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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Venkman on July 13, 2010, 02:36:57 am
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These days, it seems like a lot of people are wondering why the Trem-player community is dying off.
Is it the transition to 1.2? Is it just too old of a game? Are newer shooters like MW2 and the like simply elbowing in on our players' time?
I can't tell you the answers to these questions.
What I can tell you is that sexually frustrated pub-admins aren't exactly helping to recruit new players into the fold. What with their obnoxious bickering and constant insisting that EVERYONE ELSE is a noob and the fact that they have to slash at any Mara that even LOOKS like it might block them for a moment when rounding a blind corner in the A.T.C.S hallway.
These same guys always seem to forget that they're playing on UNLAGGED and that the player on the other end only sees an empty corner and then a Rant slashing them before they can even BEGIN to move out of the way. Or maybe they simply think the bouncing Mara is purposefully trying to block them, I don't know. I'm not them. To me, these things just seem petty and kind of sad.
Not that all Admins are like this. I've actually met way more helpful admins than asshole ones. It's just that the friendly ones never seem to be on (maybe because they are not socially inept and have lives) and the dicks are always there, just waiting to try and fuck up a good game.
I don't need to name any names, because most of us already know exactly who I'm talking about. Like I said, the player community is getting smaller and smaller.
And then these same disgruntled admins, they complain that everyone on their server is "a n00b" while simultaneously treating EVERY PLAYER ON THERE like an annoyance. As if they actually think anyone but a complete idiot would consider being treated like shit a good way to spend their time.
"Yeah, guys! Let's all stick around while this desperate man-child we can't kick TK's on a whim and calls us all 'rtarded'!"
No thanks. I already HAVE a job. This is when I'm trying to have fun.
Anyway, I just wanted to state my case and make a simple request:
To anyone who personally knows an admin matching the above description, PLEASE TRY TO GET THEM LAID. It will make the world a slightly more tolerable place for said Admin and at the same time you will be doing your part to SAVE TREMULOUS by making the server a better place for players.
Thanks for reading. Flame if you must.
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Thanks for reading. Flame if you must.
no it's fine; everyone needs to vent once in a while. I just tend to ignore people on the severs that are just trying to pick a fight
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Lol.
Save Tremulous by Getting Laid!!
Thats what I got from this :D
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I personally apologize for every teamkill that I do.
I am constantly sending nOObs PM's about why they shouldn't put that there.
I like cookies.
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I like cookies.
Can't blame ya for that.
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I do pretty much the same as Conzul. I apologize on both public and team chat when I TK, which is all accidents. I will usually at first try to tell a bad builder to stop building, and I mean c'mon, who DOESN'T like cookies?
I wonder if we had enough adv. maras to keep a constant supply of zapiness, could they power an oven to make all the hummies cookies so they could all get along. I mean really: dretch only wants to hug your face, adv mara wants to be your rave hat, basi your regular hat, rant wants to give you a bear hug, goon wants to play tag, and granger just wants you to not harm friend granger... and maybe to be your pillow at a sleep-in.
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Neither can I. Cookies are awesome, especially in dough form.
And, yeah, I try to be noob-friendly as well by telling bad builders what's wrong, why, and how to fix it. Though, my motivation are kind of selfish. Basically, I'm sick of ALWAYS having to build.
It would be nice to have some noobs who didn't mind camping base the whole game AND knew how to build.
MOMENTS LATER
Lol, Deadbeat. Missed your reply when I started mine.
Agreed, TKing requires, at the very least, an apology. If you don't have enough to share, oh well, but a "srry dude" goes a long way on its own.
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You know what's funny?
Someone gave me a -1 to my ret count, yet EVERY REPLY so far has been positive.
Which means ONE OF THESE SEXUAL FRUSTRATED ADMINS MUST HAVE READ THIS THREAD.
So awesome.
I'm not too concerned about the -1 ret. I just hope the dude actually thinks about what I said, for the sake of his penis at least.
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I just posted 5 sentances yelling about my karma, but I don't really care about it.
Lols, if you don't care, ignore it. ::)
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Its weird. Around here, having a big stack of negative karma kinda has a panache to it. Wii R sdrawkcab
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You know what's funny?
Someone gave me a -1 to my ret count, yet EVERY REPLY so far has been positive.
Which means ONE OF THESE SEXUAL FRUSTRATED ADMINS MUST HAVE READ THIS THREAD.
So awesome.
I'm not too concerned about the -1 ret. I just hope the dude actually thinks about what I said, for the sake of his penis at least.
