Grudge Match: The Sea Men Syndicate vs. Xenocide [Finished: {&} Wins 2-0]

[Affairs]

stop the fucking verbal fighting and do a scrim

[Itomangina]

LOL

[_Equilibrium_]

@ Ozzi: <3 for thinking I'm nice.

@ Apple: I know you've had a lot of altercations with >< members, but saying that only 2 or 3 of us are nice is pretty ignorant. One of the reasons I agreed to help start up this clan back in January was because I wanted to be in a clan that combined skill with a clean reputations and good attitudes (similar to NT). When I played, it was just that, and as far as I saw. The only flames/arguments that this clan has had is with you guys.

I can't say what is justified or what is not since I am so out of the loop, but the people in this clan wouldn't start stupid shit for no reason, or they wouldn't be in this clan. You can't pin this all on us, and I'm sure we can't pin this all on you either. Posting as much shit as you can find that makes us look bad is just screaming for flames. I don't know who started the grudge, but you sure as hell made it worse by tenfold. What started out as a rivalry which could have been solved by a quick scrim turned to an enormous flamewar in which I believe most of my clan just tried to ignore and avoid you as much as possible because they just didn't want to deal with your shit.

After the scrim (you guys won, congrats), I was hoping this crap would go away. Apparently not. I don't understand why all this frickin drama is tied in to a game. I thought this was supposed to be fun. Hopefully when I start playing again, it will be. Hell, maybe 1.2 will even be out by then.


edit: Fuck, now it looks like I am flaming. Let's just try to put this behind us and not immediately consider each other assholes from what we see in short encounters on the internet. I really think everyone in each of these clans are good people. Sometimes, you can't really learn to like someone unless you spend time with them in real life. The internet just brings out the worst in people, as there are no real consequences for what we say.

[Dragula]

What started out as a rivalry which could have been solved by a quick scrim

That is what we said, but as everyone knows, they refused to scrim.

turned to an enormous flamewar in which I believe most of my clan just tried to ignore and avoid you as much as possible because they just didn't want to deal with your shit.

That's exactly what went wrong. You can't ignore us. They refused to scrim us, so we decided to have fun with you >< guys one way or another until we got our scrim. It worked, but unfortunately those few ><s decided to choose the more degrading solution rather than just getting the scrim over with.

[KamikOzzy]

You pretend to be old buddies whenever you want something. You pretend to not know me when we don't see eye to eye. Yarou does this occasionally. You're a douchebag. Suck my dick.

[_Equilibrium_]

>.>

[Dragula]

edit: Fuck, now it looks like I am flaming. Let's just try to put this behind us and not not immediately consider each other assholes from what we see in short encounters on the internet. I really think everyone in each of these clans are good people. Sometimes, you can't really learn to like someone unless you spend time with them in real life. The internet just brings out the worst in people, as there are no real consequences for what we say.

I don't think any of us really care about what everyone else is like in real life, since it's the good times on the internet when you're bored that count. Atleast for me anyway. The internet definitely brings out the worst in people, and it takes time to realize the intent of people's attitudes on the internet. I agree, that's probably why there is so much h8 and why I'm seeing some "& guys r meen!" and ">< guys r meen!" posts in this thread, because you have to get to know people better to understand their personality. In &'s case, it is usually seems to be understanding the creud humour and parody underneath the asshattery you may see.

[AppleJuice]

Most of what I have said after the scrim has been in response to people trying to flame me. And most of it has been towards people who aren't even involved with either clan who seem to just want a little attention (read: Ozzy).

I'll agree though, it's getting a bit repetitive now. It's best to just put it behind us for now, until there's something even funnier to flame about.

P.S. I don't remember pretending to be anything with you, Ozzy - old buddies, strangers, whatever. I'm real - sometimes I'm nice, and sometimes I'm "snappy." As of right now, I don't really know you, and I don't know why you think otherwise. This topic isn't about you, anyway - stop trying to make it as such. I don't even know why you're getting so butthurt with my responses, since you started trolling me this time.

[Dracone]

"evos or kick" - KellyTaylor.

We could learn a lot from this person.

[Archangel]

pwd[~] user[solar]%  grep killing .trem/base/kos-mos.cfg
bind 9 "say_team  "^5I^7nstead of asking for \$__vstr_currency\, please try ^5killing^7 something^5.""

