly just hard sci-fi, I love all of her stories in the Union-Alliance world and have read most of them 2 or 3 times.  Cyteen was the first of her books that I read, I quickly consumed the other 2 in this trilogy.  Well worth it.  Downbelow Station was probably my favorite though.

The Reality Dysfunction series is really good.  Fair warning though, it continues through the The Neutronium Alchemist series and into The Naked God series.  Had I realized that the first book of this trilogy, was actually the beginning of a three trilogy trilogy adding up to something around 5500 pages, I probably would not have read it.  Once I started though, I read them all one right after the other, and I gotta say, someday I'll read them again.  Definitely worth it.  Creative as hell, and he keeps the story lines moving.  Partly due to the length and partly due to the story, I felt a little insane having read it.  Hmm, how many on my bookshelf until there's an opening?

After reading all of that, I looked for other work by Peter F. Hamilton and found Pandora's StarThat was a good read.  This guy must be insane, cause his idea's are some of the more unique and interesting.

Ever bought an album, and thought it was so good that you didn't want to buy anything else by that artist, afraid that it would change the perfection you see in their original work?  That's how I feel about A Fire Upon the Deep.  As soon as I finished it, I went out and bought A Deepness in the Sky and I still haven't read it.

Ok, a grand total of none of them are short stories.  I pick up the Asimov mag and some of the others for short stories.  Iain M. Banks looks interesting, I think I'll look him up when I finish my present series, Titan which is pretty good so far, but I'm only about half way through the first book.  Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always looking for new authors to read :)

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2008, 12:45:21 am »
Haven't read much by either Vernor Vinge or Peter F. Hamilton. I'm going to read all of Banks's Culture novels in the next year or so, if I get the chance (they're being reissued, staring with Consider Phlebas, in March). Maybe I'll finally take on the Hamilton stuff after I finish that project.

This is the anthology I'm currently reading.

Have any of you guys read much Charles Stross? Really good stuff. Highly recommend his short fiction (I haven't read any of his novels yet).

I also really enjoy Michael Swanwick. Since the topic has turned to SF novels as well as stories, I'd like to recommend Stations of the Tide.

Neal Stephenson is also quite good. I read Snow Crash and The Diamond Age. Both were pretty good.

Any short story readers out there, or do you guys prefer novels?

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2008, 12:46:57 am »
I read a lot of science fiction,  but mainly more full novels, not as much short stories...
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2008, 12:52:32 am »
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2008, 08:31:05 pm »
His Dark Materials Trilogy by Phillip Pullman

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2008, 12:47:09 am »
I keep hearing recommendations on Hamilton, so I guess I'm going to give his epic stuff a try. My favorite SF epic is the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. Even people who dislike SF would love it. It has the best characters of any SF I've ever read.

Charlie Stross belongs with a group including Cory Doctorow and Ian McDonald, in my opinion. They all write in what I'd call hyper-cool style. You may love it, or, like me, find it pretentious and really off-putting. Just a warning. I'm fine with short stories by those guys, but I can't stomach a whole book written that way.

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2008, 01:20:33 am »
Overall, I have to say the Ender's game series and shadow subseries are some of the best SF books I have ever read. Orson Scott Card creates vivid characters with real personalities and developments.
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2008, 03:07:15 am »
I keep hearing recommendations on Hamilton, so I guess I'm going to give his epic stuff a try. My favorite SF epic is the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. Even people who dislike SF would love it. It has the best characters of any SF I've ever read.

Charlie Stross belongs with a group including Cory Doctorow and Ian McDonald, in my opinion. They all write in what I'd call hyper-cool style. You may love it, or, like me, find it pretentious and really off-putting. Just a warning. I'm fine with short stories by those guys, but I can't stomach a whole book written that way.

I'm going to have to check out Dan Simmons, too. I keep hearing about him as well as Peter F. Hamilton. If you like epic novels, be sure to try Iain M. Banks.

I would include Paul DiFillipo in that list of the hyper-cool writers. I wondered whether I could stomach a whole book by Stross for just that reason. His stories are so cool, they're almost too cool.

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Overall, I have to say the Ender's game series and shadow subseries are some of the best SF books I have ever read. Orson Scott Card creates vivid characters with real personalities and developments.

Orson Scott Card is another novelist I haven't checked out. He was so popular for a while it was almost off-putting. Maybe in about four years from now (after I reread all the Iain M. Banks, then check out Hamilton and Simmons). :)