Rate servers

[Paradox]

Ok, there hasn't been a project like this before, and I thought I should start one. There are several servers with people in them (please restrict this post to servers that have more than 3 people playing at any given time), and some seem better than others. This topic is not ment to offend anyone, but I think it is nesicarry.


Anyway, here are my ratings for a few servers:
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• trem.tjw.org: Perhaps one of the best servers on trem, and that is not biased by my adminship. The player count is a decient number (14 slots, 2 Private), and there is ff on. The ff is selective, though, you cant kill a dretch. But dretches arent immune in the sense that they just stay in one place. When you attack a dretch, they get punted. It is also a good server because of it's maprotations. It has all the original maps, except for Uncreation, which isnt that good anyway. The maps have extra build points, 50 Alien, and 75  human extra, and thus, games last long. The SD time is 30, and game over is 45. This server seems to have the most fun games, and has the lowest lag. There are many active admins, and at almost any time there will be at least one admin online.
• BG Bg is a fun server, but is a little more laggy, and there are more noobs here. Still, if you want to rack up kills quickly, bg is the place to play. There arent as many admins as TJW, but the permissions are different, and there is a greater chance of no admins being online.
• AKKA: Akka is a good, administered server. It has extra maps, and can have fun games. The player count can be a little high (24 players, 8 specs), and the lag is moderate, sometimes bad. The admin system seems to be a little bloated. When you chat, it affixes your team for genral chat, and for team chat, it affixes your location, and this can lead to lots of spam. Also, the admin system is automated, so if you are yelling at your team to defend your base, and no one is listening, the server may decide that you are spamming, and mute you, even though you were not. Also, there is no ff, and players tend to block a fair amount. Other than these downfalls, this server can be fun.[/list:o]

[[db@]Megabite]

please restrict this post to servers that have more than 3 people playing at any given time

I guess that would not be true for any server...
Our servers tend to be empty between 3am and 8am CET, othertimes they are quite crowded. I guess it is not different in different timezones, db@ being located in central europe.

I cannot compare to other servers and would not dare to review our own servers. But I still would love to see reviews of !SATGNU.ORG and one or two db@ servers here.
We can only learn by being criticized!

Danny

[Teiman]

..AKKA: Akka is a good, administered server. It has extra maps, and can have fun games. The player count can be a little high (24 players, 8 specs), ...

Haaa..  thOse friday nights fighting the orde^H^H aliens with your raid friends!

note: I really love AKKA

[Neo]

yeah, @db is fun to play on as they seem to have a fair number playing, and can get quite full sometimes and still have a decent ping.

!SATGNU is also good just it seems to suffer lag when the server is full.

[KorJax]

TJW is definatly my favorite server.  Good fun there, it has BALANCED FF on, low lag, and to top it off the build limits are increased (a paradise for us base building hippies)!  Plus it even has fancy commands like private messaging people.

AKKA is also a good one, and generally has good pings.  Its a pretty "basic" server (normal build, no FF), but it has alot of players and can get really fun with alot of players.  I dont like the fact that it has 8 or so extra slots, i join a game to play not spectate.  The spectator slots give me an impression that I am waiting in a "line" of sorts to play rather than actually playing.  Many times i end up playing a different server though because AKKA is always full too.  However, another spicy addition to this server is that they also add some of the new maps that are fairly complete or balanced fully, such as MEEP (which is my new favorite map, i love some of the concepts in it).

I cant comment on teh DB servers, considering I can never join them (Low Ping?).  However, many peopole like to play them and they dont have oversized player limits, so i can probibly assume they are good.

I can comment however on the Test server.  I really like this server, because when I am ever in the mood for som,thing new and cool, i like to play on the new test maps.  Ping is decently good most of the time, and there are enough players to have fun.  The only thing i really dont like is the extra long decon timer.  I'm one of those builder types who belives that a short decon timer is nessicary, but your server has a 5-10 second decon timer, which sometimes hinders base movements   .  Luckily its a "small" server so time is not really needed to move a base quickly, as there arent other players jumping around everywhere.