[elmo*USA]

if we all listened to ryan none of this would happen!


good thread tho.

[Nux]

Damn it! I thought we had made progress! We agreed that The Sea Men Syndicate has bad apples (whoops, no pun intended) and that (><) might have dicks that I'm unaware of.

Sadly what you offered as a history, AppleJuice, could be summed up as 'We got into a flamewar that they started' which of course just started more flaming.

So to be clear, I'm not interested in who started what. I'm asking who are the dicks today? FreaK clearly fed the flames here so that was his bad, but I don't think he's a dick any more than you are AppleJuice. You're both just angry at eachother and other members who aren't here.

The only real dickery I've seen so far has been from Dustin and posibly Yarou. I'm afraid banning someone because your mate is actually angry at them is a bad joke. This is the only real dickery I have to base my opinions off and that's my only gripe with the (&) clan.

[Jedarus]

"evos or kick" - KellyTaylor.

We could learn a lot from this person.

"/callvote mute/kick KellyTaylor" straight away whenever I see him/her entering the game.

[AppleJuice]

Damn it! I thought we had made progress! We agreed that The Sea Men Syndicate has bad apples (whoops, no pun intended) and that (><) might have dicks that I'm unaware of.

Sadly what you offered as a history, AppleJuice, could be summed up as 'We got into a flamewar that they started' which of course just started more flaming.

So to be clear, I'm not interested in who started what. I'm asking who are the dicks today? FreaK clearly fed the flames here so that was his bad, but I don't think he's a dick any more than you are AppleJuice. You're both just angry at eachother and other members who aren't here.

The only real dickery I've seen so far has been from Dustin and posibly Yarou. I'm afraid banning someone because your mate is actually angry at them is a bad joke. This is the only real dickery I have to base my opinions off and that's my only gripe with the (&) clan.

You were banned for a few minutes, at most. If you want to make it a bigger deal than that, then that's your decision. Personally, I think you're taking a joke ban far too seriously.

It is also not my responsibility to tell you who in your clan are dicks. We're obviously not the only clan that has a problem with (><), so there are plenty of anecdotes to be found. I'm not going to make a long post detailing everything I've heard. If you don't want to take the initiative to find out, either, then that's your choice. If you don't see it with your own eyes, then it's just my word over theirs, which is most likely worthless to you. Ask around, instead (in-game, of course, because people seem to be very reluctant to post here)!

Also, for the last time, I'm not angry at all at FreaK or anyone else in (><). I've said quite a few times already that I've enjoyed the past few weeks! We all laughed a lot on mumble over this entire situation.

I also don't think responding to dicks in a dick-like way makes me a dick, but if that falls under your definition for dick, then according to you, I am a dick. So be it. It's not that bad, in my opinion, anyway.

If you have a problem with Dustin and *maybe* Yarou, that's fine, but those are two players, not the entire {&} clan. You don't seem to have a gripe with the clan itself.

[Nux]

You've made a great effort to explain things through clearly. Of course your word is worth something. This thread wouldn't still be going if you weren't seeing something wrong as much as I am and if I didn't think it worth talking to you about it.

So I'll reiterate. This ban was just an example. Dustin has had something against me for far longer (he's made no indication that he's just joking) and Yarou put himself in this by making a bad joke. I'll take his word for it so I don't have any grievance with him. You can see how it looked from my perspective right?

So what we're left with is just one clan member who managed to convince me that his entire clan were dicks. Why should just one clan member be enough? Because you picked him and you could drop him. Is it any wonder that it would give you a bad reputation for keeping him?

Note: This is completely from my view. From each one of your views there's probably some other personal reason for all this. You should know this but I feel like reminding you.

EDIT: Actually I'm feeling a lot better now I know (&) does have good members with good attitudes. I'd be happy to join in any scrims you'd like to do :]

[Kaine]

Cocks, gentlemen.  The word is "cocks," not dicks.

[VonDutch]

Such childish.

[Dracone]

Such childish.

evos or kick

[mooseberry]

Guys I made a new clan called bowtie. {>&<}

[FreaK]

Guys I made a new clan called bowtie. {>&<}

lol that made me laugh

[StevenM]

OMG trem tshirts!

[amz181]

Cocks, gentlemen.  The word is "cocks," not dicks.

