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Title: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: khalsa on April 02, 2010, 04:35:09 pm
I've written a nice wrap up and summary of what all we did over at http://mercenariesguild.net/
Big thanks to all of you guys for loving Tremulous so much!
See you next April :D


Khalsa
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Aviator on April 02, 2010, 05:14:54 pm
Reading the reactions made me lol  :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: rotacak on April 02, 2010, 07:47:55 pm
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too). ::) I am curious if you will delete all that bullshit threads from this forum. Search function can confuse many players in future.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Undeference on April 02, 2010, 09:47:59 pm
Let me help you out
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be…
…pretty terrible. Quick is not always good. While you may think the joke was pretty convincing after one day, spend a year on it and see if your perspective changes any.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 02, 2010, 09:59:03 pm
Let me help you out
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be…
…pretty terrible. Quick is not always good. While you may think the joke was pretty convincing after one day, spend a year on it and see if your perspective changes any.
He's saying they ignored it for a fucking year.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: amz181 on April 02, 2010, 10:01:11 pm
twas lolsome.

Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: lucifer666s8n on April 02, 2010, 10:36:26 pm
But what about people who hate Microsoft for its closed source stupidity etc... For Darklegion to EVEN JOKE about joining forces with the Bane of Software is the worst idea ever... Not only were players confused as hell, but in my book it made Darklegion look like a sell out.... Open source/free games are hard to find, at least ones that are worth a damn.
 
As far as 1.2 I think they need to look more at the way most games get revamped totally when there is a newer version. From what the forums say is that 1.2 is just about as much a change as a qvm on a different Server. I have seen almost the same type of changes on X (The best server in the Trem Univers... Plug. :laugh:..Plug :laugh:) So for them to claim 1.2 is a new version is a joke as well... Just a long standing April Fools joke... As far as I am concerned a new version would include better rendering, a new style of alien along with the standards... Better maps, better humans, different weapons along with standards... ETC ETC ETC  ;D

But what do I know... I dont kiss anybodies... you know what.... Except of course my ranking server admins....  :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: your face on April 02, 2010, 11:05:25 pm
yeah, we all know that without Microsoft the world would be a perfect place.  ::)

go die, I love Microsoft.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 02, 2010, 11:34:03 pm
yeah, we all know that without Microsoft the world would be a perfect place.  ::)

go die, I love Microsoft.
RRoD
BSoD

Microsoft can suck it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Aviator on April 03, 2010, 05:24:00 am
yeah, we all know that without Microsoft the world would be a perfect place.  ::)

go die, I love Microsoft.
RRoD
BSoD

Microsoft can suck it.
Don't screw the computer up? Either way, nothing is perfect   :-X
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 03, 2010, 05:32:32 am
Let me help you out
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be…
…pretty terrible. Quick is not always good. While you may think the joke was pretty convincing after one day, spend a year on it and see if your perspective changes any.

Quick????

From what ive seen the balance changes are almost identical to tremx which was released YEARS ago by fewer people....
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on April 03, 2010, 06:07:54 am
I haven't played Trem X in a while but... Can you name which changes in 1.2 are almost identical to tremx? Also I highly doubt they had any gameplay tests or used any statistics instead of just adding stuff.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Asvarox on April 03, 2010, 08:52:31 am
Let me help you out
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be…
…pretty terrible. Quick is not always good. While you may think the joke was pretty convincing after one day, spend a year on it and see if your perspective changes any.

Quick????

From what ive seen the balance changes are almost identical to tremx which was released YEARS ago by fewer people....
It's because tremX and many other X's were copying the changes as they were made. "Main" changes like new turrets, dodge, improved lisks and so on are really old (turrets were first designed by TJW, nut sure about dodge, but I believe it's not a recent change). In planned development games we were playing basically same thing with different numbers, there weren't many bigbig changes (repeater change is relatively new for example).

