Author Topic: What about 3D engine ? (Read 208993 times)

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #180 on:** April 12, 2009, 03:50:58 am »

The human is made of plastic, but the shadows are beautiful. Dynamic lighting?

jal · « **Reply #181 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:58:12 am »

Am I the only one who notices those shots show 10 fps each time there are 2 lights on screen?

kevlarman · « **Reply #182 on:** April 12, 2009, 07:04:56 pm »

Quote from: jal on April 12, 2009, 10:58:12 am

Am I the only one who notices those shots show 10 fps each time there are 2 lights on screen?

yes

(also these shots are either darker than stock trem settings that people complain about constantly or rediculously washed out (even the parts that aren't bloomed))

Asvarox · « **Reply #183 on:** April 12, 2009, 08:04:29 pm »

Quote from: jal on April 12, 2009, 10:58:12 am

Am I the only one who notices those shots show 10 fps each time there are 2 lights on screen?

http://xserverx.com/forum/download/file.php?id=544
But even if we have tremor in xreal, there's no parralax or anything, those doens't show full xreal power.

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The human is made of plastic, but the shadows are beautiful. Dynamic lighting?

Have you seen a human in current trem engine? They are made from closer unknown material. I prefer XReal's one

spectator · « **Reply #184 on:** April 12, 2009, 08:26:30 pm »

Quote from: jal on April 12, 2009, 10:58:12 am

Am I the only one who notices those shots show 10 fps each time there are 2 lights on screen?

Sex modded the qvm so lucis have speed 0, those 2 lights u see are really alot of lucis in the same place.

It look darker cuz HDR settings, i desactivate it and it looks fine just like trem talking about gamma.

Ivancool · « **Reply #185 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:39:27 pm »

In order to attract more players we need "HOLLYWOOD STYLE" elements like:

and more thing that allow even a very very bad player to get at least 3 frags per game.

I hate Hollywood style from moderns games...

mooseberry · « **Reply #186 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:58:32 pm »

Asvarox · « **Reply #187 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:07:16 pm »

Quote from: mooseberry on April 13, 2009, 08:58:32 pm

Ivancool · « **Reply #188 on:** April 13, 2009, 10:18:56 pm »

I mean, people play videogames because are easy and face paced not for their per pixel lighting, ray tracing and others superb 3d effects. The difficulty of tremulous is one of the main reasons to step away "gamers" from playing.

Bissig · « **Reply #189 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:35:37 am »

Quote from: mooseberry on April 13, 2009, 08:58:32 pm

Sarkasm and Irony - a heavy treat.

mooseberry · « **Reply #190 on:** April 14, 2009, 04:58:20 am »

Quote from: Bissig on April 14, 2009, 12:35:37 am

Quote from: mooseberry on April 13, 2009, 08:58:32 pm

Sarkasm and Irony - a heavy treat.

Demolution · « **Reply #191 on:** April 14, 2009, 08:07:55 am »

Personally I found Trem's steep learning curve quite the treat.

rotacak · « **Reply #192 on:** April 14, 2009, 10:25:59 am »

That xreal trem is nice. Basic trem is only dark but xreal is creepy. I want to try it.

For all who don't want better graphic because <silly reasons here> : go to play ADOM:

It's a game without graphic and without sounds. And it's really good game.

David · « **Reply #193 on:** April 14, 2009, 01:36:23 pm »

That looks awful like graphics to me...
Go play Mud.

amz181 · « **Reply #194 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:06:38 pm »

ASCII = INSTANT WIN

gimhael · « **Reply #195 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:16:38 pm »

Well, there is an ASCII version of Quake II, so an ASCII Trem should be possible....

David · « **Reply #196 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:22:28 pm »

SDL already supports it, however SDL_VIDEODRIVER=aalib causes trem to crash with "GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem" for me

gimhael · « **Reply #197 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:56:46 pm »

Have you set r_allowSoftwareGL to 1 ?

Asvarox · « **Reply #198 on:** April 14, 2009, 05:50:16 pm »

http://easycaptures.com/6271478813
html file has 2,5 MB

Winnie the Pooh · « **Reply #199 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:14:57 pm »

Awesomez! So exactly how do you do it?

/r_allowSoftwareGL 1
/SDL_VIDEODRIVER=aalib

?

David · « **Reply #200 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:39:51 pm »

SDL_VIDEODRIVER is an envaroment variable, so you have to set it first. EG something like SDL_VIDEODRIVER="aalib" ./tremulous.x86

Winnie the Pooh · « **Reply #201 on:** April 14, 2009, 10:46:39 pm »

Well, I switched back to windows if that was about linux. I just want to know what to typed in and where to type it..

Asvarox · « **Reply #202 on:** April 15, 2009, 11:38:09 am »

w8w8w8w8 ioq3 is going to be text game too:
http://ioquake3.org/2009/04/01/vi-oquake3/#more-159

Plague Bringer · « **Reply #203 on:** April 15, 2009, 12:23:23 pm »

Another reason why we might want a new engine? More gimmick/gameplay options. The ability to cut power to a door, or, as a human, to fuse wires and power it, or as an alien, to spit juice (or something) to create an electrical connection. Lights that can be powered? Better shadows on players so that you can actually hide in the dark (give the helmet the ability to outline alien forms)? A flashlight would be needed, and the only reason we don't have one is because the engine won't like it, and it's not needed on the current engine.

Man of Tacos · « **Reply #204 on:** May 28, 2009, 11:33:59 pm »

Would you be able to put HDR (High Dynamic Range) in the the game using that engine?

If you can put HDR in that would be worth it to me.

bacon665 · « **Reply #205 on:** May 28, 2009, 11:50:23 pm »

so has anyone gotten OpenGL to do ascii output of trem? id love to see a picture.
i would love to make a steampunk tremulous arcade thing with four crt moniters and wire up a custom keypad.

Asche · « **Reply #206 on:** July 14, 2009, 01:39:18 am »

Hello,

After several months of work and testing, we (Tremap) have several things come to you to show the beauty of the graphics engine and Xreal that possibility.

Parallax mapping :

Shadows possibilities :

Shadows in Video :

http://94.23.18.188/asche/xreal/xt_lib001.MP4

Video on the atmosphere of a map of tremulous completely in the dark (this video is made to show that a flashlight in tremulous) :

http://94.23.18.188/asche/xreal/xatf.avi.MP4

You can see the look "wet" disappeared except for the texture where is wanted.

The parallax mapping, though major consumer of resources makes the superb relief, and of course, the user can at will turn off this feature to avoid playing with 30 fps.

The engine Xreal should also include a physics engine to run well and the hitbox for the interaction between objects.

It also allows scripting of actions through the lua added to more games that can compete with commercial games.

Really, it would be good for Tremulous have a new rendering engine.

I want to thank Amanieu who started the port engine on Tremfusion, I hope that soon we will show you an overviews of the work done in mapping and the level model with bump and specular mapping on a tremulous gave nine .

{7}wrath · « **Reply #207 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:36:32 am »

Xreal is so full of win, but I have to ask; whats the catch?

MitSugna · « **Reply #208 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:10:41 am »

In my opinion, visibility is important for a multiplayer game. This is just dark. It would be perfect for single player.

Archangel · « **Reply #209 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:13:31 am »

the darkness is overused. if there were individual rooms with darkness, or maybe a section of hallway with no lighting, things would be a lot nicer.

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