I also like SATGNU... good player limit and FF is always good.  The pings can get bad at times, but at other times it is also decently good.  I also like how some of the new beta maps are in teh rotation.  Although, the server has Uncreation, which i despise because the map is basically one giant room (performance killer?).

I cant really comment on Beer Garden as well, but its always a server i end up playing on if some of my top picks are full.  Pretty good server.


Anyways, the only servers i really like to prefer to play on are:

1.  TJW

2.  DB Test

3.  AKKA (if it has less than 24 players)


The others i play on if the above are down/full... i'm honestly not picky on servers though.  The only ones i dont play are the regular DB ones due to that Low Pings Only error i always get with them.

And I dont belive in the whole "New players tend to stick in the *insert* server".  If any new player is like me when i first started, i just pick a server that isnt full and go.

[Ksempac]

But I still would love to see reviews of !SATGNU.ORG and one or two db@ servers here.
We can only learn by being criticized!

I m gonna review your servers as a whole (because there isnt much difference between them) :
I love [db@] servers (my friends to whom i introduced Trem also play on them)

For thoses wont dont know them : There is 5 servers with the normal maps and 1 with all the beta maps, all of them have FF ON (full FF not the special FF of tjw), each of them have between 10 to 18 public slots.

For Europeans i cant see better servers : ping always under 100 (despite my poor DSL connection) and there are enough slots to play great games. Moreover i like the idea of a server dedicated to beta test : People who doesnt have the new maps can always play on the others servers and people who wants something new can play on Derelict

The only thing i dont like on db@ is that some servers dont allow Voting (cant remember which one)...From time to time some griefer comes and ruins the game and we can do nothing because we happen to be on one of the servers who doesnt allow voting.

[[db@]Megabite]

I cant comment on teh DB servers, considering I can never join them (Low Ping?).  However, many peopole like to play them and they dont have oversized player limits, so i can probibly assume they are good.

I can comment however on the Test server.  I really like this server, because when I am ever in the mood for som,thing new and cool, i like to play on the new test maps.  Ping is decently good most of the time, and there are enough players to have fun.  The only thing i really dont like is the extra long decon timer.  I'm one of those builder types who belives that a short decon timer is nessicary, but your server has a 5-10 second decon timer, which sometimes hinders base movements   .  Luckily its a "small" server so time is not really needed to move a base quickly, as there arent other players jumping around everywhere.

Yeah, sv_maxping is 140 on the main servers to keep people with worst pings out. There are some US-based servers like tjw that should work for people more than a 3000 miles west from bavaria...

About testserver settings... they seem to be f***ed up since running pulse_45, we had to reset stagethresholds already but there seem to be more settings changed by this map. I will talk to soubot about it and reset the server in time to get back to defaults.

Thanks for the feedback!

Danny

[Paradox]

The special ff of tjw is really not that special. It is part of the game.qvm that trembot runs, and if you turn on ff, it works that way. Beer Garden has the private message commands, because it too uses trembot.

[Jex]

When you chat, it affixes your team for genral chat, and for team chat, it affixes your location, and this can lead to lots of spam.

This is not actually a server feature, but the result of location entities being used in the new beta maps. The locations will appear in team messages regardless of server when these maps are played. (Unless a given server has some sort of code specifically disabling the location text.)

These entities will very likely be added to the 1.1.0 release maps as well.


As for server choice, tend to play on AKKA most often even though the player count is a higher than I prefer. For whatever reason when I don't play on AKKA I feel like I might be missing out on something...

Curious. Perhaps it's just that I tend to know people playing on AKKA more often than on other servers. This would of course be somewhat cyclic in nature.

On the otherhand, some of the betters games I have played have been on tjw's server.

[DarkWolf]

But I still would love to see reviews of !SATGNU.ORG and one or two db@ servers here.
We can only learn by being criticized!