What I'm trying to say is that many people now think that 1.2 Devs "ripped off" changes from X's while it was vice versa - many X's changes were primarily made by 1.2 Devs.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: mooseberry on April 03, 2010, 11:26:04 pm
Good jokes. Can't wait for next year.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 04, 2010, 05:16:21 am
Asva that may be true, sut that many years for a few number changes??
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Paradox on April 05, 2010, 03:03:05 am
yeah, we all know that without Microsoft the world would be a perfect place.  ::)

go die, I love Microsoft.
RRoD
BSoD

Microsoft can suck it.

Ever have a kernel panic?
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: FisherP on April 05, 2010, 06:16:19 am
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too)....
+1

The only Dev that has posted any sort of news or progress reports on what they are doing on the forums is Norfenstein. All I've seen from the devs is an April Fools day joke that I would say took hours to set up and arrange. If they only spent each maybe 10 minutes (total of one hour which is a fraction of the time it took to set up the joke) I think that the community would be able to treat this joke as that, and not as an insult.

Is 10 minutes now and again too much to ask, or are the devs too high and mighty to deign spend a portion of the joke time to REALLY tell the rest of the players just what's happening.

EDIT: The Trem Devs might themselves be the fools to have done this joke before 1.2 was out. Perhaps after the front page of /. people might come looking at the game, download it, and what will they find? A game that's 4 years old without an official release since then. One in which the client doesn't have rudimentary player ident, or fast http download of maps etc. I don't know if you guys thought about that eh.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Conzul on April 05, 2010, 07:21:00 am
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too)....
+1

The only Dev that has posted any sort of news or progress reports on what they are doing on the forums is Norfenstein. All I've seen from the devs is an April Fools day joke that I would say took hours to set up and arrange. If they only spent each maybe 10 minutes (total of one hour which is a fraction of the time it took to set up the joke) I think that the community would be able to treat this joke as that, and not as an insult.

Is 10 minutes now and again too much to ask, or are the devs too high and mighty to deign spend a portion of the joke time to REALLY tell the rest of the players just what's happening.

EDIT: The Trem Devs might themselves be the fools to have done this joke before 1.2 was out. Perhaps after the front page of /. people might come looking at the game, download it, and what will they find? A game that's 4 years old without an official release since then. One in which the client doesn't have rudimentary player ident, or fast http download of maps etc. I don't know if you guys thought about that eh.

Perhaps they wanted to find how hard to work on it based on the size of the reaction to the fake sellout....? Perhaps, with the reassertion of the community's existence, they will redouble their efforts and present us with a release that is worthy of the title tremulous.....
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: KamikOzzy on April 05, 2010, 08:08:18 am
Anyone else feel like there was a shitload of effort to make april fool's day happen, and not so much effort for anything else? lol
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Aviator on April 05, 2010, 08:24:07 am
Anyone else feel like there was a shitload of effort to make april fool's day happen, and not so much effort for anything else? lol
Yeah, but you gotta admit that this was one hell of a good prank :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: jit on April 05, 2010, 08:35:17 am
it would have been slightly believable if they actually did any of the changes that Timbo listed. If they really did add a new class, i might have believed it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: mooseberry on April 05, 2010, 08:43:03 am
it would have been slightly believable if they actually did any of the changes that Timbo listed. If they really did add a new class, i might have believed it.

>.> <.< ^.^ v.v Good joke.

To everyone, it was a good prank, it was clearly succesful, we know the devs havn't been developing the fastest humanly possible, as many of you have pointed out, but that's the thing... if they are taking this time on 1.2, how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference? Answer: It really isn't. Lighten up, laugh, or at the very least don't go on complaining about it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: tuple on April 05, 2010, 01:39:54 pm
actually, setting up a website is not all that time consuming, particularly if you stick with templates.  I set up a test wordpress environment, including plugins and security considerations in under an hour and could get it done even quicker if I cared to.  Once you've done it a few times its not exactly brain surgery.  But even if it is, I certainly am not going to go apeshit over some coders blowing off steam and having a bit of fun on the anniversary of D-Day.  Oh wait, this is April 1st?  Then its totally unacceptable! Ok, a bit snarky but I hope you see my point ;)