[Dragula]

So what we're left with is just one clan member who managed to convince me that his entire clan were dicks. Why should just one clan member be enough? Because you picked him and you could drop him. Is it any wonder that it would give you a bad reputation for keeping him?

Oh no, Dustin doesn't like you? We'll be sure to drop him from the clan immediately so our internet reputation is to your approval.

PS: This clan doesn't have a j-cool to recruit everyone and anyone with a decent skill level, so we are forced to recruit our friends. Sry 4 inconvenience

[IabzO.o]

So ya thought ya might like to go to the show. To feel the warm thrill of confusion, that space cadet glow. I got me some bad news for you, Sunshine. Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel, and he sent us along as a surrugate band. We're gonna find out where you fans really stand.

Are there any queers in the theatre tonight?
[Points at Archangel and Kaine]

Get 'em up against the wall. -- 'Gainst the wall!

And that one in the spot light, he doesn't look right to me.
[Points at AppleJuice]

Get him up against the wall. -- 'Gainst the wall!

And that one looks Jewish,
[Points at Dracone]

and that one's a coon.
[Points at Gear]

Who let all this Riff Raff into the room?

There's one smoking a joint,
[Points at Dragula]

and another with spots!
[Points at Nux]

If I had my way, I'd have all of ya shot.

[Yarou]

I would just like to point out that I have never been your "buddy" Ozzy.
At one point you were tolerable (see: before he became a faggot), but I realize that ultimately you are a hick piece of shit.

Enjoy counting cows for a living,

- Yarou

[Cipher]

Really? Banning me from your sever Ozzy? Like I give a shit. Your server sucks anyways. 32 slots 22 max in-game, cool stuff man. Again this just proves my point.

[KamikOzzy]

Did I ban you cipher? Sounds like a good idea. I don't really want someone so unnecessarily hostile towards me playing around me.

Anyway, Yarou, exactly. You have never been my friend. You *pretend* to be my friend quite often. You use phrases repetitively, such as "you've known me a pretty long time, more than anyone else that still plays" and shit like that. Lul @ attacks about my social background. I'll count cows while you worship them, fatty. <3

[Helix.]

End this fucking bull shit and make up already.

[Blade]

Ok, I'm seeing a lot of dick measuring in this thread and I feel I need to step in between it before something happens that Jack Black, Heath Ledger, and Jake Gyllenhaal would regret.

First of all, AppleJuice, you need to stop pretending you're me. When I was at the top, I was untouchably dominant, and I had the charisma to back up my totally unprecedented skills. Fuck, not only could no player stop me, no clan could stop me (I remember 4v1ing Zilla and they quit before the second round ended because I was spawn camping them or something). BUT, the days of people giving a shit about anyone's skills in this game are long over now; however, you seem to be a little bit too hung up on how awesome your b& homo orgy is. This is a terrific mistake, so I'm going to set you straight because it's time to face full life consequences. Nobody cares how big your DICK is because you don't have the BALLS to film yourself scoring big. Nobody will ever care (after all, nobody will ever know anyways, you small, pathetic piece of shit).

Second of all, KamikOzzy you need to calm the fuck down and suck someone's dick before you go totally apeshit in your private rape room (AA server) if you haven't already. You've always pretty much been the biggest sore in Tremulous' ass, the biggest tumor in its cranium, the biggest parasite in its shit-filled anus. You've hurt this game like nobody else has, even the fucking developers. You stall Tremulous 1.2 development because of all your shitty balance complaints (which by the way, who the fuck cares? you can't even beat me 1v1 with a Stage 2 headstart). You ruin the clan scene by stealing everyone's players and then going inactive and not scrimming. You fucking ban players who are Polish or black... but you fill your server name with boxes so they go straight to it? what the fuck are you trying to prove? Go get laid or something, you useless fuck.

Thirdly: Nobody gives a rat's fuck in Sasha Grey's tail about any of these unprofessional clans. It's like some kind of fucking playground territory fight in elementary school. Who gets banned from whose servers, who beats whom in devmap, who won't scrim whom... WHO GIVES WHOSE SHIT? It's fucking ridiculous. What the FUCK are you morons thinking? What a shitload of fuck.

[KamikOzzy]

Blade has the right ideas all around. I'm going to go suck a dick before I go apeshit.