Lols, if you don't care, ignore it. ::)
I'm sorry I didn't use emoticons or whatever to help you pinpoint my exact emotional state there but, incase you couldn't tell, "So awesome" isn't exactly bitching ;) Which is also most likely why you went out of your way to change my quote in your originally reply instead of just inserting it as is.
On a side note: I think we might have located one of these sexually-frustrated admins! Yah! :D
Now guys, PLEASE make sure to do what you can to help Mooseberry get laid so we can all save Tremulous!
[For those who cannot read or do not understand words, my emotional state during this comment was: :laugh: with a little bit of ::)]
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only /v/irgins play /v/idya games
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LOL! Apparently so...
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Stupid Iphone double-post... Sorry.
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You know what's funny?
Someone gave me a -1 to my ret count, yet EVERY REPLY so far has been positive.
Which means ONE OF THESE SEXUAL FRUSTRATED ADMINS MUST HAVE READ THIS THREAD.
So awesome.
I'm not too concerned about the -1 ret. I just hope the dude actually thinks about what I said, for the sake of his penis at least.
Lols, if you don't care, ignore it. ::)
I'm sorry I didn't use emoticons or whatever to help you pinpoint my exact emotional state there but, incase you couldn't tell, "So awesome" isn't exactly bitching ;) Which is also most likely why you went out of your way to change my quote in your originally reply instead of just inserting it as is.
On a side note: I think we might have located one of these sexually-frustrated admins! Yah! :D
Now guys, PLEASE make sure to do what you can to help Mooseberry get laid so we can all save Tremulous!
[For those who cannot read or do not understand words, my emotional state during this comment was: :laugh: with a little bit of ::)]
You still wasted the time to make a post about it, no, 2 now, so you obviously do care. I posted about the karma thing, not your admin, post which I do not care about, and I do not have admin on any servers so...
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I've actually met way more helpful admins than asshole ones. It's just that the friendly ones never seem to be on (maybe because they are not socially inept and have lives) and the dicks are always there, just waiting to try and fuck up a good game.
A counterpoint: maybe the helpful admins are having sex too much. Otherwise, they would have more time to be playing and "the dicks…just waiting to try and fuck" you would be outnumbered at any given time.
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As an admin on US1, I have to say Venkman, you couldn't be more wrong.
I am up to my eyeballs in sex, except for that one tall girl, she's above my eyeballs.
I have so much sex, my room is packed with people who are waiting.
Really, anytime any of us super-cool admins do something that seems irritable, it's because our super-cool selves are having sex on our keyboards and it randomly mashes out those conversations.
In fact, if you're doing anything besides having tons of awesome sex while having Tremulous, you're playing the game the totally wrong way.
People who leave Tremulous don't leave because they are bored; it's because they have to take the computers out of their room to have more room to fit the women just lining up for them.
Take Thirdstreettito for example, obviously, he is having lots of sex right now.
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You know what's funny?
Someone gave me a -1 to my ret count, yet EVERY REPLY so far has been positive.
Which means ONE OF THESE SEXUAL FRUSTRATED ADMINS MUST HAVE READ THIS THREAD.
So awesome.
I'm not too concerned about the -1 ret. I just hope the dude actually thinks about what I said, for the sake of his penis at least.
Lols, if you don't care, ignore it. ::)
I'm sorry I didn't use emoticons or whatever to help you pinpoint my exact emotional state there but, incase you couldn't tell, "So awesome" isn't exactly bitching ;) Which is also most likely why you went out of your way to change my quote in your originally reply instead of just inserting it as is.
On a side note: I think we might have located one of these sexually-frustrated admins! Yah! :D
Now guys, PLEASE make sure to do what you can to help Mooseberry get laid so we can all save Tremulous!
[For those who cannot read or do not understand words, my emotional state during this comment was: :laugh: with a little bit of ::)]
You still wasted the time to make a post about it, no, 2 now, so you obviously do care. I posted about the karma thing, not your admin, post which I do not care about, and I do not have admin on any servers so...
Now it's 3. And I never said I didn't care. That's... and see if you can follow this... EXACTLY WHY I WROTE THE THREAD. Because I care about Tremulous.
All I did in my second reply was merely point out how inaccurate your definition of the verb "bitch" is. And in this one, I'm merely pointing out that "care" is not a synonym for "bitch", even though you clearly seem to think it is.
Unless, of course, that's just back-peddling.
Now ask me, if I was REALLY concerned about my Trem forum karma, why would I bother to argue with such an obvious troll who will no doubt give a -1 to every post I make from here on out simply because he sees my name on it?
I must just be some kind of sick internet masochist.
As an admin on US1, I have to say Venkman, you couldn't be more wrong.
I am up to my eyeballs in sex, except for that one tall girl, she's above my eyeballs.