Seriously though, someone threatened to kill timbo over it!  While I wish that individual would have thought better than to threaten violence its still shows how successful the fooling was ;)

But from this day forward, no devs shall be allowed to observe holidays in deference to the work thats needed on tremulous!No xmas for you Khalsa! :Pand yes, I know ;)

Oh, and if you want news idle in IRC and look for messages from CIA, those are commits to trunk, which is whats going in.  Or you can just observe the dev chat.  You can also check
here (http://"http://bugzilla.icculus.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&content=&product=Tremulous&query_format=specific&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=") which is news of what people have found and/or reported including any developer responses/work thats gone into it.  Also, stannum reports on his progress quite frequently and even has people reporting on his progress (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=11873.0), not to mention easy to find news directly from him if you care to remember.

Hey, look (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=13174.0), more news :)  Buildlog and revert being tested though not in trunk (which you could track by watching out for CIA in irc ;) )

Can we also remember that some of the tremulous main devs are ioquake devs too?  Shouldn't changes to ioquake be included into the considerations of how much is being done and when?

Granted the tremulous devs have a long way to go before they can start a 24hr news channel but there is a lot out there.  The devs just need to declare war on some small country to up their ratings!

Again, snarky, I know.  My mother is worse though ;)
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: janev on April 05, 2010, 01:50:57 pm
/rant aimed at the idiots crying foul about the april fool joke, as well as for my own shits & giggles.

Stop with the teen indignation, please. The fact of the matter is you have no right to make demands about how people spend their free time. The devs can spend their time developing tremulous, making April fools jokes or masturbating to final fantasy screenshots, if they are so inclined, and you would still have nothing to say about it. If you can't accept that you are in for some pretty rude awakenings in life.

/rant off.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 05, 2010, 02:08:33 pm
Ive been on IRC 3x and each of the three times I have asked why is 1.2 taking so long, and no one answers the question

devs:blablablalba
nubcake: whats taking 1.2 so long?
devs: (silence)
random guy: you guys rock
devs:  blablablabla
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: tuple on April 05, 2010, 03:19:25 pm
/rant aimed at the idiots crying foul about the april fool joke, as well as for my own shits & giggles.

Stop with the teen indignation, please. The fact of the matter is you have no right to make demands about how people spend their free time. The devs can spend their time developing tremulous, making April fools jokes or masturbating to final fantasy screenshots, if they are so inclined, and you would still have nothing to say about it. If you can't accept that you are in for some pretty rude awakenings in life.

/rant off.
I think my way of stating it was more polite, though your way is more true :)
edit: your for you're
Ive been on IRC 3x and each of the three times I have asked why is 1.2 taking so long, and no one answers the question

I've been on irc a few times, this time its lasted - Uptime: 56d 20h 38m 7s
IRC is not instant messaging.  Its more closely related to forums, you connect and ask your question and then wait for a reply.  Sometimes you get a reply quickly, sometimes the person who knows the answer doesn't see it for a few days or misses is entirely and you may need to ask again.  Sometimes its better to ask who's the best person to ask and then highlight that person with your question.  See, the problem is that all the uppity developers are so rude as to have lives that doesn't coincide with my need for information! (thats sarcasm by the way >.>)  Of course, a specific question is much much more likely to get a response.  An ambiguous question like "What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?" will very potentially elicit no response or a joke response from those of us in the peanut gallery :D
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Haraldx on April 05, 2010, 04:08:03 pm
It was too easy for me to say it was actually a joke. Why the fuck microsoft should buy a indie game without ANY commercial stuff. Microsoft wouldn't gain totaly anything from it, even if they would buy tremulous. Librelous, was a very huge piece of crap and I still don't understand what it was mean't to be... FAIL
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 05, 2010, 04:39:10 pm
tuple i dont understand why asking whats taking so long is such an open ended question?

lol@haraldx
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: GLAMEOW on April 05, 2010, 05:47:19 pm
i actually fell for this prank like 3 days AFTER april fools

i was actually going to buy the xbox version of tremulous....

even though i don't even have a XboX!!!!!

gj you crafty bastards
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: your face on April 05, 2010, 06:42:15 pm
Wow Haraldx, you are SO clever!  Look at you!  You figured out it was a joke all by yourself!  Congratulations!

