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Pbhead

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More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« on: May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm »
More people need to play the 1.2 test server so that the devlopment staff can see how the changes effect balance and so forth... and so it gets done faster, and so you can share your input and so forth... because games with 1 or 2 players... dont really tell them much... and at the moment... the server is preety much allways empty... so make sure view empty servers is check on when looking for it. 

Oh... and... the server name is

"}mg{devlopement server"

and MAKE SURE to turn on autodownload... as you kinda need to download the 1.2 (alpha or beta, who knows...) "mod"

be sure to read the help section (between options and exit on the menu) so you know what has changed... like...

barracades :barricade: are usefull.

rants that can fly, can crush hummies(jump off the side of the middle building in atcs, for example)
---\
__  |
  |  V
  |  :tyrant:
  |  :human:   *squash*

aliens heal slower, unless they are on creep(current healing), or next to a  :basilisk:basilisk/booster (2 or 3x currret healing)

advanced goons :dragoon: get barbs with splash dmg, and they are avalible at s2 (DIE HUMMIE TURRETS!!!1)

s1 grangers  :granger: are still incredibly cute, and still make great pets, but can scratch you now...  :(

and more... ;D

the hummies get stuff too...

turrets.... :turret: are... weaker or stronger depending on your point of view...

teslas  :tesla: usefull because of changes in turrets

lucifer cannons have 1/2 charge rate (takes longer to charge a full shot) but the shots travel faster.

mass driver shots travel through things they hit, hitting multiple things along the path. (dont line up your alien buildings)


and more!   ;D


so..... 1.2! NAO! gogoggo!


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nismo@nis.de

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 04:42:39 pm »
Everytime I try to connect to the server, it shows the same error (although I turned on autodownload):

Server Disconnected - Unpure client detected.
Invalid .PK3 files referenced!


What does this mean?  ???
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Pbhead

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 04:48:12 pm »
Quote from: nismo@nis.de on May 27, 2008, 04:42:39 pm
Everytime I try to connect to the server, it shows the same error (although I turned on autodownload):

Server Disconnected - Unpure client detected.
Invalid .PK3 files referenced!


What does this mean?  ???

It means your referencing invalid .pk3 files.... which means you need to overwrite them(where ever they are with valid versions.(with whatever a .pk3 file is... i think they are the format for maps.{atcs, tremor,})

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nismo@nis.de

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 04:59:06 pm »
1. I don't like mark deconstructing  :-\ , but that's only my statement.  :)

2. The colors are wrong: for example ^5nismo^2@^3nis^4.de ^7was gunned down by a turret.  changes too:  ^7nismo^2@^3nis^4.de ^7was gunned down by a turret.  ::)
« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 05:23:34 pm by nismo@nis.de »
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 06:08:46 pm »
Mark decon is a big change, but don't be so quick to dismiss it.
It has a lot of benefits over the current system, primarily while moving.
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 06:23:31 pm »
Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
barracades :barricade: are usefull.

How?

Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
mass driver shots travel through things they hit, hitting multiple things along the path. (dont line up your alien buildings)

Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
rants that can fly, can crush hummies(jump off the side of the middle building in atcs, for example)
---\
__  |
  |  V
  |  :tyrant:
  |  :human:   *squash*

I like the sound of md shots continuing and tyrants squishing.

Quote from: nismo@nis.de on May 27, 2008, 04:59:06 pm
1. I don't like mark deconstructing  :-\ , but that's only my statement.  :)

Don't get me started on marked decon again >:( Suffice it to say, I don't like it.

Quote from: nismo@nis.de on May 27, 2008, 04:42:39 pm
Everytime I try to connect to the server, it shows the same error (although I turned on autodownload):

Server Disconnected - Unpure client detected.
Invalid .PK3 files referenced!


What does this mean?  ???

This error can come about from trying to connect to a server you've just disconnected from. Try restarting trem and connecting again before you go overwriting stuff.
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nismo@nis.de

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 06:29:17 pm »
Quote from: David on May 27, 2008, 06:08:46 pm
Mark decon is a big change, but don't be so quick to dismiss it.
It has a lot of benefits over the current system, primarily while moving.

I know, it's quite useful for example if you're moving RC, but it's, like you said, a big change and I don't like so big changes  ::)
But my brother could convince me, that it's not so bad how I thought. His ingame name is "maci". I don't know whether you know him, but he's got an own server on top of the main server list and he's very famous. His website is http://satgnu.net  ;D
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 06:35:46 pm »
Quote from: Nux on May 27, 2008, 06:23:31 pm
Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
barracades :barricade: are usefull.
How?
Slightly cheaper, I think slightly tougher, and more importantly, can move out of your way, so you can use them to block stuff without also screwing yourself over.
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 06:36:53 pm »
Quote from: Nux on May 27, 2008, 06:23:31 pm
Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
barracades :barricade: are usefull.

How?

I think he means they'll become more useful since they'll cost less to build and will have more HP.

Edit: Damn you, David.  ;D
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kevlarman

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2008, 06:46:37 pm »
mass driver no longer goes through things it hits.
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Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2008, 06:48:40 pm »
Quote from: nismo@nis.de on May 27, 2008, 04:59:06 pm
2. The colors are wrong: for example ^5nismo^2@^3nis^4.de ^7was gunned down by a turret.  changes too:  ^7nismo^2@^3nis^4.de ^7was gunned down by a turret.  ::)

This is a bug in SVN code that I haven't been able to understand, much less fix. With any luck, someone with a clue like Timbo or tjw will sort it sooner or later.
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temple

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2008, 08:24:10 pm »
Marked decon is probably the best change of all, for both teams.

