Author Topic: banned 2 days for language?  (Read 5552 times)

sneaky

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banned 2 days for language?
« on: July 04, 2010, 08:22:43 pm »
hi this is sneaky.  i was just banned from the official European Server by Cadynum.ddos for 2 days, Reason: language
here is the truncated condump, i've only made some highlights, and snipped out the irrelevant system data.  also here is the original condump http://pastebin.com/Ykf4rGiR


<SNIP>

[H] Bulgar: mam za duze lagi by grac
AGIA was clawed by es.ddos's Marauder
KingMuttley was bitten by GT-Sneaky[g]
[A] Entroacceptor.ddos: speak english
-sg.Darkclaw- got too close to the reactor
GT-Sneaky[g] got too close to the reactor
C.dc got too close to the reactor
Barricade built by Nuwanda, replacing Egg
Cucarachakiller was clawed by Cadynum.ddos's Marauder
[A] GT-Sneaky[g]: why?
[H] Bulgar: inny serw
[H] AGIA: NEVER MOVE RC WHEN UNDER ATTACK *facepalm*
xoravsA-TG was zapped by the.shiznikx's Marauder
Aliens win
[A] Cadynum.ddos: gg
[A] -sg.Darkclaw-: gg
[H] AGIA: gg
[H] K56: yay, we speak pol only with each other
[A] the.shiznikx: GLORIOUS GAME
[A] GT-Sneaky[g]: english is the only language on earth?
[wingl]wing[wingr] disconnected
[H] Alan Turing: HamStar team wins again?
[A] -sg.Darkclaw-: da
[A] the.shiznikx: obviously it is
[A] GT-Sneaky[g]: i didn't know that
[H] K56: aliens are nothing
[H] xoravsA-TG: You Too !
[A] Entroacceptor.ddos: you may speak any language you like in private
messages

[A] es.ddos: k56 plz use private emsssages then
[H] K56: comparing to lags that attack from everywhere

<SNIP (NEW GAME)>

[Spec] Entroacceptor.ddos: but public chat is for everyone to understand
Bulgar connected
Grunt joined the humans
[Spec] -sg.Darkclaw-: english is the official trade language
xoravsA-TG entered the game
xoravsA-TG joined the aliens
Vidalone (g-yeah) entered the game
[Spec] K56: sorry, how to use privates then?
Vidalone (g-yeah) joined the humans
-sg.Darkclaw- joined the aliens
es.ddos was machinegunned by tamtam princess
[Spec] the.shiznikx: K56, he basically told you to stay in the freaking back of
the bus

Bulgar entered the game
AGIA was bitten by xoravsA-TG
Bulgar joined the humans
AGIA disconnected
[A] HamStar@D:  /m playername text
[Spec] zappbrannigan: in console: \m [name] [message]
Alan Turing entered the game
Alan Turing joined the humans
[Spec] K56: ok, thanks
Nuwanda joined the humans
Cadynum.ddos was machinegunned by tamtam princess
[H] Bulgar: K ... we change server ?
[Spec] GT-Sneaky[g]: that is an official server rule, if so, where is it posted?
Cadynum.ddos was machinegunned by tamtam princess
GT-Jim|Beam connected
Alan Turing was bitten by C.dc
Vidalone (g-yeah) was bitten by -sg.Darkclaw-
xoravsA-TG was machinegunned by Alan Turing
[Spec] K56: didnt know earlier
[Spec] the.shiznikx: very sneaky question
GT-Jim|Beam entered the game
the.shiznikx joined the aliens
-sg.Darkclaw- was machinegunned by Alan Turing
Grunt was bitten by es.ddos
|Undertaker entered the game
-sg.Darkclaw- was machinegunned by tamtam princess
GT-Jim|Beam joined the humans
[A] xoravsA-TG: probably on the forums
-sg.Darkclaw- was machinegunned by tamtam princess
Vidalone (g-yeah) was bitten by xoravsA-TG
tamtam princess was bitten by es.ddos
[Spec] GT-Sneaky[g]: no, it's not a rule.  only the preference of the ignorant
Vidalone (g-yeah) disconnected
xoravsA-TG was gunned down by a turret
C.dc was machinegunned by Grunt
[A] es.ddos: i dont know ANY offical rules
[A] es.ddos: but that is just politeness
[Spec] Entroacceptor.ddos: well, all admins agree on them, so that makes it
official

-sg.Darkclaw- was gunned down by a turret
Dip joined the humans
C.dc was machinegunned by Nuwanda
[Spec] GT-Sneaky[g]: no, not all admins would agree
tamtam princess was bitten by -sg.Darkclaw-
[A] xoravsA-TG: it's also in common sense that nie kazdy lubi czytac czyjes
wypociny po polsku

