Marauder sound is from Planet earth!!!!

[Zergling]

I just got planet earth, season 1, and i was watching the freshwater episode. Then there was a scene where a grizzly and its cubs come to hunt salmon, THEY MADE MARAUDER NOISES (i think i play trem too much). then this go me thinking, where would the other alien noises come from? if anyone else know post it!

[Demolution]

You're beyond late. Like a million topics ago late.

[GeneralScott]

Mhhmm. The goon noises are from camels' braying sped up and screwed with, and I know the others have real-life counterparts too.

[mooseberry]

These were two threads I found about your exact specific discovery in about 5 seconds of lazy searching. Please, we know.

http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=7745.0

http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=2527.0

[CreatureofHell]

Congratulations! Did you know the world already had a second world war? Did you know that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago?

[your face]

Did you know that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago?

no

[amz181]

Did you know that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago?

no

WHA...

 

[jm82792]

Well flooding can mess up carbon dating

[mooseberry]

Well flooding can mess up carbon dating

Yikes. I don't want to derail this thread, but carbon dating is counting the carbon atoms, and using that number along with the knowledge of carbon-14's half life to asses the age of something, unusual movement of bodies of water has nothing to do with it. 

[F50]

Its not directly the movement of water, but if a organic being (read: carbon based life form) ever dies, it will deposit carbon where it rots. So if any seaweed or fish or unfortunate land creature, etc. dies in a flood, then carbon dating becomes problematic as bits of flesh can be hidden in places that we would not expect, and leave no evidence after decaying. Same goes for lava flows (which screw up geological dating even more due to other factors) and other acts of nature.

[mooseberry]

Its not directly the movement of water, but if a organic being (read: carbon based life form) ever dies, it will deposit carbon where it rots. So if any seaweed or fish or unfortunate land creature, etc. dies in a flood, then carbon dating becomes problematic. Same goes for lava flows (which screw up geological dating even more due to other factors) and other acts of nature.

That is why there is such a thing as calibration curves. Regardless, a fish (or a thousand) coming into contact with a dinosaur bone will not make it read 65 million years instead of 6,000. If you believe dinosaurs are 6,000 years old, that has to be explained outside of the potential faults of carbon dating.

[superspirality]

Am I the only one who thought 'carbon dating' has something to do with love for carbon?

[Pazuzu]

Isn't this getting a little off-top...
*re-reads OP*
Ah. Carry on.

[F50]

Its not directly the movement of water, but if a organic being (read: carbon based life form) ever dies, it will deposit carbon where it rots. So if any seaweed or fish or unfortunate land creature, etc. dies in a flood, then carbon dating becomes problematic. Same goes for lava flows (which screw up geological dating even more due to other factors) and other acts of nature.

That is why there is such a thing as calibration curves. Regardless, a fish (or a thousand) coming into contact with a dinosaur bone will not make it read 65 million years instead of 6,000. If you believe dinosaurs are 6,000 years old, that has to be explained outside of the potential faults of carbon dating.

Very true. However it should be noted that carbon dating can't give dates above 100,000 years anyways because the amount of carbon 14 left after such a time is too small to reliably measure (and a standard callibration curve only exists for 50,000 years according to wikipedia, although nonstandard curves may exist that cover longer periods). For that you have to use other radiometric dating methods (which are probably easier to calibrate anyways). But the point is, calibration curves cannot account for this, due to the local nature of floods and other natural disasters. While you might be able to account for fairly uniform organic deaths (like grass) one could not account for the chaotic distribution of dead life-forms that one would get from flooding etc. So you really can only get an upper limit this way, if you even want to touch carbon dating at all. In truth, you need to use several different radiometric dating methods that have different accuracy conditions and compare results. If one of those conditions are false, it'll show up, hopefully.

And yeah, this probably outlived its on-topic-ness after the fourth post or so.

[Aelita]

Yikes. I don't want to derail this thread,

what happened here

[K-otic]