Author Topic: What's worse, cutting or starving? (Read 13893 times)

Shadowgandor · « **on:** March 04, 2008, 02:15:55 pm »

Had a discussion with someone I know, not going to call it a he or she, it's just the subject: The subject stopped cutting and went over to not eating (anorexia, mental disease). The subject said cutting was worse then starving, but I personally think starving is worse. Note: I do not think cutting is good either

What do you guys think?

ps: No, I do not cut or starve myself in any way. I was just wondering what people think about it.

pps: Sorry if I'm breaking any rules or anything. It's not a personal life story or anything, just a question about a serious thing

+ OPTIMUS + · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2008, 02:40:26 pm »

Rabbitt · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:04:41 pm »

Dude get better friends cause this is like the 12th "friend" thats either cut/starved/molested/burned themselves.
Seriously i understand you wanna help them but come on Dr.Phil you cant help them more then they want it.

Shadowgandor · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:22:54 pm »

Quote from: Rabbitt on March 04, 2008, 03:04:41 pm

Dude get better friends cause this is like the 12th "friend" thats either cut/starved/molested/burned themselves.
Seriously i understand you wanna help them but come on Dr.Phil you cant help them more then they want it.

Who says they aren't the same person?

Edit: And where did I say I wanted to help her? I mean, I do but that's not the subject of this topic.
And yea, just call me [Z|R]Dr.phil

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:32:33 pm »

Anyone who feels the need to self-harm urgently needs the help of a psychiatrist, whether the self-harm is in the form of starvation or cutting is irrelevant.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:45:27 pm »

You could try cutting yourself open with a sharp piece of food.

your face · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2008, 04:16:04 pm »

LOL, frozen pizza!

Shadowgandor · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2008, 04:20:16 pm »

Du pain anyone?

Sorry, couldn't resist it

player1 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2008, 06:24:49 pm »

Not having the urge to injure yourself in the first place?

Priceless.

Seriously, if you want to hurt yourself (or your friend wants to hurt herself), it is a cry for help. Real, professional help. There are many societally approved ways of injuring one's self that seem less direct. Might I recommend extreme sports, organized religion, or a steady diet of processed food and concentrated toxins? Perhaps a brief stint as a "dancer" might restore your friend's sense of perspective. At least it's a more profitable way of dealing with the issue than cutting and starving, and I'm sure she'll find many fellow travelers among the exotically-inclined (now that she's lost all that weight from starving herself and gained all that attention from mutilating herself). Perhaps a role model is needed. Britney Spears? Seriously, get her some help. Don't feed the trolls (even the RL trolls).

Lava Croft · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2008, 10:02:54 pm »

I think hurting yourself just means you are a underachiever. Make it to the top and just kill yourself.

player1 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2008, 10:15:55 pm »

I must applaud a sentiment so concisely spoke, yet caution the weak-minded as to the efficacy of this practice.

zybork · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2008, 02:26:59 am »

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What's worse, cutting or starving?

Sometimes I think some people live too well. They know no hunger, no fear for their life, no opression, nothing - they do not suffer. And because they do not suffer, they suffer the absence of suffering.

Maybe those people should be moved to a 3rd-world-country, then they would know what real problems are and stop with that bullshit.

mooseberry · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:03:15 am »

Quote from: zybork on March 05, 2008, 02:26:59 am

Maybe those people should be moved to a 3rd-world-country, then they would know what real problems are and stop with that bullshit.

And what die of hunger instead? Ya great idea...

Lava Croft · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:09:16 am »

It's the typical misconception of a short-sighted Westerner to say that real problems are in 3rd-world countries, as opposed to 1st-world countries.

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:40:10 am »

Most first world folk won't experience first world problems until they've had to endure the third world.

Annihilation · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:50:30 am »

WHY DOES THE SECOND WORLD ALWAYS GET LEFT OUT?

Rabbitt · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2008, 05:57:29 am »

Quote from: Annihilation on March 05, 2008, 05:50:30 am

WHY DOES THE SECOND WORLD ALWAYS GET LEFT OUT?

Amen brotha !

Kaleo · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2008, 06:17:52 am »

Quote from: Annihilation on March 05, 2008, 05:50:30 am

WHY DOES THE SECOND WORLD ALWAYS GET LEFT OUT?

Please define second world...

