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Maximus

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Just wondering if this would work?
« on: January 17, 2009, 10:40:45 pm »
Hello, I was at best buy today, and I saw the Gaming controllers for computers. I have a very nice mouse but was wondering would a controller work with Trem? If so i will prolly buy one but I dont want to waste money unless it works. Thanks
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 10:48:40 pm »
Right now, Tremulous does not officially support Game controllers, and its unlikely that the devs would go into the trouble of doing so. You could use programs like Xpadder (Google it!) that will make your controller buttons act as keyboard keys. I use a Logitech Controller and I got it for
$20, it works well with Xpadder. 

Also, for the other people here, please don't go "Why use a controller if you have a good mouse?" because saying that and not answering the question, is bullshit.

Also, this question was asked by Fleash Eater awhile back, did you try searching the forums before asking? Well, nvm, I hoped that helped. Cheers. 

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 07:07:18 am »
This question has been asked about 100 times before, please search. And yes it is very possible. Most likely not easy, but possible. And it is "supported," there is some cvar, though I can't remember, but something like x_controller 1 or something like that. Than you just bind the moves and attacks to your controller, which will have names like button18, etc.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 07:25:22 am »
went out and bought a simple logitec controller from walmart 20 bucks. Downloaded Xpadder and it worked great. I played today for a why'll and finally got 90% of the buttons to where i want. Only hard part is trigger sensitivity. It seems to suck very bad. It may just take some getting used to though. I will Update later, I had a lot of people on Trem ask me about this and how well it worked.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 07:43:02 am »
Thanks for reporting back, and having a positive attitude. Please feel free to keep this thread updated, especially about the sensitivity issue. Other people will perhaps use the SEARCH feature, and someday this thread can become a useful repository of information, and not just another abandoned joystick query.

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 05:31:27 pm »
No problem. Well i played a lot last night and today. And let me first say that I am always near the Top 1st-3rd on kills with a razer lachesis mouse. Well I still play a little bit with my trigger sensitivity but I think I found a good spot to put it. Right around 1/2 to 3/4 the way up. And Im getting 2nd-4th in kills right now. I am getting a lot better at it every game. It takes a lot of getting used to. The buttons are same as Halo or any other game system. But the trigger movement is a lot diff. I will conitnue to update this as I get better and play around with it some more. Im about 99% done with my button layout. Just moveing them around now and adding some to get a good layout best for your hands. thanks
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 05:50:58 pm »
This question has been asked about 100 times before, please search. And yes it is very possible. Most likely not easy, but possible. And it is "supported," there is some cvar, though I can't remember, but something like x_controller 1 or something like that. Than you just bind the moves and attacks to your controller, which will have names like button18, etc.
no it's not, the client treats all analog inputs as digital, making it effectively useless for aim.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 06:24:04 pm »
The support may not currently exist, but depending on the precision of input data that you can get from the controller, it's not *that* hard a coding task to add precise joystick control for movement/aiming (although it'll probably still not be as precise as a mouse). I did this with a wii remote once, and the code is set up such that nudging your speed gently along will not generate footsteps etc. I never released because every wiimote library I could find blocked for at least a second while locating the device, which for a graphical and network game like Tremulous looks ugly and can/will drop packets or connections. Way down at the bottom of my todo list is either writing an asynchronous wii remote library or using multithreading to connect devices, but it's super super low priority so I should not be surprised if it never sees the light of day.
A non-wireless device would not have such problems, but I don't have any of those so I'm not developing them :)
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 07:08:20 pm »
I setup my MadCatz Xbox360 controller up with a Tremulous Xpadder config, only thing I couldn't get used to was the lack of mouse speed. I think I'll stick to Gamecube emulation with this baby, thanks. :d

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 02:08:44 am »
This question has been asked about 100 times before, please search. And yes it is very possible. Most likely not easy, but possible. And it is "supported," there is some cvar, though I can't remember, but something like x_controller 1 or something like that. Than you just bind the moves and attacks to your controller, which will have names like button18, etc.
no it's not, the client treats all analog inputs as digital, making it effectively useless for aim.

I've set it up before on a ps3 controller, and while it wasnt as accurate as a mouse it definetly worked.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 07:17:57 am »
you cant use an xbox 360 contorler on a computer without a special adapter.

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 07:25:32 am »
Yes you can. It's just USB. I plugged it in and it worked right away.

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 08:13:13 pm »
i was talking about a wireless xbox  controller i guess i didn't fully read the post  :-X

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 09:41:22 pm »
Madcatz makes some great stuff and they shown themselves as a good company, but that controller looks messed up. Makes me wanna barf.  :P

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2009, 02:38:56 am »
Cactusfrog, there is a 20 dollar thing you can buy that lets you use any wireless 360 input device with a PC. That includes things like the Wireless headsets, wireless controllers, wireless racing wheels, wireless microphones, wireless guitars, wireless vibrators, etc

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 04:32:08 am »
Actually, there is a cable interface for the wireless X360 controllers, but it's entirely useless, nothing supports it yet (at least for me, since I am doing my Windows work on XP64, which is VERY lame)  I ended up just buying the new controller because the wireless one I was borrowing was useless.

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 01:16:00 am »
Are you referring to Play and Charge?

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 04:20:46 am »
Sorry if I sound like a jerk. But Please try using forum search for things before posting. This question has been asked at lest 50 times.

