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visitor

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Server hacking
« on: January 13, 2009, 10:24:18 am »
Hi guys, i am just visiting here to try and sort out a problem my clan server has with an =AoW= member.
Yesterday, at aprox' 18:05 UK time, =AoW= ing4ua was banned from our server for using a name hack, he then started to crash our servers continuosly.
We are [SPS], and many =AoW= members use our pad and time servers without any problems.  Any of you who know us, know we do not hack other servers, you will also know we have some top hackers in our clan. I would like this issue solved before there is a war, noone benefits from hacker war, everyone loses. Every clan has rogue members, we police our clan, and discipline any members who have hacked other clan servers.
As i said, this is a freindly visit to try and sort this out, we do not want to ban all =AoW= members, but we will to protect our servers.
Thanks guys.
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Kaleo

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 10:27:36 am »
Well, you might want to start posting in the correct area.

Also, what is a "Name hack"?
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visitor

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 am »
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 10:56:59 am
there is no correct area, because we don't care about how badly you fail at security.

I am sorry you feel that way, but it shows how inexperienced you are,,there is no such thing as 100% security.
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Kaleo

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 12:00:21 pm »
Quote from: visitor on January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 am
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 10:56:59 am
there is no correct area, because we don't care about how badly you fail at security.

I am sorry you feel that way, but it shows how inexperienced you are,,there is no such thing as 100% security.

Yes there is. Put it in a 200m thick lead box and send it into orbit around Pluto.

If you can get it out, I'll be fucking amazed.
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Caveman

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 12:35:01 pm »
Name-Hack?
Are you guys still using an exploitable qvm?
Go and get a recent one.
As for the rest, learn how to administrate or get lost.
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Annihilation

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 01:48:04 pm »
Quote from: visitor on January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 am
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 10:56:59 am
there is no correct area, because we don't care about how badly you fail at security.

I am sorry you feel that way, but it shows how inexperienced you are,,there is no such thing as 100% security.
Archangel is completely inexperienced.

He has lost every epic hacker war tremulous has had.
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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 03:39:58 pm »
Quote from: Kaleo on January 13, 2009, 12:00:21 pm
Yes there is. Put it in a 200m thick lead box and send it into orbit around Pluto.
Lead is pretty pliable.
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Kaine

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Re: Celestial Mapping
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 06:53:16 pm »
Ah yes, but lead is also the only substance that Superman cannot see through, and therefore the box must be made of lead.  We have no other choice.

Also, Pluto no longer exists.  It is a figment of your imagination.  You were perhaps referring to asteroid number 134340?
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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 06:56:04 pm »
4 options:
He "hacked" something other than trem:  You fail at security.
He "hacked" trem:  You fail at security
He found a brand new bug:  You fail at basic common sense and didn't think before posting.
Or, more likely, No idea what "name hacks" are so its possible you're just nuts.
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Archangel

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 06:59:05 pm »
Quote from: visitor on January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 am
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 10:56:59 am
there is no correct area, because we don't care about how badly you fail at security.

I am sorry you feel that way, but it shows how inexperienced you are,,there is no such thing as 100% security.

In Tremulous, maybe 0.1 percent of the population know how to do anything (devs, certain individuals)
And the only exploits possible at the moment are due to ancient QVMs or tremdeds (besides some sort of uber leet 0day). Therefore you apparently fail at upgrading when a patch is released. Or you could just have a password like 123, which wouldn't honestly surprise me. FuN server's rcon was FuN for almost 2 months.

@anni; wtf is a hacker war :[

@david; at least YOU make some sense.
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Kaine

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Re: Humor Lacking
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 07:03:55 pm »
Please try not to ruin my derailment of this thread guys... It was going so well 'til you all got back on topic.
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Archangel

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 07:08:22 pm »
off topic. Do you EVER sleep, Kaine? :<
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Kaine

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 08:04:57 pm »
Occasionally, for a 4 hour chunk.

Occasionally.
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Syntac

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 08:07:03 pm »
What, exactly, is a name hack?
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Caveman

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 08:23:19 pm »
Nickcollision :)
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Kaine

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Re: Hackwarz 2009
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2009, 08:40:10 pm »
!stealadminguid
/name ^6Syntac

^6Syntac has entered the game.

/!rename [SPS]visitor ^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown
[SPSvisitor has been renamed to ^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown by ^6Syntac.