Ie. Examples

ODDity · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2008, 06:55:47 am »

Four Worlds
After World War II the world split into two large geopolitical blocs and spheres of influence with contrary views on government and the politically correct society:
1 - The bloc of democratic-industrial countries within the American influence sphere, the "First World".
2 - The Eastern bloc of the communist-socialist states, the "Second World".
3 - The remaining three-quarters of the world's population, states not aligned with either bloc were regarded as the "Third World."
4 - The term "Fourth World", coined in the early 1970s by Shuswap Chief George Manuel, refers to widely unknown nations (cultural entities) of indigenous peoples, "First Nations" living within or across national state boundaries.

These, "2nd world" countries include Russia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

I have nothing on topic to add Im afraid, although i think your friend could use some help and sometimes sympathy only rewards that type of behaviour, enforcing it as a useful tool for attention.

PIE · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2008, 06:27:21 am »

Quote from: Shadowgandor on March 04, 2008, 02:15:55 pm

Had a discussion with someone I know, not going to call it a he or she, it's just the subject: The subject stopped cutting and went over to not eating (anorexia, mental disease). The subject said cutting was worse then starving, but I personally think starving is worse. Note: I do not think cutting is good either
What do you guys think?

Anorexia is worse. Can cause developmental problems and all kinds of other stuff including a deteriorating mental state.
I knew someone who went through both myself.
Sounds like you just need to convince this person to exercise.. it takes care of both issues and is good for you. That isn't always easy.. but either way the person you know probably has some serious self esteem issues. Other people may make them feel better for a while but ultimately if they don't change the way they think of themselves its just going to create more obstacles.. exercise helps. One thing I learned though.. you can't fix the problems for them no matter how much they may want you to.

Quote from: Shadowgandor on March 04, 2008, 02:15:55 pm

pps: Sorry if I'm breaking any rules or anything. It's not a personal life story or anything, just a question about a serious thing

Personal life stories are not against the rules.

+ OPTIMUS + · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2008, 09:56:25 am »

excuse me guys, but what does "CUTTING" exactly means is this particular case...? you mean that the dude is occasionally cutting his wrists with a blade?

yesterday in the radio they said there is a "new" type of mental disorder similar to anorexia, it's called drunkolepsia. it's when you are not eating but drinking alcohol only.
well, if i'm forced to choose, I'd prefer that.
thinking about my past years i'm sometimes falling into the cathegory <.<

Atom Eve · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2008, 01:16:58 pm »

Due to it's potentially long-lasting effects, anorexia could probably be described as "worse".

ampul · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:13:28 pm »

Just take the meds you need.
What's up with these common polls

Shadowgandor · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2008, 04:38:57 pm »

Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on March 06, 2008, 09:56:25 am

excuse me guys, but what does "CUTTING" exactly means is this particular case...? you mean that the dude is occasionally cutting his wrists with a blade?

yup.

Anyway, I'm trying to convince her to seek out help, no succes, but who knows

+ OPTIMUS + · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2008, 06:23:06 pm »

omg. this is very freaky.

theoretically, if something would happen, should we hack Gandor's IP and email to get access to the dude who is in trouble and than call ambulance/police or send there psychiatric help? <.<?

freaky chapter of internet morality <.<

PIE · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2008, 02:04:57 am »

Quote from: Shadowgandor on March 06, 2008, 04:38:57 pm

Anyway, I'm trying to convince her to seek out help, no succes, but who knows

That could take a while and if you fail it could just end up making them feel worse and end up pushing them in deeper.

Both disorders are fairly common among young girls. Just be supportive and careful how you address the issue.. There is a good chance she will grow out of it if she is in the typical age group though if it is extreme the damage could still last a lifetime.

Atom Eve · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:32:05 am »

Yeah, a fair bit of the girls I knew during junior high and high school (myself included) went through a phase of one or the other at some point. Still, you shouldn't expect her to grow out of it, or anything like that. Quick reaction to the problem, before any lasting damages occur, is really the only way to go.

player1 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:44:33 am »

@+OPTI+: chick, dude, not dude

@PIE: You are right, and it doesn't have to be that much. Walking half a mile (which is like walking for ten minutes and turning around and walking home) once or twice a day, every day if you can do it, is enough just to clear your mind and get you out of the house and into the fresh air. It doesn't have to mean going to the gym or anything. Just a walk around the block before work and before dinner is well worth it. Hell, sometimes I even take the dog with me.

@Atom Eve: Thank you. A little estrogenic perspective was called for.

Lava Croft · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2008, 03:02:28 pm »

Speaking of eating and committing suicide, ever thought about taking a mouthful of razorblades?

Atom Eve · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2008, 03:20:34 pm »

Quote from: Lava Croft on March 07, 2008, 03:02:28 pm

a mouthful of razorblades?

Deliciously deadly.

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