Author Topic: THIS DECONNING CRAP NEEDS TO STOP  (Read 8986 times)

Rekov

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« on: June 21, 2006, 12:36:57 am »
The last 7 games i played lasted no longer than 3 minutes, because some asswipe kept deconning everything. You cant ban him, cause he renames, usually to the name of another player, so they end up getting banned instead. Make bans by IP address, or even better, make it so you cant rename if you are  being voted on. I dont want to play tremulous if every time my own teammates destroy the base.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 02:45:08 am »
Yeah, I don't understand why these people want to do it. Like... the lamers I can understand, but I had a game going the other day. It lasted an hour and 3 minutes and it was really intense. It was transit and the humans got massacred by a lightning strike. I didn't load the map properly so I had to reconnect and when I got in the last spawn that I had come out of was getting overrun. I always spawn as a constructor (luckily), so I took my construction kit and ran. I could tell from the console messages that my team had been slaughtered where they stood as I escaped. I built a reactor, a spawn, an armory, and some turrets under the train near the corner (to stay out of Alien sensors as long as possible; I was only delaying the inevitable). My team came back and we built a base real quick. One player, Sniper, ran away from our base. When he gave the signal I deconned the reactor and he rebuilt a more established base. The rest of us then started deconning everything else as quickly as we could. I died as I deconned the last turret as we were overrun by some marauders and a dragoon. We respawned in a tight little area where Tyrants have a very hard time attacking. We got ourselves together and prepared for smaller aliens. We were holding them off and we got a little over confident. Me and a few other guys strayed into the area that was in Tyrant range (unaware that they'd reached Stage 3 through the 2 massacres we went through), and one of them came as a tyrant and completely destroyed us. Eventually WE managed to get to Stage 3 and we turned the tables. We found their base under the train (helmets), and I built a repeater, a spawn, and an armory on top of the train. We quickly destroyed their base, but some grangers got away. They set up somewhere else. This is when the game was like "holy shit this is intense!". I hadn't died in a while, but I finally got killed in a small ambush (I thought I'd found their base, but it was just a large pack of aliens in the big spiral staircase... I still don't know why there were so many of them there). Just then I'd realized there were no spawns. Turns out we had no reactor as well. I was wondering why I hadn't heard a warning that our reactor was under attack, and then someone said that someone from the other team had switched and deconned our base. Our remaining BattleSuits fought long and hard, but committed suicide when they were forced to use their blasters against the entire alien horde (who now had a complete base somewhere else). It could have been an even better game then it was, with a much better ending, but someone had to go and decon the entire base. I don't understand why someone would do that to win, though, cause it's not like they were just trying to piss us off (unless they'd just gotten there maybe, but then why would they switch teams? Why wouldn't they just take out the Alien base to piss people off since that's the team they started on?). I dunno, whatever the case, that was the best game I'd ever played and it could have been far better, so I really think this decon for the win thing needs to stop.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 02:49:36 am »
I agree, check out the kick Ip mod thread I started.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 05:47:32 am »
In fact, I don't see why people would be allowed to change names DURING A GAME either.

I still think a gamer ID of some sort is warranted, so that names aren't just for show. Perhaps you can still have a different name if you wish, but you must log in with your ID to get on servers, so you are still identified uniquely.

But I still don't see why people need to change names during games.

kozak6

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2006, 07:48:30 am »
Well, it's the only way for a new player to change their name from "Unnamed Player".

Demonic Spoon

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2006, 08:00:25 am »
No. You can use the console in the menu and do /Name command.

But yeah. The main menu needs an options menu.

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2006, 08:00:56 am »
on killaz server whenever someone decons something it sends a message to everyone on that team saying "name deconstructed object".. i think it works pretty well.

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2006, 08:15:29 am »
but it's still no way how to kick person by nick  - he just hange it. It's too dull algorithm, that couldn't catch such hole - it's even more bug of server than misscoding. And it's REAL promblem on play servres, I've tired from such decons noobers.

Better way:
- do not permit nick change during such vote
- or kick by IP

And also it's commonly good idea to keep in kick state at last till end of match.

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2006, 09:14:03 am »
I second this. Please do something about it.