I have so much sex, my room is packed with people who are waiting.
Really, anytime any of us super-cool admins do something that seems irritable, it's because our super-cool selves are having sex on our keyboards and it randomly mashes out those conversations.
In fact, if you're doing anything besides having tons of awesome sex while having Tremulous, you're playing the game the totally wrong way.
People who leave Tremulous don't leave because they are bored; it's because they have to take the computers out of their room to have more room to fit the women just lining up for them.
Take Thirdstreettito for example, obviously, he is having lots of sex right now.
I have to admit I honestly never considered that a possibility. Usually, my girlfriend has to compete with my video-game time. But, this way, she can finally participate and EVERYBODY WINS!
Thank you, KillerWhale, for opening my eyes.
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Also Tremulous is a pretty difficult game to pick up..
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Lol@Whales
He's loading! :D
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As an admin on AA, I always go out of my way to make sure I slash all passing maras, basis, and dretches; denybuild anyone who builds anything I don't like; and also abuse my vote kick immunity to tk everyone near me and tk the turrets because I like the smoke that comes out of them. Also, I enjoy dishing out permabans on a regular basis. I have a quota you see. Furthermore, if I get hopped, I make sure to build the rc and pause the game immediately so it can finish building while flaming out the other team.
But, all the new players like me ???
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These days, it seems like a lot of people are wondering why the Trem-player community is dying off.
Is it the transition to 1.2? Is it just too old of a game? Are newer shooters like MW2 and the like simply elbowing in on our players' time?
I can't tell you the answers to these questions.
What I can tell you is that sexually frustrated pub-admins aren't exactly helping to recruit new players into the fold. What with their obnoxious bickering and constant insisting that EVERYONE ELSE is a noob and the fact that they have to slash at any Mara that even LOOKS like it might block them for a moment when rounding a blind corner in the A.T.C.S hallway.
These same guys always seem to forget that they're playing on UNLAGGED and that the player on the other end only sees an empty corner and then a Rant slashing them before they can even BEGIN to move out of the way. Or maybe they simply think the bouncing Mara is purposefully trying to block them, I don't know. I'm not them. To me, these things just seem petty and kind of sad.
Not that all Admins are like this. I've actually met way more helpful admins than asshole ones. It's just that the friendly ones never seem to be on (maybe because they are not socially inept and have lives) and the dicks are always there, just waiting to try and fuck up a good game.
I don't need to name any names, because most of us already know exactly who I'm talking about. Like I said, the player community is getting smaller and smaller.
And then these same disgruntled admins, they complain that everyone on their server is "a n00b" while simultaneously treating EVERY PLAYER ON THERE like an annoyance. As if they actually think anyone but a complete idiot would consider being treated like shit a good way to spend their time.
"Yeah, guys! Let's all stick around while this desperate man-child we can't kick TK's on a whim and calls us all 'rtarded'!"
No thanks. I already HAVE a job. This is when I'm trying to have fun.
Anyway, I just wanted to state my case and make a simple request:
To anyone who personally knows an admin matching the above description, PLEASE TRY TO GET THEM LAID. It will make the world a slightly more tolerable place for said Admin and at the same time you will be doing your part to SAVE TREMULOUS by making the server a better place for players.
Thanks for reading. Flame if you must.
NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT SO SERIOUSLY... WE ARE USED TO IT I THINK /..............
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biggig, I think your caps lock key got stuck, maybe you should clean your keyboard.
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CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!11!!!!!!!
Seriously though, stop wih the capslock stupid posts
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IT'S BILLY MAYS MODE, NOT CAPSLOCK.
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It's a spambot <.<
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I'm not sure if I pulled the right meaning out of it but, lol (should I be laughing?).
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As an admin on US1, I have to say Venkman, you couldn't be more wrong.
I am up to my eyeballs in sex, except for that one tall girl, she's above my eyeballs.
I have so much sex, my room is packed with people who are waiting.
Really, anytime any of us super-cool admins do something that seems irritable, it's because our super-cool selves are having sex on our keyboards and it randomly mashes out those conversations.
In fact, if you're doing anything besides having tons of awesome sex while having Tremulous, you're playing the game the totally wrong way.
People who leave Tremulous don't leave because they are bored; it's because they have to take the computers out of their room to have more room to fit the women just lining up for them.
Take Thirdstreettito for example, obviously, he is having lots of sex right now.
Tremulous admins are pimps! Who'd have thunk it? :D
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These days, it seems like a lot of people are wondering why the Trem-player community is dying off.
Is it the transition to 1.2? Is it just too old of a game? Are newer shooters like MW2 and the like simply elbowing in on our players' time?