Ive been on IRC 3x and each of the three times I have asked why is 1.2 taking so long, and no one answers the question

Ever thought that because no one answers is because they are so tired of answering the same question over and over again?
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: rotacak on April 05, 2010, 07:14:38 pm
how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: David on April 05, 2010, 08:14:44 pm
Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: mooseberry on April 05, 2010, 09:04:42 pm
how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: khalsa on April 05, 2010, 09:12:34 pm
Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: GLAMEOW on April 05, 2010, 09:26:09 pm
Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

wow, some people are really just giant douchebags, here to clean the earth of all intelligence

David, you are one of those douchebags

you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

wtf shit have you been smoking... pass it around dude!
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 05, 2010, 09:29:52 pm
Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

 8) <3

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

wow, some people are really just giant douchebags, here to clean the earth of all intelligence

David, you are one of those douchebags

oh, and have a nice day :)

At least his posts are constructive.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: gimhael on April 05, 2010, 10:20:59 pm
how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

I think rotacak did not complain so much about the "lost" development time for 1.2, but about the prehistoric 1.1.0 client being still on the download page.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Ryanw4390 on April 05, 2010, 10:36:31 pm
Before I comment on anything else, very good job on the prank guys. Fooled me and a few other people too :d

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

I think rotacak did not complain so much about the "lost" development time for 1.2, but about the prehistoric 1.1.0 client being still on the download page.


I didn't even realize they had that old client still on as the download. A client that could download the new maps automatically + a GUID would have done a lot to bring in more players and less ATCS only servers :) By now though I'm not sure it would make much of a difference.

Just curious though, will the final 1.2 client have the website download for maps automatically turned on + include a GUID?
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: khalsa on April 05, 2010, 10:43:32 pm
you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

David is not joking or being insulting - I am not a coder or modeller for Tremulous.

Just curious though, will the final 1.2 client have the website download for maps automatically turned on + include a GUID?

The GPP client already provides this, and yes, the 1.2 final will have this.

Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: rotacak on April 05, 2010, 10:45:09 pm
how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.
Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Silo on April 06, 2010, 12:16:52 am
Quote from: rotacak
Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.

And I did fall for it, for about 5 seconds until I seen the datestamp.
It was funny, and I'm glad you all had a laugh or two. But it scared me...
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: GLAMEOW on April 06, 2010, 12:40:57 am
you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

David is not joking or being insulting - I am not a coder or modeler for Tremulous.

i thought the little icon below your name "developer" automatically meant that u were a coder :P

oh, and i still mean those generic hurtful (attempting to be) things i said about you david...... syke

I don't like when people bash a free game.... i mean it's free for Christ sake!

i payed my $20 for this game when i went and bought one of those trem shirts ^^

unfortunately noone knows the game when they see it.... nor can they pronounce it right :/
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Can't Let It Go
Post by: player1 on April 06, 2010, 05:41:20 am
how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.
Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

DIY, fool (http://wonderfultimejoker.ytmnd.com/).
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Manbearpig@SRM on April 06, 2010, 09:51:21 am
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too). ::) I am curious if you will delete all that bullshit threads from this forum. Search function can confuse many players in future.


What a spoiled little brat you are.  Noone owes you a damn thing, and the sooner you get that through your thick skull the better. 
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 06, 2010, 10:30:51 am
If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too). ::) I am curious if you will delete all that bullshit threads from this forum. Search function can confuse many players in future.


What a spoiled little brat you are.  Noone owes you a damn thing, and the sooner you get that through your thick skull the better. 

Fisherp and rotakak are both server operators and afaik have spent alot of time making qvms, setting up servers etc. Whilst they ARENT owed anything they probably feel frustrated that the game theyve spent so much time/money/effort on is slowly dying.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Manbearpig@SRM on April 06, 2010, 12:20:43 pm
I own X and A servers :P  I personally spend over 150/month hosting them, so that explanation isnt going to fly.  

