Tremulous Fools Day Wrap up

[rotacak]

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

[David]

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

[mooseberry]

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

[khalsa]

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

[GLAMEOW]

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

wow, some people are really just giant douchebags, here to clean the earth of all intelligence

David, you are one of those douchebags

you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

wtf shit have you been smoking... pass it around dude!

[CreatureofHell]

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

  <3

Khalsa made the site, and did most of the work on it.
He's also not a coder / modeller / doing anything that 1.2 is waiting on.
The people 1.2 is waiting on weren't really all that involved.

I'm basically here just to make jokes.

wow, some people are really just giant douchebags, here to clean the earth of all intelligence

David, you are one of those douchebags

oh, and have a nice day

At least his posts are constructive.

[gimhael]

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

I think rotacak did not complain so much about the "lost" development time for 1.2, but about the prehistoric 1.1.0 client being still on the download page.

[Ryanw4390]

Before I comment on anything else, very good job on the prank guys. Fooled me and a few other people too :d

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

I think rotacak did not complain so much about the "lost" development time for 1.2, but about the prehistoric 1.1.0 client being still on the download page.

I didn't even realize they had that old client still on as the download. A client that could download the new maps automatically + a GUID would have done a lot to bring in more players and less ATCS only servers By now though I'm not sure it would make much of a difference.

Just curious though, will the final 1.2 client have the website download for maps automatically turned on + include a GUID?

[khalsa]

you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

David is not joking or being insulting - I am not a coder or modeller for Tremulous.

Just curious though, will the final 1.2 client have the website download for maps automatically turned on + include a GUID?

The GPP client already provides this, and yes, the 1.2 final will have this.

[rotacak]

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

[Silo]

Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.

And I did fall for it, for about 5 seconds until I seen the datestamp.
It was funny, and I'm glad you all had a laugh or two. But it scared me...

[GLAMEOW]

you come here and tell one of the devs that they arn't a coder/modeler?

David is not joking or being insulting - I am not a coder or modeler for Tremulous.

i thought the little icon below your name "developer" automatically meant that u were a coder

oh, and i still mean those generic hurtful (attempting to be) things i said about you david...... syke

I don't like when people bash a free game.... i mean it's free for Christ sake!

i payed my $20 for this game when i went and bought one of those trem shirts ^^

unfortunately noone knows the game when they see it.... nor can they pronounce it right :/

[player1]

how the hell is 1 or 2 days working on a prank going to make a difference?

One, two days work can help really much with progress. But even if we forget about 1.2. Only few hours is enough for replacing old non-guid, non-autodownload 1.1 client with new version and upload new package to server. That would be high help.

Well than if you don't see a new client, new server, or new models made today you should complain right? One or two days could be a lot of work it's true, but that doesn't mean the devs should or will be making that much progress every day (or every month). Look, bottom line is its a free open source game that they work on in their free time to make for you, if they didn't make a lot of progress today, maybe it was because they were at work, or with friends, or masturbating to final fantasy with janev.

Work isn't going to be done constantly or consistently, and seeing as how I know you've been around tremulous for more than a month I don't see how you don't understand it.

If you are making all these complaints because you fell for it and now feel embarrassed, that would be silly, but at least you have a reason. If not, you are really just arguing for no reason and being unreasonable. It is now April 5th, so I'll say it again: It was a joke, get over it.

Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

DIY, fool.

[Manbearpig@SRM]

If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too). I am curious if you will delete all that bullshit threads from this forum. Search function can confuse many players in future.

What a spoiled little brat you are.  Noone owes you a damn thing, and the sooner you get that through your thick skull the better. 

[nubcake]

If you pay same attention to 1.2, then it would be already done. Instead of that you creating nonsense websites/trackers/forums/map/qvm and making fools from good peoples around (bad too). I am curious if you will delete all that bullshit threads from this forum. Search function can confuse many players in future.

What a spoiled little brat you are.  Noone owes you a damn thing, and the sooner you get that through your thick skull the better. 

Fisherp and rotakak are both server operators and afaik have spent alot of time making qvms, setting up servers etc. Whilst they ARENT owed anything they probably feel frustrated that the game theyve spent so much time/money/effort on is slowly dying.

[Manbearpig@SRM]

I own X and A servers  I personally spend over 150/month hosting them, so that explanation isnt going to fly.  

On the other hand, im not really much invested into 1.2 at all, i dont plan to put up a 1.2 server unless it develops a larger playerbase.  

