This clan shit is just why I don't join them. They cause major problems. In thisother game I played before Trem I joined a clan. Became 5th in charge within a week. And no not because of skill but because the clan was falling apart and they need somebody for disciplinary action. Well that was my job. Next thing I know about 2 weeks later the clan is in pieces because people were being stupid, not listening to me or heeding my warnings. About a day after the downfall I get chunked into 1st position. I quit after the leader came back saying that clan was merging. That's why I don't join clans anymore. Sure they offer more protection the real protection can only come from yourself. I wouldn't mind helping a clan with a fight at all, or even a war but no joining because of the shit.