Download prompt committed

[Lakitu7]

Today the future of mapping and modding in Tremulous is finally secure. The above shot shows what new players with cl_allowDownload=0 will see in Trem 1.2 when they attempt to connect to a server requiring a download. As such, servers running new maps and mods will have the potential to actually be populated, instead of being relegated to obscurity because most players can't figure out what how to obtain them.

Thank you to Risujin and Kevlarman, who are entirely responsible for this.

[mooseberry]

Big +1s.

Hopefully now, some good custom maps will really see the light of day.

[{7}wrath]

 
I love this so much.

[Demolution]

Now if we could improve the menus, it would be perfect.

[CreatureofHell]

Wow! That should improve some parts of trem drastically.

[amz181]

Now if we could improve the menus, it would be perfect.

this

[danmal]

Looks awesome however I think that having two options for the player is going to be extremely confusing. As a new player I won't know which option is faster. In fact when is it ever useful to download from the server instead of the website?

I'd suggest removing "download from server" unless it's there for a good reason.

[FreaK]

nice, hopefully now people will actually play custom maps.

[Thorn]

hey isn't that what tremfusion done
2 years ago

[kevlarman]

hey isn't that what tremfusion done
2 years ago

tremfusion didn't exist 2 years ago, and this patch predates tremfusion by quite a bit.

[your face]

hey isn't that what tremfusion done
2 years ago

^

(also note the sarcasm of 2 years ago, probably only like 6 months to a year)

[Lakitu7]

Looks awesome however I think that having two options for the player is going to be extremely confusing. As a new player I won't know which option is faster. In fact when is it ever useful to download from the server instead of the website?

I'd suggest removing "download from server" unless it's there for a good reason.

Probably most servers will run sv_allowDownload 5, so UDP download ("from server") won't be an option.

[Thorn]

hey isn't that what tremfusion done
2 years ago

tremfusion didn't exist 2 years ago, and this patch predates tremfusion by quite a bit.

oh so now you're saying as a dev you do actually do the code you're just too lazy to put it to good use?

[Lakitu7]

The patch quickly became out of date by some refactors of the menu code and that part had to then be mostly redone to match.

[David]

I think it should say about downloading from http being faster on there.  (Or just not give a choice, and only use udp if http fails.)
But otherwise awesome

[Bissig]

Maybe in paranthesis:

http download (fast)
server download (slow)

[Winnie the Pooh]

Maybe in paranthesis:

http download (fast)
server download (slow)

If I were a n00b, why would I ever click the slow option? That kinda clinches it right there.

The menu needs great improvement. Right now it looks kinda cheap.

[David]

OK, everyone says it needs to be better.
HOW.  "It looks cheap" is hardly useful criticism.
Maybe one of the HUD people who've made menu-system overhauls should get in touch with the devs to give the entire out-of-game UI a face lift.

[Archangel]

If I were a n00b, why would I ever click the slow option?

i've seen noobs that think slow is better.

[Repatition]

If I were a n00b, why would I ever click the slow option?

i've seen noobs that think slow is better.

yes you thats the noob you saw yourself!

[Archangel]

  i am confused sir

[danmal]

Probably most servers will run sv_allowDownload 5, so UDP download ("from server") won't be an option.

If the servers are running sv_allowdownload 5 then will the prompt change so that only "Download from website" is available (aka "download from server doesn't appear") and the same when only "server download" is available?

[Lakitu7]

yes

[benmachine]

UDP is useful if the webhost you're using as a mirror temporarily fails and starts 404ing people, or worse, giving the wrong version out. The version you get directly from the server is pretty much guaranteed to be the right one.
So I an in favour of keeping the option there, but also in favour of emphasising that cURL is crazy fast by comparison.

[Odin]

I think it should say about downloading from http being faster on there.  (Or just not give a choice, and only use udp if http fails.)
But otherwise awesome

This is a great idea, but instead of only having one option, have three. One for UDP, one for HTTP, and a 'choose what's best for me'(with those words) option that does what you describe.

[MitSugna]

This is a good addition.
However, as the rest of the development features, it needs to be released in an official release to become effective.
That is also true for the development games as they involve a little portion of the Tremulous community which includes players ranging from novice to pro.
Beginners can't join the games because they don't have a decent client with http downloads(and those prompts). In return, development games are less effective.
IMO, It would be better if the developers updated the clients in the downloads section. It doesn't need to contain any major changes.

cURL is crazy fast by comparison.

Now, that is a little bit confusing. But I guess you mean the http downloads(and that is if the server allows fast downloads).
This fact is statistically correct.

[Undeference]

"Website" should probably be changed since it is not necessarily correct.

[Asvarox]

Cool. Now please go update downloads with client version supporting it, or at least add a link to just the binary.

[Superpie]

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[David]

Installer from where?
There's a *lot* more to it than just the link.