I can't tell you the answers to these questions.
What I can tell you is that sexually frustrated pub-admins aren't exactly helping to recruit new players into the fold. What with their obnoxious bickering and constant insisting that EVERYONE ELSE is a noob and the fact that they have to slash at any Mara that even LOOKS like it might block them for a moment when rounding a blind corner in the A.T.C.S hallway.
These same guys always seem to forget that they're playing on UNLAGGED and that the player on the other end only sees an empty corner and then a Rant slashing them before they can even BEGIN to move out of the way. Or maybe they simply think the bouncing Mara is purposefully trying to block them, I don't know. I'm not them. To me, these things just seem petty and kind of sad.
Not that all Admins are like this. I've actually met way more helpful admins than asshole ones. It's just that the friendly ones never seem to be on (maybe because they are not socially inept and have lives) and the dicks are always there, just waiting to try and fuck up a good game.
I don't need to name any names, because most of us already know exactly who I'm talking about. Like I said, the player community is getting smaller and smaller.
And then these same disgruntled admins, they complain that everyone on their server is "a n00b" while simultaneously treating EVERY PLAYER ON THERE like an annoyance. As if they actually think anyone but a complete idiot would consider being treated like shit a good way to spend their time.
"Yeah, guys! Let's all stick around while this desperate man-child we can't kick TK's on a whim and calls us all 'rtarded'!"
No thanks. I already HAVE a job. This is when I'm trying to have fun.
Anyway, I just wanted to state my case and make a simple request:
To anyone who personally knows an admin matching the above description, PLEASE TRY TO GET THEM LAID. It will make the world a slightly more tolerable place for said Admin and at the same time you will be doing your part to SAVE TREMULOUS by making the server a better place for players.
Thanks for reading. Flame if you must.
Nice someone told this.
Yes, it's true that admins are bad. And even not sometimes. Then, lets hope that in 1.2(full not that GPP):
1.Starting server will be easier
2.Ability to kick player from team without having countervotes from other team. Like BTKFH(bastard teamkillers from Hell)
3.I forgot something?
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Starting servers is already too easy, which is the problem. Once sort by ping is default hopefully all the shitty server will die as their gaming the list won't work. IMO all home-hosted servers should be dropped from the list >_>.
And you can already do team kick votes. /callteamvote kick.
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Starting servers is already too easy, which is the problem. Once sort by ping is default hopefully all the shitty server will die as their gaming the list won't work. IMO all home-hosted servers should be dropped from the list >_>.
And you can already do team kick votes. /callteamvote kick.
@Servers: Maybe starting servers on windows(on linux crap. on mac holly crapolly lolliez and da stuff=impossible(except tjw). Maybe every trem community could start server and it would show in master srv list. All homestartedretarded servers wouldn't show. And all problems witth chinese flood of trem servs will be gone.
@Votes: Oh really? Thanks.
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Maybe every trem community could start server and it would show in master srv list. All homestartedretarded servers wouldn't show. And all problems witth chinese flood of trem servs will be gone.
That's a good idea.
Also, the word "homestartedretarded"? ...Awesome.
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So how we can say it to devs they should use it(idea) while programming server part?
This: Dear Sir/Ma'am, the Community wants to get rid off unused servers, because Tremulous Community is dying out and just 2 Officials(servers) will be useful with THAT amount of players?
Or this: As we did brainstorm we found we agree that (cite me!). Please consider(also add re if not succeded) our request.
@David: you said that: Starting servers is already too easy, which is the problem.
You mean starting servers on windows? Yes It Is, but on Windblows.
I'm curious David, how many Linux and Mac (it's all Unix, babe) users you met, that started a homestartedretaded server?
You'll say, that you can't what server is started on Win, Linux or Mac.
Short tutorial of starting servers on Windblows Linux and Mac:
1.Windblows
Open Tremulous, press Play button with LMB and then Create Server also with LMB. Then have fun with settings and press Create. DONE
2.Linux
Linux guys, I won't flame you–your karma says your servers are used for compiling/rendering/responsible playing of Tremulous (Delete unnecessary) DONE
3.Mac
Damm. Most hard one. It Never succeded on my mac:
sorry Lakitu7 – your QVM doesn't fit me(my mac)
and:
sorry MG – your tremded doesn't fit me(my mac)
Only mac exception is TJW but i wonder he's real one(his server not him).
@Kicking: maybe players should accept someones reason of kicking another someone:
Player1 wants to kick player 2 because of: garble garble. Do you agree?
and now voting allowed.
Currently it's voting, the kicked with (votes for yes/no) and reason.