On the other hand, im not really much invested into 1.2 at all, i dont plan to put up a 1.2 server unless it develops a larger playerbase.  
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Asvarox on April 06, 2010, 12:24:24 pm
I own X and A servers :P
It's not something I'd be proud of :P
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Manbearpig@SRM on April 06, 2010, 12:32:39 pm
I own X and A servers :P
It's not something I'd be proud of :P

Proud of hosting the most popular tremulous server? I absolutely am.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Asvarox on April 06, 2010, 12:40:44 pm
I own X and A servers :P
It's not something I'd be proud of :P

Proud of hosting the most popular tremulous server? I absolutely am.

Jonas Brothers are popular too.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: nubcake on April 06, 2010, 03:05:09 pm
I own X and A servers :P  I personally spend over 150/month hosting them, so that explanation isnt going to fly.  

On the other hand, im not really much invested into 1.2 at all, i dont plan to put up a 1.2 server unless it develops a larger playerbase.  

No offence but it doesnt really apply to you because X and A dont play according to trem rules anyway. A 1.1 or 1.2 would make squat difference to your servers.... (thanks for hosting ma maps none the less)
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: rotacak on April 06, 2010, 06:36:27 pm
Quote from: rotacak
Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.
No.

And I not need new client (I know how to use new client), even not need 1.2 (because I don't like it). So, I don't know, why devs should work for ME.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Silo on April 06, 2010, 06:45:49 pm
Quote from: rotacak
Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.
No.

And I not need new client (I know how to use new client), even not need 1.2 (because I don't like it). So, I don't know, why devs should work for ME.
*facepalm*

Missed my point this time...
Let's try again:
They, the devs.
Do not, as in no.
Work for you.
I can see that English must not be your first language, and I understand that. So I'll use Easylish: You are not their boss.
Make more sense?
(If they want to spend their free time typing a joke, that's their business. And at least they updated some news)

Edit: Please don't reply.... I don't want to spend more time trying to explain. - Happy Drowsy Driver Awareness Day!
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: rotacak on April 06, 2010, 06:54:24 pm
Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: superspirality on April 06, 2010, 07:37:03 pm
I knew that was a joke and that was a neat joke. I think at least 40% believed in it.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: Silo on April 06, 2010, 08:00:40 pm
Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.

Well then it's obvious we both didn't understand. :p
Quote from: rotacak
Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".
But that seems a bit... well.. "You gave me a game" " And now you're doing something else?" "I want an update"
May not be commanding, but it's somewhat demanding. Not trying to be rude. I get what you tried to convey though.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: FisherP on April 06, 2010, 09:46:12 pm
Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.

Well then it's obvious we both didn't understand. :p
Quote from: rotacak
Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".
But that seems a bit... well.. "You gave me a game" " And now you're doing something else?" "I want an update"
May not be commanding, but it's somewhat demanding. Not trying to be rude. I get what you tried to convey though.

I don't see anything wrong with rotacak's reasonable request. A selection of the posts on the NEWS section are listed below, I've condensed the list a little removing related articles that occur within weeks of each other.

To be fair, there's been 15 news items in the last 12 months, 7 of which reference work on 1.2. while only 5 of those give any information about the progress of 1.2. Two of those 5 are regarding the gameplay changes. There is one informing us that MG have merged with truck (for the details see the svn). One refers to the auto-download feature showing up a prompt if cl_autoDownload is set to 0. The last is a report on a couple of preliminary alien models that I guess Stannum has been working on. I assume that there's more that's been done on 1.2 since the Community Spotlight last November.
Title: Re: Foolish Fools are Foolish
Post by: player1 on April 07, 2010, 02:42:49 am
(http://rlv.zcache.com/dont_look_a_gift_horse_proverb_magnet-p147432050523948433q6ju_400.jpg)
Title: Thanks, guys!
Post by: Undeference on April 07, 2010, 03:30:01 am
You just wasted valuable time I could have spent masturbating to final fantasy screenshots developing Tremulous.
Title: Re: Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up
Post by: janev on April 09, 2010, 10:11:35 am
meh, wrong thread.