I m gonna review your servers as a whole (because there isnt much difference between them) :
I love [db@] servers (my friends to whom i introduced Trem also play on them)

For thoses wont dont know them : There is 5 servers with the normal maps and 1 with all the beta maps, all of them have FF ON (full FF not the special FF of tjw), each of them have between 10 to 18 public slots.

For Europeans i cant see better servers : ping always under 100 (despite my poor DSL connection) and there are enough slots to play great games. Moreover i like the idea of a server dedicated to beta test : People who doesnt have the new maps can always play on the others servers and people who wants something new can play on Derelict

The only thing i dont like on db@ is that some servers dont allow Voting (cant remember which one)...From time to time some griefer comes and ruins the game and we can do nothing because we happen to be on one of the servers who doesnt allow voting.

Yea, the no-voting policy tends to be unfair sometimes, but it's off to prevent vote spammers to wanting to change map due to they are losing.
I'm most of the time on the DB@ derelict server, but i will stop by from time to time to other servers to see if there ain't griefers / incoming griefers on the loose  :wink: .

[[db@]Megabite]

For thoses wont dont know them : There is 5 servers with the normal maps and 1 with all the beta maps, all of them have FF ON (full FF not the special FF of tjw), each of them have between 10 to 18 public slots.

Okay, little correction here: Proximus and Andromeda are FF off all the time!

Danny

[Slajer]

db@ servers are the best!
ok, now send me money

[Stof]

Yea, the no-voting policy tends to be unfair sometimes, but it's off to prevent vote spammers to wanting to change map due to they are losing.
I'm most of the time on the DB@ derelict server, but i will stop by from time to time to other servers to see if there ain't griefers / incoming griefers on the loose  :wink: .

The trick to prevent vote spaming is to prevent an user from starting a new vote once he had 3 failed votes in the same map.

Also, if the next map vote passes, consider it as the opposing team yielding the game for you. It's just a game, you don't need to see a "Victory" screen to feel like you've won the day

[Ksempac]

Yea, the no-voting policy tends to be unfair sometimes, but it's off to prevent vote spammers to wanting to change map due to they are losing.
I'm most of the time on the DB@ derelict server, but i will stop by from time to time to other servers to see if there ain't griefers / incoming griefers on the loose  :wink: .

I know that but I see more griefers on the servers with no vote than vote spammers on the servers with voting allowed  :-?
and vote spammers can always be kicked  if they really are too annoying :wink:

[Ksempac]

Sorry for double post but this was really too much :

It s happening now in Central Hive which doesn t allow voting.

Screen of TKERs

I tried to stand against theses guys but it wasn t possible, then i tried to find a [db@] member on the db@ servers that werent full but i couldn t find any...

14 players cant play because of 2 griefers and no vote allowed. Please allow vote on all your servers T_T

EDIT for Paradox : I could have made a thumbnail but i was too lazy...so i m putting a link instead

[Paradox]

To any forum admins:
Can we get a thumbnail feature. I am sick of imagas distorting the layout. Please put on a thumb. If you need help, pm me.

[[db@]Megabite]

Proximus was the only main server with no voting, changed that now.
 
Voting is still not allowed on Derelict to give each map its playtime.

Danny

[Neo]

You could try message me via MSN if possible, though sometimes I won't be there to answer.

[benplaut]

unfortunately, my average ping is 150... can't get into DB  

i really like TJW, but it gives a bit of an edge to humans, because of turret hogging.

Beer Garden is an awesome place... doesn't lag for me, lots of very really good and friendly people. The only problem is lack of admins... i said it in another thread, but it would be nice if you could vote to do a 15min ban for the ones who just keep coming back.  Maybe require a certain percentage 'yes', but it would be nice.  No more Wonko  :O

[tjw]

i really like TJW, but it gives a bit of an edge to humans, because of turret hogging.

http://trem.tjw.org/teamwins_long.php?MONTH=200605

In May:

Aliens: 670 wins
Humans: 513 wins

135 draws

[phaedrus]

i really like TJW, but it gives a bit of an edge to humans, because of turret hogging.

http://trem.tjw.org/teamwins_long.php?MONTH=200605

In May:

Aliens: 670 wins
Humans: 513 wins

135 draws

I saw that earlier.  If you look, humans only dominate on one map: tremor.  The other maps are neck-in-neck (humans and aliens within about 6 wins of tying, 2 maps, atcs and arachnid), or straight up domination by the aliens (the other 4 maps in rotation on tjw).  