Anyone that disagrees is just being a nerd.
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Bajsefar

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2008, 08:38:52 pm »
But marked decon is making base moving easier without more than one kit coordinated.

coordinated base moves are quite cool imo.

But nvm, it's probably good.

I would love to play on that server, I know there is an european 1.2 test server thanks to MG, but it's always empty... :(
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Nux

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2008, 08:46:26 pm »
Quote from: temple on May 27, 2008, 08:24:10 pm
Marked decon is probably the best change of all, for both teams.

Anyone that disagrees is just being a nerd.

Don't tempt me.. I'll nerd you into the ground my friend.
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jit

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 05:45:39 am »
what would happen if the dev team just released wut they had as a mod or qvm or w/e its called so nearly everyone could play it and react to it. Perhaps they could release a new one every couple of months so the feedback would include more and be effective.
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kevlarman

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2008, 06:01:55 am »
Quote from: Kage Mane on May 28, 2008, 05:45:39 am
what would happen if the dev team just released wut they had as a mod or qvm or w/e its called so nearly everyone could play it and react to it. Perhaps they could release a new one every couple of months so the feedback would include more and be effective.
you mean like we're doing right now? the code and binaries are in the pk3.
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Ok let's plan it out. Asva, you are nub, go sit on rets, I will build, you two go feed like hell, you go pwn their asses, and everyone else camp in the hallway, roger?
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Pbhead

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2008, 02:10:55 pm »
the whole, mark decon thing... although different from the mark decon of other servers... is still mark decon... and it is the biggest change... and some people will like it, and those who dont, will simply make a 1.2-markdecon mod... and htere will definatly be "classic" servers...

now.... i wonder what would happen if someone crossed tremx with 1.2.... hmm....
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2008, 12:08:21 am »
Quote from: Pbhead on May 28, 2008, 02:10:55 pm
now.... i wonder what would happen if someone crossed tremx with 1.2.... hmm....

o.O

Oh HELL no! That would be just too crazy...


Oh wait, that's just TremX... My bad.
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 02:39:12 pm »
I must say I'm not a big fan of marked decon either. It addresses the issues that needed to be addressed, but... I find it unnecesarily sophisticated. I think the same issues could be addressed with small modifications to the old system (like, making buildings start to build from 30% health while taking the same time to reach 100% as now, which would solve most of the problems when moving)
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 05:45:31 pm »
Quote from: Pbhead on May 27, 2008, 04:22:57 pm
More people need to play the 1.2 test server so that the devlopment staff can see how the changes effect balance and so forth...

Hey sorry for maybe dumb questions, but what development Server? What 1.2 client build? What Staff?

It would be nice to know a bit more. I Would have tested if I had seen anything not hidden on the forums ;)
What about updating the website on that issue? Should get you plenty testers.

cheers
Mana
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Bajsefar

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2008, 05:50:52 pm »
DO IT NOW! List the servers running 1.2 test servers in europe, US, australia and other places, and ask for MOAR servers!
WTB more Europe test servers that are regularly populated. :'(
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2008, 11:55:29 pm »
The server is }MG{ Development Server 69.41.162.130:30730, as was mentioned in the first post.
It was also posted to the news on the front page a while ago.
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2008, 05:48:10 pm »
Well if you want to try the REAL 1.2 test server, get the latest SVN and compile it, check the server list and go to town :)
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2008, 06:22:57 am »
The only server using protocol 70 is...
Betaserv!
http://betaserv.tk

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 09:41:25 am »
In my opinion, so far none of the changes make Tremulous a better game. The tyrant is already borderline too strong...why give *it* more power?

The MD idea sounds like a failure to me because it destroys half the point of having barricades, which is supposed to be another big woopty doo. It also eliminates a rant stepping in a covering for a fleeing goon...a huge part of this game's teamwork, oh well. Its been eliminated, so Ill lay off it.

The lucy thing...seriously why? now we have further eliminated skill in using/timing the lucy, and it becomes a better spam device. Also tyrants will crush it. I don't understand a single reason for this except noobs' lack of timing. =/

You wanna improve a weapon, take some rounds out of the average pulse clip but increase its speed. I havent seen much effectiveness with a pulse since the rise of unlagged.

I am one player who's not looking forward to 1.2 and all its "improvements" :(
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2008, 10:15:12 am »
Agree with those luci comments.

I don't want to sound like one of those players that systematically opose to any change, tho. I like most changes in 1.2 excepting those 2 things.

KamikOzzy : someone above said the MD passthrough is not going to be in 1.2.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 10:19:11 am by jal »
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2008, 01:59:59 pm »
Quote from: KamikOzzy on May 31, 2008, 09:41:25 am
In my opinion, so far none of the changes make Tremulous a better game. The tyrant is already borderline too strong...why give *it* more power?
Rants lose their regen boost.  Which is kind of a big thing.

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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2008, 02:47:21 pm »
never saw this server, whats its ip?
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2008, 07:09:53 pm »
Quote from: Woo_Hoi on May 31, 2008, 02:47:21 pm
never saw this server, whats its ip?
Quote from: David on May 29, 2008, 11:55:29 pm
The server is }MG{ Development Server 69.41.162.130:30730, as was mentioned in the first post.
It was also posted to the news on the front page a while ago.
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Re: More people need to play the 1.2 test server...
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2008, 05:22:16 am »
http://trem.milesmac.com/blogs/index.php

has no one really seen this....
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