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kill3r

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Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« on: August 18, 2009, 05:29:10 pm »
Hello,
I have noticed that when on windows, i would hardly ever lag whenever i entered a Human/Alien base (at most 2-4 less FPS from 30-40FPS). On the other hand, with Ubuntu Linux (with the exact same graphic settings as windows), it would drop from 30-40FPS to 3-5FPS. I know for sure that i have the drivers installed. When i run tremulous i never run any other program BUT tremulous.x86. What's wrong? Thanks!
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Bissig

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 08:29:56 pm »
There are usually different kind of drivers for graphics cards on linux, tell us which you use.

Another reason might be that you have tweaked your settings on windows and f.e. reduced the geometry setting from high or middle to middle or low.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 09:26:59 pm »
I use the default one automatically put into the OS (Ubuntu linux). Is there a better  one? i use the driver named: xserver-xorg-video-intel. Any ideas? (BTW, i am completely sure that the settings are the same :-])
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 10:26:56 pm »
the linux intel drivers are more or less flaming pieces of dog doo shoved into your kernel and Xorg. so, yeah. expect bad performance.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 10:59:03 pm »
Lol Archangel. Then what should i do?
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 11:25:34 pm »
acquire yourself a cheap nvidia card, i.e a 5800 or similar. you can get them for like $5-10 online, new, or used at a local computer store.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 11:55:19 pm »
What a great idea! Why havent i not thought of that! OH lol i forgot i had a laptop  ;D. Anyways, where are some better drivers?
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 12:37:49 am »
Quote from: kill3r on August 18, 2009, 11:55:19 pm
What a great idea! Why havent i not thought of that! OH lol i forgot i had a laptop  ;D. Anyways, where are some better drivers?

Go to intel.com and find appropriate drivers for your integrated graphics chipset.
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 02:29:58 am »
he's using linux, and the linux intel drivers, as i said, are equivalent to a block of frozen urine inside of your laptop.
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 07:06:29 am »
aside from the fact that intel graphics fail in general. ubuntu was nice enough to enable compiz by default, and it screws with your fps in anything 3d.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 02:59:42 am »
Err...My computer only has 16MB of vram..And i can't possibly run compiz. I even searched for the process, and could'nt find anyything related to compiz.
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 10:02:37 am »
your internal video probably uses system ram as well as its own VRAM. most laptops do.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 03:54:28 pm »
Ya but my laptop sucks. Its a IBM T23 (2001). Atleast it gets on average 30-40fps, but not on linux; only windows.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 08:18:34 pm »
Instead of telling me how 'shitty' my driver , tell me how i can fix this
thanks
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Bissig

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 08:36:31 pm »
You can't, reason: the driver is shitty.

Things you can do:

1. Replace the hardware
2. Lower settings in Tremulous that need many calculations
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2009, 07:49:47 am »
Quote from: kevlarman on August 19, 2009, 07:06:29 am
aside from the fact that intel graphics fail in general. ubuntu was nice enough to enable compiz by default, and it screws with your fps in anything 3d.
Compiz by default should skip fullscreen windows now so this probably wouldn't be a problem anymore.
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kill3r

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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2009, 03:12:37 am »
So then what should i do?? Are there better Linux drivers for my card (S3 Supersavage IXC)?
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2009, 03:43:35 am »
You might get better performance going back to Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10. See Intel Linux Graphics Performance Q4'08 (page 6) and the earlier Intel X.org, Mesa Performance In Ubuntu (page 4).
Things look somewhat better in Ubuntu 9.10—Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 4 Benchmarks—but still not what it was a year ago and 9.10 won't be released until next month. You could get a laptop with something usable.

Next month depending on where you live.
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Re: Horrible lag when entering human/Aliens base with linux, not windows
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 04:47:15 am »
Thank you guys for helping me! All i had to do (like what undeference told me to do' was downgrade from 9.04-->8.10. It works like a 'babe' now. Thanks alot!
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