Rekov

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2006, 04:58:32 pm »
OMG I cant even play cause there is always a deconner. Its mainly dad, and tree, who go by differnt names, but those are the main ones. IF they could be permanantly IP banned...
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2006, 05:19:13 pm »
Quote from: "Rekov"
OMG I cant even play cause there is always a deconner. Its mainly dad, and tree, who go by differnt names, but those are the main ones. IF they could be permanantly IP banned...
Play at the [DB@] servers, there, i'm admin there along with others, but i'm primairly on the derelict server, griefers, intentionally TKers etc... are mostly kicked on sight unless they really have a valid reason, so no really lame games when i'm on :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2006, 06:23:04 pm »
There is a reason the Admin Contact thread is sticky'd. Please feel free to bug us with any complaints as soon as they arise.
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DarkWolf

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2006, 06:47:03 pm »
Quote from: "Stasis"
There is a reason the Admin Contact thread is sticky'd. Please feel free to bug us with any complaints as soon as they arise.
I think that's the wrong link, so i guess you meant this: http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=795
Also, how can you link a word to a site?
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2006, 06:52:45 pm »
Quote from: "DarkWolf"
Quote from: "Stasis"
There is a reason the Admin Contact thread is sticky'd. Please feel free to bug us with any complaints as soon as they arise.
I think that's the wrong link, so i guess you meant this: http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=795
Also, how can you link a word to a site?


Use:
Code: [Select]

[url=http://www.somethingawful.com]headquarters of lljk[/url]

This produces:
headquarters of lljk

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2006, 06:56:33 pm »
Thank you, also may i ask another thing i can't seem to solve?
I'm trying to connect to a TeamSpeak channel for quite some time with the adress: d-servers.com:8767
But i can't seem to connect, i tried quick connect, trying to find it via web server list, nothing.
Any suggestions?  :)
And sorry for being off-topic.
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Stasis

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2006, 07:08:54 pm »
Fixed. Serves me right for sloppy hand coding
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Chaom

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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2006, 08:05:37 pm »
Hey guys how bout this for an idea. What if instead of just being able to log on you had to create a free account. With this, every player could be identified by 2 things, a name which they can make whatever they want, and a number that never changes. This way you could kick that number (or ban it).

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DarkWolf

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2006, 08:09:41 pm »
Well, if they were banned, they'd just create a new account, and with dynamic IP's (which changes IP every time they log in) or a manually IP change, an IP ban would be useless.
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Rekov

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2006, 10:23:03 pm »
Quote from: "DarkWolf"
Well, if they were banned, they'd just create a new account, and with dynamic IP's (which changes IP every time they log in) or a manually IP change, an IP ban would be useless.


These are not proffesional Hackers or wahtevet. Its some 12 year old who thinks hes being funny.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2006, 10:30:01 pm »
It doesn't take a professional hacker to change IP. I would think that most 12 year olds are capable of rebooting their modem.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2006, 10:39:10 pm »
thats why you mega ban them :D  (ip, mac, guid etc etc.)
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2006, 12:15:45 am »
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Its mainly dad, and tree, who go by differnt names...


Dad wrecked a game I was playing on last night. That kid's an asshole. He even booted me with clientnumber after mimicking some else's name, usually someone who threatened to boot him, and then called a clientnumber vote. Therefore, everyone would vote yes, thinking Dad was up for boot. Then it would say that an innocent person got booted. I got booted 2 or 3 times from his votes. Then he started saying that "he had cancer" and spammed "hahahahahahaha" using the console. He kept mimicking my name so much that I just changed my name to PregnantWomenAreSexy and said "You'll have to admit your fetish to mimic me, asshole." (Yes, I'm kinky bastard. So sue me. :P ) Fortunately, that kept him from mimicking my name, but he still called himself POOPTURTLE, which is my name. Which probably gave me a bad rep among any noobs entering the game. >:/

That kid is asking for it; someday he's gonna get his ass kicked by someone who's not quite as opposed to violence as myself.
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2006, 01:36:48 pm »
wait, your nick is POOPTURTLE?




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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2006, 01:59:32 pm »
lol :D
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2006, 08:08:27 pm »
Quote from: "Pilo T"
Yeah, I don't understand why these people want to do it. Like... the lamers I can understand, but I had a game going the other day. It lasted an hour and 3 minutes and it was really intense.


I was in that game too, and saw the deconner (it was "Iam god").

Here's a suggestion; don't allow an IP address to change sides once a game has started. If you start as human, you cannot change to alien while the game is in progress, and vice-versa.

That was a great game, I was really pissed off when they did that. It's the only time I've seen humans come close to winning that map.

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2006, 08:31:34 pm »
I hope this doesn't sound a bit dumb, but why not use the same system used by this forum? Creating new e-mail accounts the whole time should become irritating after awhile.

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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2006, 03:29:32 am »
The problem with preventing people from switching sides is that they arnt doing it for their side, they are doing it simply to ruin the game. I was also in that game where dad did that shit. What i have seen him do is change his name to be the same with someone else, and then getting the other person banned.
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