No game pads don't work on tremulous.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2009, 12:15:31 am by Jon Man »

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 06:35:49 am »
jon um you didnt sound like a jerk you just made yourself look like an idiot. Try reading above posts before you reply. For one i am not 10 years old and have time to sit and search, I have a full time job so searching aint for me. second all the other threads on this are pointless as stated above, they are abandoned and no response. and third once again please read above posts. I AM USING A CONTROLLER ON TREMULOUS!!!!!!!! IT WORKS GREAT!!!! so ya dont say it doesnt owrk if you haven't done you research or simply read above. I am using this thread to help others on controllers. I have mine working great on aliens, just aiming on humans is harder do to mouse aiming is easier. I will fix that later this week, My alien layout is great though. top kills all day long againsgt great players. No hard feelings jon but dont post if you cant read.. and i dont know if this is just a new account but you havent been registered that long at all, so how would you know anything about old threads?
« Last Edit: January 21, 2009, 06:37:42 am by Maximus »
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 06:48:55 am »
Jon, my controller works just fine. Sorry, but STFU, read the above and don't make a idiot out of yourself by making a useless mod for it.
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In case someone finds this thread after many years and can't get Trem to work with Xpadder, an alternative could be the shitty Game Pinnacle Profiler, you'll have to pay after using the trail version though. But I got mines free, and it works just great, it even detected my Q3/CS games and made it compatible with my controller. But then again, Xpadder basically does the same job right too. Google it if you must.



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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 06:55:56 am »
Sorry if I sound like a jerk. But Please try using forum search for things before posting. This question has been asked at lest 50 times.

No game pads don't work on tremulous... yet. I'm trying to make a mod to do this.

lol, somebody's emulating us oldfags. i honestly can't remember this question being posted before either

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 07:56:45 am »
I got my LogiTech joystick working via the LogiTech profiler.

So it could probably work if you get a LogiTech gamepad.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2009, 03:31:22 pm »
Sorry if I sound like a jerk. But Please try using forum search for things before posting. This question has been asked at lest 50 times.

No game pads don't work on tremulous... yet. I'm trying to make a mod to do this.

lol, somebody's emulating us oldfags. i honestly can't remember this question being posted before either
it's been there (about twice), but yeah not so much
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2009, 07:03:05 pm »
I have a full time job so searching aint for me.
If you can't be bothered to help your self, why should we bother to help you?
In this case there isn't much to find, but it pisses me off when people expect me to spend my time, because they are too lazy to do it them selves.  (If you have time to play, you have time to search.)
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 03:45:35 am »
I have a full time job so searching aint for me.
If you can't be bothered to help your self, why should we bother to help you?
In this case there isn't much to find, but it pisses me off when people expect me to spend my time, because they are too lazy to do it them selves.  (If you have time to play, you have time to search.)

some of use work for a living. maybe you dont? so until you work to provide for your self and family stfu. you have no right opening your mouth about peoples livelyhood. honestly go f*** yourself prick. i asked a legit question and you have to act like a bada$$ and flame. get a life man. and maybe a job to. you live in the UK so i dont expect much from you besides lay down and die like you fags always do.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 04:15:41 am »
You have wasted more time complaining here than it would take you to use the search feature of this forum, or just Google. And yea, as David said: If you have time to play, you have time to search.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2009, 04:16:15 am »
lol, but if you have the time to play the game, you should have the time to search the forums.

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2009, 04:19:04 am »
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some of use work for a living. maybe you dont? so until you work to provide for your self and family stfu. you have no right opening your mouth about peoples livelyhood. honestly go f*** yourself prick. i asked a legit question and you have to act like a bada$$ and flame. get a life man. and maybe a job to. you live in the UK so i dont expect much from you besides lay down and die like you fags always do.

Holy crap.

Take a chill pill, tone it down a bit, will ya? We understand you have a job and have family to take care of, I have to teach at a school full of kids who think they can code like Bungie and expect to make crazy games because they're the shit (>.>) but that doesn't mean you have to be racist and go negative now.

I don't have anything against you, but David wanted to get his point straight: Help yourself before asking us to help you. If you can go to the PC and boot up the internet just to flame someone, you can take the time to atleast attempt searching and if your personal problems are that big of an issue, don't try to go to the internet at all.

Well, now your problem is solved, right? So lets not turn this into a bitch-fest before it gets out of hand. Have a good day, cheers.  :tyrant:

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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2009, 04:23:36 am »
ive already got it to work, i asked and the first reply was all i needed, i stated that in my second reply. wow can no one here read at all? Honestly if i wanted to search i would have. I got my answer and thats all i wanted. I was useing this thread to help others but you morons get on here and flame and reply with stupid shit that helps no one and gets no where. your on the internet your not "cool" you just make your selves look very immature buy posting stupid shit and repeating whats been said 100 times. If you have nothing to help this thread for future people then GTFO. You people are annoying as hell. Either help or leave its simple.
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Re: Just wondering if this would work?
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2009, 04:27:02 am »
and to you Hendrich, thats all im trying to do is keep this on subject. Just annoying when people dont read whats been posted and just throw there 2 cents into it. This thread was to see if controllers was possible, and now its just to help others on there controllers with my input on it. Nothing againsgt someone saying so search but when its been said 100 times then its just pointless and crams the thread with BS.
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