I agree, I think the problem is finding someone to organize it that everyone will listen too. I'm more than willing to help get involved, but I imagine people hate me so much they wouldn't even bother to try it. It wouldn't be too hard to set up a forums, server, and appoint 5-6 trusted players to be reps. Then do guid and ip logging of everyone into a list just incase. We could vote on all settings, or let the settings be up to the clans as they play. Like allow reps to change settings with those nifty !abps or !gravity commands. I think encouraging different maps would be good also. I think we could set up something like TV was doing pretty easy. Glad to see him doing something, but I haven't seen much on it lately, since its mostly Euro atm. I think there should be a league type deal. Where all the clans are ranked, and then there should be a tournament. The matches in the tournament would be random generatored or based upon the current ranking from the regular games of a clan. The only problem is getting people on to play, maybe have them agree to a time, and if one clan flakes its a forfiet? I understand having lives makes this hard, so something like requiring 6 players from each clan to agree on the time, so that way chances are you can still get a good 4v4. Heh, I'll look into something, or see if TV is interested in adding a tournament into his little thing. I'm sure meren could help with site design, maybe build his analizer right into it.