[Asvarox]

I own X and A servers

It's not something I'd be proud of

[Manbearpig@SRM]

I own X and A servers

It's not something I'd be proud of

Proud of hosting the most popular tremulous server? I absolutely am.

[Asvarox]

I own X and A servers

It's not something I'd be proud of

Proud of hosting the most popular tremulous server? I absolutely am.

Jonas Brothers are popular too.

[nubcake]

I own X and A servers  I personally spend over 150/month hosting them, so that explanation isnt going to fly.  

On the other hand, im not really much invested into 1.2 at all, i dont plan to put up a 1.2 server unless it develops a larger playerbase.  

No offence but it doesnt really apply to you because X and A dont play according to trem rules anyway. A 1.1 or 1.2 would make squat difference to your servers.... (thanks for hosting ma maps none the less)

[rotacak]

Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.

No.

And I not need new client (I know how to use new client), even not need 1.2 (because I don't like it). So, I don't know, why devs should work for ME.

[Silo]

Making this long essay is not needed. Because I know that all. I saying that all that "joke work" should be targetted to better things, than making fools from community.

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

Btw, I not belived that joke.

Well, you seem to be missing the point of.. they don't work for you.

No.

And I not need new client (I know how to use new client), even not need 1.2 (because I don't like it). So, I don't know, why devs should work for ME.

*facepalm*

Missed my point this time...
Let's try again:
They, the devs.
Do not, as in no.
Work for you.
I can see that English must not be your first language, and I understand that. So I'll use Easylish: You are not their boss.
Make more sense?
(If they want to spend their free time typing a joke, that's their business. And at least they updated some news)

Edit: Please don't reply.... I don't want to spend more time trying to explain. - Happy Drowsy Driver Awareness Day!

[rotacak]

Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.

[superspirality]

I knew that was a joke and that was a neat joke. I think at least 40% believed in it.

[Silo]

Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.

Well then it's obvious we both didn't understand. :p

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

But that seems a bit... well.. "You gave me a game" " And now you're doing something else?" "I want an update"
May not be commanding, but it's somewhat demanding. Not trying to be rude. I get what you tried to convey though.

[FisherP]

Silo: yes, my english is bad, so you still explaining me that I cannot command devs and I explaining to you that I not commanding them... Even highlight in quote not helped.

Well then it's obvious we both didn't understand. :p

Around is many requests from community, why is there nothing new? Why is not there 1.2? Why is on dwn page still old client? Ok, devs have their lives. But suddently there appear somewhat "joke" only for making fools from peoples whose belived in it. All that work for nothing or mainly negative feedback. And we still have old client and waiting for new things. I not commanding devs what they should have do, I only posting my opinion on this wasted work on "joke".

But that seems a bit... well.. "You gave me a game" " And now you're doing something else?" "I want an update"
May not be commanding, but it's somewhat demanding. Not trying to be rude. I get what you tried to convey though.

I don't see anything wrong with rotacak's reasonable request. A selection of the posts on the NEWS section are listed below, I've condensed the list a little removing related articles that occur within weeks of each other.

• Timbo, Thursday 1st of April 2010 08:11:05 GMT - Future of Tremulous
• Khalsa, Saturday 21st of November 2009 14:03:31 GMT - Community Spotlight #1 (Topic Preliminary models, new maps, and random artwork
• Khalsa, Tuesday 20th of October 2009 09:01:35 GMT - Possible data breach: updates and details.
• Khalsa, Tuesday 6th of October 2009 10:14:28 GMT - Development Branch Merged!
• Khalsa, Tuesday 21st of July 2009 13:25:21 GMT - Download prompt committed
• Khalsa, Wednesday 6th of May 2009 16:08:08 GMT - Help stress test the new master server
• Khalsa, Sunday 14th of December 2008 06:56:40 GMT - Tremulous Merchandise!

To be fair, there's been 15 news items in the last 12 months, 7 of which reference work on 1.2. while only 5 of those give any information about the progress of 1.2. Two of those 5 are regarding the gameplay changes. There is one informing us that MG have merged with truck (for the details see the svn). One refers to the auto-download feature showing up a prompt if cl_autoDownload is set to 0. The last is a report on a couple of preliminary alien models that I guess Stannum has been working on. I assume that there's more that's been done on 1.2 since the Community Spotlight last November.

[player1]

[Undeference]

You just wasted valuable time I could have spent masturbating to final fantasy screenshots developing Tremulous.

[janev]

meh, wrong thread.