Author Topic: granger soft toy (Read 22120 times)

zaishaza · « **on:** September 20, 2008, 10:39:36 pm »

i was chatting on irc and the idea of a granger "plushy" was mentioned. i figured i could load the md3 model used in the game into blender and break it down with pattern developement (normally used with sheet metal). i've done this to the abdomen as a little demo. here's what i did....

imported the md3 model into blender
removed the shape keys
did some minor tweaks to the mesh
broke the abdomen down into strips of triangles that could be flattened
welded them back together along the top of the abdomen
flattened the abdomen with a unfolder script

in the image below you can see the abdomen before and after the flattening process. i've colour coded the strips of triangles to make it clear what is happening. the flattened mesh is now ready to be be used as a template for marking out the fabric.

mooseberry · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2008, 10:51:12 pm »

Looks very cool! There was some discussion a while back about making trem plushies, but this looks like it's getting somewhere. Do you have any plans for continuing on the process?

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:06:49 pm »

I'd buy a plushie granger. I'd buy the whole set actually...

zaishaza · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:10:10 pm »

mooseberry- i might do. it's an interesting exercise.

khalsa · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:19:26 pm »

I'll look for the version of the pattern dev I got done on the granger when I get some time.

When I was looking into it ages ago, unfortunetly the economics of the whole deal didn't really add up enough to meet the goals I was looking for (adding considerable funds to the trem coffers mainly).

Good luck to ya anyways!

Khalsa

Syntac · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:36:48 pm »

I would definitely buy a plush granger.

Steely Ann · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:45:25 pm »

Huh. Thought this thread seemed familiar.

Pic relevant.

mooseberry · « **Reply #7 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:07:14 am »

Quote from: Steely Ann on September 20, 2008, 11:45:25 pm

Huh. Thought this thread seemed familiar.

Quote from: mooseberry on September 20, 2008, 10:51:12 pm

There was some discussion a while back about making trem plushies, but this looks like it's getting somewhere.

>.>

zaishaza · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2008, 12:50:10 pm »

the mesh needed massive simplification if it was going to be workable as a soft toy, so i've spent some time reducing the polys. the fact it's a lot lower poly than the original isn't a major issue because once the toy is stuffed it'll become more rounded, gaining back some smoothness. here's what it's looking like now...

...and here's the blend file if you want to take a closer look.
granger-0006.blend

fingered banana · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2008, 03:13:36 pm »

nice. are you a good tailor?

Lava Croft · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2008, 03:27:11 pm »

Use some pepakura program to get a ready-to-fold-and-glue print, so we can all create our very own paper Granger!

zaishaza · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2008, 03:54:54 pm »

fingered banana - nope. i've done this stuff with metal, but not cloth.

Lava Croft - yeah, i was thinking about making a paper version. shouldn't be too hard.

mooseberry · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2008, 07:31:26 pm »

Yeah, pepakura granger would be pretty sweet.

fingered banana · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2008, 08:09:50 pm »

No need for pepakura. If you define the edge seams right unwrap will be conformal (blender)

zaishaza · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2008, 08:30:41 pm »

that pepakura thing looks pretty cool.

i've been trying to get my head around how to get the legs to attach to the body (for the cloth based toy). the front ones attach to matching holes in the body, which is ok because they are fairly big legs, but having matching holes for the two pairs of smaller legs is looking fiddly. i'm considering making the smaller legs as self contained objects which are stuffed and sewn up separately, then sewn onto the body afterwards. here's a shot of the legs as seperate models and the main body without corresponding holes.

the eyes shouldn't be too much of a problem, standard soft toy ones would do for that. the horns/bones on the side of the face are a bit more complicated, they could either be cloth based, wood or plastic. any suggestions?
granger-0007.blend

mooseberry · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2008, 08:51:59 pm »

Very nice work! I would try to keep it all cloth if I were you. Front claw things should be cloth if at all possible.

fingered banana · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:23:40 pm »

It looks nice. You can also detach front legs and head

Superpie · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:45:49 pm »

If anyone can provide a textured .obj or .3ds file, I have pepakura installed and can make a paper cutout...

fingered banana · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:59:15 pm »

Blender has obj exporter

Nux · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2008, 02:03:15 am »

Quote from: fingered banana on September 21, 2008, 10:23:40 pm

It looks nice. You can also detach front legs and head

Not a good idea. Sewing the seperate parts would create a hinge-like seam which works well for the smaller legs (which are meant to move up and down), but would make the head and front legs too flimsy, like the granger was ill or dead.

zaishaza · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2008, 06:54:55 am »

i've modified the legs so that they touch at the bottom of the body. this will be far easier to attach than trying to get the legs attached to corresponding holes. the little legs will flop up and down a bit, but that shouldn't be major problem.

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2008, 08:34:35 am »

Since fabric patterns for soft toys have smooth curves, could using a large number of polys (subsurf?) be better? I'm not sure how suitable such a low resolution mesh with all those sharp edges would be for turning into a cutting pattern for making a real object.

zaishaza · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2008, 06:06:11 pm »

good point taiyo, i'm not really sure about this stuff because i'm not used to working with fabric. perhaps i should make a subsurf model instead, very tempting.

mooseberry · « **Reply #23 on:** September 23, 2008, 02:54:07 am »

Subsurf (I'm used to calling it subdivide.) can be useful for the overall shape, but my thought is that when you cut it down into layers for tailoring that it will make it much more complected than necessary to get a good shape. (I'm not exactly sure how to express this, but if you can understand cutting down a rounded object to make a flat layer is difficult, somewhat like trying to get the shape of the earth onto a flat surface, it doesn't fit perfectly.)

Bissig · « **Reply #24 on:** September 23, 2008, 05:18:55 am »

You are talking about "projection":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection

Nux · « **Reply #25 on:** September 23, 2008, 10:35:20 pm »

Quote from: Wikipedia

A map projection is any method used in cartography to represent the two-dimensional curved surface of the earth or other body on a plane.

It's actually closer to a 'Net', though cloth can be stretched, inflated etc.

+ OPTIMUS + · « **Reply #26 on:** September 23, 2008, 10:39:48 pm »

in the case that our universe is vielded on the back of an universe-wide granger, i like that, but i still prefer the turtle dude.

Nux · « **Reply #27 on:** September 23, 2008, 11:15:07 pm »

That turtle is fine, but the turtle under that turtle is *much* better.

But if you do manage to make a map out of the granger I'll be impressed all the same.

I recommend you try making the soft toy first. A much simpler task if you ask me.

Hell, if we're going to take the simple route, why don't we just staple old soft toys together until it resembles a granger?

O.o

ok.. bad idea.

Taiyo.uk · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2008, 11:28:44 pm »

TMNG?

fingered banana · « **Reply #29 on:** September 23, 2008, 11:31:46 pm »

How to mod your plushy turtle into a granger.

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