The lesson?  More turrets only prolong the tyrant rush.

Done hijacking thread.  

tjw is the best, lots of build points, good players, enthusiastic admins, and low ping (for me).  AKKA at 160 ping is too much to play aliens at all (can't get in to attack, it's just high enough to wreck my game).  All the others are 200+ ping, so I haven't played on them.  db@ servers sound cool, but I'm way on the west coast of the US.  

(Hmm... If we all keep pimping tjw's awesome server, there will never be openings on it...)

Jeff

[Paradox]

HighTech has opened killaz, and i am trying to convince him to allow me to help make it awesome.

[[EVIL]Unknown]

ok what the f is with this wonko guy!!??

ok i hear people talk about him all the time...what does he do though?? i have seen him a couple of times but he does nothing??

seems a bit new and not too good but shit seriously ive gotten so many complaints by people about him..

lack of admins?? more like lack of u being there while im not there.. lots of times i notice when im on the server and people c me they leave..

probably dont like to get their asses handed to them by me.. so i usually switch to a random name and chill so more people join... but im still there and there are a few other admins...

lateley ive been pissed cause my wireless doesnt work and has been disconnecting..u will all notice this when u see me ping out at 999..

yeah thats me when my wireless disconnects and i franticly try to reconnect...well now it wont and im stuck on dial up unless im working at college where wireless does work..

so ffs we admins are there but prob dont feel like putting up with peoples whinning..wonko this, wonko that, f'n lag, omfg this server is so laggy, i think its laggy... yes i know its fucking laggy.. the server will be upgraded in a month.. no need to repeatedly restate the obvious..

ok im gonna try to join in now on my dial up connection to c how it goes...im tired and my patience is holding by a thread so DONT SNAP IT!!!

[rasz_pl]

But I still would love to see reviews of !SATGNU.ORG and one or two db@ servers here.
We can only learn by being criticized!

I m gonna review your servers as a whole (because there isnt much difference between them) :
I love [db@] servers (my friends to whom i introduced Trem also play on them)

For thoses wont dont know them : There is 5 servers with the normal maps and 1 with all the beta maps, all of them have FF ON (full FF not the special FF of tjw), each of them have between 10 to 18 public slots.

For Europeans i cant see better servers : ping always under 100 (despite my poor DSL connection) and there are enough slots to play great games. Moreover i like the idea of a server dedicated to beta test : People who doesnt have the new maps can always play on the others servers and people who wants something new can play on Derelict

The only thing i dont like on db@ is that some servers dont allow Voting (cant remember which one)...From time to time some griefer comes and ruins the game and we can do nothing because we happen to be on one of the servers who doesnt allow voting.

What you wrote is pretty much like I see db@. Love them (not counting voting off ones)

satgnu - good when Lava or other admin is arround, TERRIBLE if not (its like magic, the second there are no admins some Idiot shows up and the fun is over)

tjw/bg ? pings SUXORING from europe, AKKA has semi decent ping (130) but FF off + bugged autokick script = screw that one.

ESA and EKS are ok (one of them has voting off tho )

IRSGames PubPL is also ok

[Lava Croft]

Naturally, the only relevant servers are those which have active admins.

[rasz_pl]

ok, i played on Killaz a moment ago, ping 140-180 from Europe/Poland . I was running DIRECTLY after the fleeing humans (directly as in GLUED to their asses) with mara and swiping the air , same with dretch.
But active admins and skill level are really nice there.

edit:

db@ with beta maps - TERRIBLE
1 turret kills subtract human stage counter, I just ended a match where humans got S2 with 3 kills
2 only 5 minutes of play after SD