If we have featured servers.
We should compromise something out so that there is 3-5 featured servers.
1. Dev Server
2-4. Mostly default vanilla setting servers, with active admins, servers to be voted on by community/servers that the owners donated to tremulous.
5. Mod/Map Highlight of the week
This way, it's not just MG.
This is exactly what is happening.
MG has nothing to do with this, other than donating a server. The devs have full control, MG has none.
Maybe people should start reading what the devs say? And not believe the conspiracy theories?
I can only conclude that you are either a bunch of complete retards or deliberately trolling.
Nowhere have they posted how they are going to assign those servers, and even Paradox asked the simple question of will that mean just "special" servers will get pinned or will he have a chance to have his 1.2 server pinned, which if I'm not wrong no one bothered to answer.
The reason is, we are not listening to the devs, we are listening to MG's. Tuple and you David, the two most active posters in here, are both not devs, and both are MG members. Yet you're apparently doing all the defending and explaining of whats going on, or just? uhm.. calling us all paranoid people? You guys jumped the line first telling us we were afraid of MG "taking over the world" and other bullshit like that, that we clearly were not intending. It is obvious though, that as we see it, as we get no real info on the matter, that MG Dev's are going to pin MG servers and tell the rest of us to fuck off. Nowhere has anyone mentioned community decisions on what servers are pinned, the only thing mentioned was possibly donations allowing pinned slots to pay for voice acting ect.
The Tremulous Development Team will run a couple of official servers, plus we will have 1-2 other featured servers that will be by default sorted to the top of the server browser for the beta.
What are we supose to assume that means? I mean, we don't even get the basis of an incite of what the 1-2 "other" servers will be, and we are only to assume that MG will be picking what those 1-2 servers will be not that we'll have any say in the matter. I mean, when's the last time any reasonable activity was spent in game from Devs or MG or just Devs on the forum in general. They may be active on private boards for all we know, but we don't. We don't get any really input or effort on forums from non-MG Devs(just an occasional pop in to tell us we're whiny or something else unrelated to tremulous developement) and we don't get any interaction from MG-Dev's or other MG members either for that point in game. You guys occasional pop by on your/nof's mod, but you're never out actually playing on our servers so how could you possibly know which ones are good or bad?
We're only making this about MG, because this IS about MG. Instead of relaying to us any valid points, you just insult us and tell us we're being paranoid? What else are we supose to do. All we can see happening is "official dev server" - donated, ran, and pinned by MG. 1-2 pinned servers(X Server donates money + PureTremulous because MG has all individually done so much for tremulous so they deserve recognition.) and then servers we see as valuable such as AA or a server ran by someone like paradox left in the dust even though to the actual playerbase those are the servers we'd like to see at the top.
Obviously, in the end, the devs do what they want, and whining and bitching will only get us so far, but does that mean we shouldn't whine? We shouldn't want an explination to exactly what the plan are with these slots, how many there for sure should be, and who will get to take advantage of these pinned slots? We should just be like its okay, we'll just let whatever happens happen no matter how we see it effecting how we and new players will be impelled to play the game? A lot of us have issues with what you call "1.2" as well. We don't see Timbo or Stanum coming in and saying "MG Dev server(aka nof's mod) is 1.2" We only see Nosferatu and MG telling us its 1.2 and we don't agree, nor do we accept that as what 1.2 should be. We just see it as another mod or branch off as you see Tremfusion. So of course we're worried, because the only input we get from is MG, thats why we assume MG is calling the shots.... because they are....
Just to implify my point here. If you replaced MG with Tremfusion devteam, and "1.2" with "Tremfusion" and it was the identical situation. Most of us would still be just as pissed. We don't see how its fair for one group of people, from any stand point, have a right to tell us that their mod is 1.2 and the future of trem and that they will pin some servers, with no incite to whether or not we'll get any input on how those pinned servers will be decided.
You guys are just really good at not being active in game, not interacting with the players, and then making very vital game development decisions wihtout concuring to us any information or giving us any chance to input on it. I mean, sure we can go into the "1.2" thread and bitch all we want about the lack of balance and the changes we see wrong, but in the end its just Nosferatu's mod and we don't have the people(mostly timbo) who originally made tremulous telling us otherwise.
I think someone from MG even mentioned sometime that even though it was the "dev server" in the end Timbo could end up just scratching everything put into it and starting from scratch. That gave some of us hope, except for now, that didn't happen, we didn't even see input from Timbo. If he did tell you guys anything it was from behind the scene. Yet even though without us knowing his input, here is a near release of what we're told is 1.2.
:/
