Defeating dretches with the rifle... :/

[SonicFreak12]

How come I have trouble even killing so much as a dretch, even as I aim right at 'em, I have trouble draining their stupid 25 health, not to mention the fact that they go on walls and ceilings. How do you defeat a dretch with a rifle?

[icono[celt]]

Pray and spray can be effective sometimes.

Otherwise the aiming right at them when they are moving could be part of the problem.  Dretches move fast so you should lead them a little. Also, if you see one instead of turning around to run away face it and run backwards so you can follow their movement on the floor to the wall to the ceiling.

[SonicFreak12]

But aren't the rifle projectiles instant hit? How could they outrun 'em?

* By the way, my dialup lag of 400-450 doesn't help either. :/

[Markimedes]

I'm sad to say that on dial-up, hitting a moving dretch with anything short of a spammed lucy cannon/shotgun will be a long shot, since they can change direction and be somewhere else by the time your shot registers...
In any case, if you happen to find a dretch running in a straight line, try leading them a bit.. might work.

With me, hitting a Dretch with anything is mostly just try-to-aim and click, even with my generally low ping. (but that's cuz I suck)

[kozak6]

Oh.

With lag that high, you are going to have to lead a hell of a lot.  You are really going to have a hard time hitting anything.

[Neo]

I tned to use about 10-12 bullets per dretch, even though its only 5 bullets to kill them. Your best bet is juse to keep dodging until they get into a corner or end up coming at you in a straight line. Even wallcrawlers will eventually, then just aim and bang.

[PHREAK]

I tned to use about 10-12 bullets per dretch, even though its only 5 bullets to kill them. Your best bet is juse to keep dodging until they get into a corner or end up coming at you in a straight line. Even wallcrawlers will eventually, then just aim and bang.

Well depends on the dretch
Killing a dretch with the rifle is mostly either luck, or a bad dretch since the whole point in their design is speed. If there is more then one, run.
Id rather have a stand off with a goon then face 2 dretches before s3.

[Stof]

I tned to use about 10-12 bullets per dretch, even though its only 5 bullets to kill them. Your best bet is juse to keep dodging until they get into a corner or end up coming at you in a straight line. Even wallcrawlers will eventually, then just aim and bang.

Well depends on the dretch
Killing a dretch with the rifle is mostly either luck, or a bad dretch since the whole point in their design is speed. If there is more then one, run.
Id rather have a stand off with a goon then face 2 dretches before s3.

Come on You don't need bs or lucifer to kill a good dretch player. A pulse rifle will be enouth to make the dretches life hell.

[SonicFreak12]

Well, I do seem to be able to kill them easier with a las gun, but it's still kinda tricky, but at least it more accurate.

With my connection, I usually waste two whole clips of rifle ammo before the dretch kills me.

Fortunately, the people from Time Warner cable are coming to install RoadRunner and cable and digital phones on the 22nd, so things will definitely start looking up for me then.

[Catalyc]

Mass driver or shotgun works wonders for taking on several dretches even before s2.. just need a little aim and a decent ping.


...and a whole lot of dodging. for some reason running straight at them (jumping over if necesary) is a relatively easy tactic that most dretch players don't expect.

[werepants]

I typically try to back up away from the dretch.  Gives you more time to acquire a target and makes them more likely to run straight at you.  The shotgun is good because if you can get 1 or 2 pellets to connect you are set.  I also have good luck with the lasgun, but in any case the rifle will work too.  With your high ping, it might even be easier to sit back a little bit and try to pick off the easy targets from a distance.

[Norfenstein]

Dretches are easiest to kill when they're coming straight at you, so a good tactic is to run away from them (not backpedal, turn around and run, it's faster) then turn around suddenly while they're still chasing you.

[SonicFreak12]

Dretches are easiest to kill when they're coming straight at you, so a good tactic is to run away from them (not backpedal, turn around and run, it's faster) then turn around suddenly while they're still chasing you.

Sounds like a good idea. Also, I just recently figured out that the rifle is not good as a long range weapon.

[redalert]

how is it not a good long ranged weapon? I find it fine.

[Markimedes]

It is decent short-medium range.
However, it isn't perfectly accurate like the mass driver or las gun, and at long range will miss small targets, such as our hypothetical dretch.
However, on the bright side, such long range shots are rarely needed, since most passageways are short and most rooms small. The dark side of this is the dretch gets to your face that much faster, don't flinch.

At the ranges required the inaccuracy of the rifle probably improves our aim.

[SonicFreak12]

Well, I have found that the previously mentioned "pray and spray" technique actually works. Once I can buy myself a helmet and a jetpack, I'm much better off, seeing that the only thing that can take me down are hives and smart aliens (except for tyrants, which have no vertical movement augmentations).

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Start shooting to the left of the dretch and then SWEEP across to the right cutting it in half

[Markimedes]

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Unmless you have a mass driver, in which case, aim for the dot. If you miss, you're a failure and should go die.

Wow.. that picture looks wrong...

[SonicFreak12]

Unmless you have a mass driver, in which case, aim for the dot. If you miss, you're a failure and should go die.

Well, I've found out that leading is actually what works. Despite the fact that the projectiles are instant-hit, they're delayed instant-hit. So that  probably isn't a good spot to shoot for.

I have trouble hitting stuff with the mass driver. However, I'm quite proud of myself, considering that now I can hit the dretches fairly easily. And once I get a jetpack, helmet, light armor, and lucy cannon, I'm almost unstoppable.

It's really fun to pwn dretches with the lucifer cannon.

However, what makes me really proud of myself is yesterday (or the day before?) when I took down a dretch with with just 5 rifle shots as it came straight at me. Call me pathetic, but I was like woah... Cool.

Yeah. So I think most of my problem come from the fact that I just plain suck, but the fact that the things move so jerky (from my ping) makes it really hard to hit them.

I've found the I like the shotgun and painsaw as well. Good dretch-killers.

[Smokey]

With the rifle, i think of myself as very good at killing dreteches. i play a quake2 mod, dpball and i have to lead the players so that my paintballs hit them, and i have gotten good at it.