GT-Jim|Beam was bitten by the.shiznikx
[A] Cadynum.ddos: stop whining
[A] xoravsA-TG: right?
zappbrannigan joined the aliens
xoravsA-TG was gunned down by a turret
[A] -sg.Darkclaw-: naw
Grunt was bitten by zappbrannigan
GT-Jim|Beam was pounced upon by -sg.Darkclaw-'s Dragoon
Alan Turing was bitten by zappbrannigan
zappbrannigan was machinegunned by Bulgar
[Spec] GT-Sneaky[g]: conversation is not whining, cadynum
es.ddos was gunned down by a turret
tamtam princess was chomped by -sg.Darkclaw-'s Dragoon
C.dc was machinegunned by Dip
Bulgar was bitten by zappbrannigan
Cucarachakiller was bitten by xoravsA-TG
xoravsA-TG was gunned down by a turret
Grunt was clawed by es.ddos's Marauder
[A] Cadynum.ddos: i think this one was
Grunt was pounced upon by es.ddos's Dragoon
[H] Bulgar: K56 we change server ?
Cucarachakiller was clawed by xoravsA-TG's Marauder
tamtam princess was pounced upon by es.ddos's Dragoon
GT-Jim|Beam left the humans
Grunt was bitten by zappbrannigan
Alan Turing was clawed by xoravsA-TG's Marauder
the.shiznikx was machinegunned by Dip
xoravsA-TG was machinegunned by Cucarachakiller
Dip was bitten by zappbrannigan
-sg.Darkclaw- was machinegunned by Cucarachakiller
Cadynum.ddos was machinegunned by Bulgar
Bulgar was clawed by xoravsA-TG's Marauder
[Spec] GT-Sneaky[g]: cadynum, jeme puli buliba bi bala bon jamba
Dip was chomped by es.ddos's Dragoon
Nuwanda was bitten by -sg.Darkclaw-
Grunt was clawed by xoravsA-TG's Marauder
zappbrannigan was gunned down by a turret

<Kicked by Caynum.ddos Reason: language>

so i ask the admins here, where in the rules does it say not to speak anything but English? I've read them 3 times now.
also, what i said to cadynum.ddos right before he kicked me (jeme puli buliba bi bala bon jamba) wasn't any language, but some made up garbled text that only resembles a language and it means nothing lol.

in all fairness i should have been muted, but doesn't being banned for 2 days seem a bit harsh, especially when there is no rule posted about foreign languages and/or made up languages?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 08:26:59 pm by sneaky »

Asvarox

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 09:18:16 pm »
First: thanks for highlighting me :) (just for peoples curiousness I wrote "...in common sense that not everyone likes to read some polish babbling").
Second: while I disagree with you (public chat should stay in english on official server so it stays clean, there are private messages for a reason), I also disagree with Cadynum's action and if I noticed it, I would definitely ask to unban you. Kicking and BANNING FOR 2 DAYS just because someone wrote "jeme puli buliba bi bala bon jamba" (lol, gotta bind this one) is extremely inopportune. Even mute would be totally uncalled for (you weren't even spaming, you sent just one freakin meaningless message).
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Undeference

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 10:24:39 pm »
jeme puli buliba bi bala bon jamba
i think you said something about partying with someone's bundle (that you own, i guess) in croatian and hungarian. as far as cussing in croatian (skočit ću ti golom guzicom u lice), that's pretty timid, but i could see that being offensive to a hungarian (fatökű)

i was going to check if you are still banned, but apparently i'm not an admin on eu1
so poukisa tout manm spam gt?
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sneaky

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 11:38:59 pm »
...you weren't even spaming, you sent just one freakin meaningless message).
yea, i wasn't spamming at all.  if someone could unban me, lecture and demote ladybum that would be awesome, but i'll settle for just an unbanning :-D

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 11:50:31 pm »
You are unbanned, along with another guy who was banned 1 day for "language"
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sneaky

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 11:55:47 pm »
thanks, Undeference, you're a cool cat  8)

Cadynum

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 08:48:21 pm »
I only meant to ban you for 1 day, if you got banned for 2 it was a typo.
Since I only know a couple of languages there was no way for me to know you just made something up.
From reading your condump it's clear you just wanted to make a witty comment, however it didn't, for me, appear like that in game. I agree I shouldn't have banned you. Sorry.

Undeference: You unbanned him and another guy I gave a 1 day language ban to. The other guy DID however deserve his ban. Don't know why you had to unban him.

sneaky

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Re: banned 2 days for language?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 01:38:08 am »
I only meant to ban you for 1 day, if you got banned for 2 it was a typo.
Since I only know a couple of languages there was no way for me to know you just made something up.
From reading your condump it's clear you just wanted to make a witty comment, however it didn't, for me, appear like that in game. I agree I shouldn't have banned you. Sorry.

Undeference: You unbanned him and another guy I gave a 1 day language ban to. The other guy DID however deserve his ban. Don't know why you had to unban him.

hi Ladybum.bjob, thanks for your insightful reply.  a true and fair admin would have just simply muted me.  maybe next time you want to ban someone for 'language' you will consider a mute, then kick, and then if you must ban specify if the 'language' is foreign or foul.  don't they teach you guys this stuff in admin camp?  ;-)

anyway, maybe the official rules should be updated to reflect this unofficial 'english only' chat policy?  that way this type of thing can be avoided altogether.

regards,
my balls are asleep because i was sitting on them for too long