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I've read your post 3 times, and I haven't a clue what it's trying to say.
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Hmm, sorry, I got inspiration. ::)
I mean:
@Speaking with devs: How we will tell devs to make community servers only, as chinese and home started&retarded servs spam master server list and give sad view of dying tremulous community.
@Starting servers: I hope that in 1.2 starting server on linux or mac will be much(hell pain) easier.
Sorry, sorry, sorry I wrote elaborate…
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Greg, did you know 99% of homestarted servers are on Debian or Ubuntu?
Every server named "Tremulous 1.1.0 Server" in the 1.1 master server list is running on Linux.
There aren't as many anymore, but there used to be on the upside of 60 at a time running.
Also, the method you spoke of for a server on Windows is only for LAN and will work fine on any system. Even Macs.
As far as I know, they still have to manually set the heartbeat to 2 and port forward to get it to show on the master server list.
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Damm linuxers.
@Method for windows DOES NOT WORK for mac. Trust me. I'm typing this on one.
if (Heartbeat == Dedicated)
then cout << "it does not work for mac";
else
cout << "even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW" << endl;
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Geez. If you're talking about 1.2, it does work. For me at least, I have Mac OS X 10.5.8 and it actually works the windoze way.
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nice someone with mac posted!
What QVM and tremded.ub are you using to host? How does it work on LAN and net?
I have 10.5 and it does not work any way I try. Daaaamm… >:(
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You know why it's not three clicks to setup a public internet server?
So morons like you don't fucking setup shitball servers that have 999bp and 600 speed and shit. Jesus christ.
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You know why it's not three clicks to setup a public internet server?
So morons like you don't fucking setup shitball servers that have 999bp and 600 speed and shit. Jesus christ.
Moron, who? ME? Is this insult? I tried to
Set up any serv using standard method. I searched for up-to-date QVM and tremded and again it does not work.
I tried to start servers using terminal and again. An error. And NOONE on the forum helped me.
I'm a bit desperate, and then one moron calls me his name. This can make someone frustrate.
You mean 3 clicks? They are too few for those 60 servers on master srv list.
"Moron"
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If you can't figure out how to setup a server, then you don't have the need to run one. It isn't difficult. There are plenty of guides on this forum. The setup is more or less the same as on Linux, I would assume, as they're both *nix-like OSes.
http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=9233.0
Maybe if you use the search button you'll have a better time. Or hey, even Google might help.
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just having that then in there makes me think of bash scripting :(
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if (Server::getInstance()->Heartbeat.type == HeartbeatTypes.Dedicated)
then std::cout << "it does not work for mac" << std::endl;
else
std::cout << "even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW" << std::endl;
your c++ fu is weak
This
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nice someone with mac posted!
What QVM and tremded.ub are you using to host? How does it work on LAN and net?
I have 10.5 and it does not work any way I try. Daaaamm… >:(
I didn't tweak my server files at all.
I just clicked 'Create Server' > 'Settings' > 'Start Server' or something like that. It gave me a server console. Done. Yehoo!
if (Server::getInstance()->Heartbeat.type == HeartbeatTypes.Dedicated)
then std::cout << "it does not work for mac" << std::endl;
else
std::cout << "even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW" << std::endl;
your c++ fu is weak
This
Disregard this, I want it Ruby-Rails-Perl-fu-style!
:heartbeat == 'Dedicated' ? p 'it does not work for mac' : p 'even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW'
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if (Server->Heartbeat.type == HBT_DEDICATED)
printf("it does not work for mac because im not smart enough to read" );
else
printf( "even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW im not smart enough to read" );
your c++C fu is weak
since trem is Cbased let me fix this more
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@Aelita
I WAS THERE. If you would be a little interested/you were thinking what you were doing then know that
LINK IS DOWN SINCE I REMEMBER
@Crava_Loft, no It is not.
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main(){
if (Heartbeat == Dedicated)
then cout << "it does not work for mac";
else
cout << "even now it does not work for mac, sorry TJW" << endl;
}
it was fragment
by the way, nice skill, but you don't need to swagger.
@Conzul: my dear fiend–practice creativity
is it friend or fiend?
@Superspirality: hmm interesting. does not work either ;D
Thx for trying. Really ;)
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You still fail. then is not a valid C++ token.
wat.cpp: In function ‘int main()’:
wat.cpp:6:5: error: ‘Heartbeat’ was not declared in this scope
wat.cpp:6:18: error: ‘Dedicated’ was not declared in this scope
wat.cpp:7:7: error: ‘then’ was not declared in this scope
wat.cpp:7:12: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘cout’
That too. Please, just don't bother. Stop.
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maybe i have buggy compiler ;)