^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown: Um guys, wtf?
[SPS]1337haxx0r: Lol dude, that guy just punked you!
[SPS]tophax: Haha, no way!
^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown: Should I kick him?

/!rename [SPS]1337haxx0r ^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown
[SPS]1337haxx0r has been renamed to ^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown by ^6Syntac.

^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown: Oh, HELL no!
^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown: Rofl, he got you too.
[SPS]tophax: Dude, don't even think about renaming me.  I'ma send you a virus.
[SPS]tophax: srsly.
^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown: Do it Kevin, send him a virus

/!rename [SPS]tophax ^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown
[SPS]tophax has been renamed to ^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown by ^6Syntac.

^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown: FUCK
^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown: You little prick, I know where you live, and I've seen where you sleep
^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown: I'ma fuck your little chiuaua, and then kill your whole family
^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown: I'm not even fucking playing right now

/!mute bastard
^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown has been muted by ^6Syntac.

^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown: Visitor, he muted Kevin...
^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown: can you unmute him please?

^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown has been unmuted by ^1Bimbo^2The^4Clown.

^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown: YOU FUCKING CUNT WHY DID YOU MUTE ME

/!ban bastard 666y "Please don't fuck my chiuaua"
^1Bastardface^2The^4Clown has been banned for 666 years by ^6Syntac for reason: "Please don't fuck my chiuaua"

^1Bitchtits^2The^4Clown: omg

/disconnect
^6Syntac has left the game.
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CreatureofHell

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2009, 08:43:15 pm »
that story should go in the written lore section  ;D ! I lol'd...
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Annihilation

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2009, 10:38:21 pm »
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 06:59:05 pm
Quote from: visitor on January 13, 2009, 11:55:19 am
Quote from: Archangel on January 13, 2009, 10:56:59 am
there is no correct area, because we don't care about how badly you fail at security.

I am sorry you feel that way, but it shows how inexperienced you are,,there is no such thing as 100% security.

In Tremulous, maybe 0.1 percent of the population know how to do anything (devs, certain individuals)
And the only exploits possible at the moment are due to ancient QVMs or tremdeds (besides some sort of uber leet 0day). Therefore you apparently fail at upgrading when a patch is released. Or you could just have a password like 123, which wouldn't honestly surprise me. FuN server's rcon was FuN for almost 2 months.

@anni; wtf is a hacker war :[

@david; at least YOU make some sense.


Noob thats why you lose them

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The sport of the uber leet. You scan for trem servers on your laptop whilst driving around, sitting in mall parking lots, outside the hot chick you have your eye on's house, etc.  Then you hack da server with your super awesome super hacker abilities.  You am be like type 101101011 adn the server crash and you LIKE LOL NOOB! and you win hacker war.

This is obviously how visitor wins all his hacker wars.
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Hendrich

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009, 11:24:34 pm »
I think what happened is that some =AoW= guy went to the server with "name binds", continuously kept renaming himself until the server over-flowed and crashed.
Just like what Caveman said, this shows that the server he went on should've put up a Qvm with a good ol' name change limit, so stuff like this won't happen.

Cheers.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 11:26:52 pm by Hendrich »
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Syntac

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 11:58:10 pm »
Kaine: ...okay, now I get it.
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atomic1fire

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2009, 03:00:03 am »
Are admin rights coded in game? If that where the case, he could have used a modified version to name himself a mod, and then logged in with it, but its probably unlikely, because if they did have a built in staff system in trem, it probably would be server side.
As for the crashing, It could be DDS (distributed denial of service) but who has the time to do something of that scale to a lowly game server.

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Archangel

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2009, 06:40:25 am »
DDoS, not DDS. DDS is Doctor of Dental Surgery. I'm pretty sure sticking dentists to a server WON'T make it crash. But your Goons WILL have shiny teeth.  :dragoon: :dragoon:
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David

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2009, 02:55:57 pm »
Also, a DDoS is distributed, eg a lot of people doing the attacking.
Some idiot with a DSL line wouldn't be able to do anything to a server.
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I'm disappointed that people's past actions have forced me to state what should be obvious.
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Caveman

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Re: Server hacking
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 04:05:02 pm »
hmm... crashing and names...
[edit]please don't talk about how to crash servers using old bugs - kev[/edit]
Anyone can crash that server, one does not even need isdn-speed.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2009, 02:27:09 am by kevlarman »
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