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contesting ban/kick
« on: June 15, 2011, 11:40:33 pm »
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short version, i was rant, warlock was basi.  warlock had a human grabbed, i do what a rant does and made roadkill of the grabbed human.  warlock bleeds me, so i bleed him back.  he then at least kicks me (didnt check for ban)

so, we kick/ban people for "killstealing" and responding to a bleed?

i dont care what, if anything, you do to warlock.  i just want a ban, if any exists, removed.

**edit, not banned.  please curtail such frivolous kicks in the future, thank you much.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 11:45:35 pm by RAKninja-Decepticon »
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 11:44:22 pm »
Quote from: Kharnov
Then private message a developer or go on IRC. You know that these threads go nowhere. There is roughly a half year worth of similar threads.

The way I see it, things should only go public if they're so shocking that the entire community needs to read about them. The community tends to skewer everything with sarcasm and yelling and posting pictures. Nothing will ever get done if you post here except for another thread with 30 replies.

I think kharnov summed this up pretty well.

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 11:46:57 pm »
so i bleed him back
there's your problem

EDIT: Your ban is expired now.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 11:48:03 pm »
Didn't you also say this?

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shut up, i got three days and i never cried like a bitch over it.

anyway, i'm fairly sure the server rules have "no spamming" in there somewhere...*checks*  yep, #6.

i see a lot of spamming, most of it irratating.  ONE "grenade" is enough.  ONE "RUSH!" is enough.  ONE "DEFEND!" is enough.  i got disconnected from the server the other day because at the end of the map, about 3-4 people decided to find out just how much they could tap a spam-bound button.

if you pulled that shit right there on any server i was running, get banned, not just kicked.

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 11:57:43 pm »
I don't think you should've bled him back and I think the condump could've been massively shortened by getting right to the point, but I'll admit, Warlock does have a very short temper. I've seen him kick before for things that could've been easily resolved with /mute or /putteam or /denybuild. The only time I ever /kick someone is if they've been a repeat troll for more than a few weeks and they need something a little more jarring than a /mute.

Now, I'm not trying to out Warlock as some horrible abuser, but I think someone should talk to Warlock and remind him that there are commands besides /kick, and that most problems can be resolved without a 5-minute ban. I'd try to talk to Warlock, but there's the issue of the language barrier. Trying to communicate with Warlock is impossible. He is a French speaker on a server that is majority Anglophone.

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 12:05:46 am »
short version, i was rant, warlock was basi.  warlock had a human grabbed, i do what a rant does and made roadkill of the grabbed human.  warlock bleeds me, so i bleed him back.  he then at least kicks me (didnt check for ban)

so, we kick/ban people for "killstealing" and responding to a bleed?

*sigh*

Yes, I think there is an issue to be sorted out with warlock, but not over this. To get this straight, warlock does a little bit of damage to you as a basilisk, and then you bleed him as a tyrant? That's usually enough to tk a basi. Yes, warlock was being a bit too kick-happy (as usual), but I'm not sure if this is abuse.

Finally, and most importantly read the damn sticky, this should not have been a thread.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 12:24:20 am »
Don't intentionally tk an admin and then come crying to the forums when he kicks you. I can't believe I actually said that. Plus ksing a basi is a pretty dick move imo

Yes, warlock was being a bit too kick-happy (as usual), but I'm not sure if this is abuse.

Finally, and most importantly read the damn sticky, this should not have been a thread.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 12:48:28 am »
as i said, i give a shit about anything happening to warlock.  i just want to play on us 1.  i was not screaming about abuse and the removal of admins, i am contesting a kick/ban... which is allready expired.

as i dont feel the issue is THAT important, i see no need to look up who the active developers are who handle this, nor install IRC.

i bled him back, yes.  dont bleed me, i dont bleed you.  as i understood it, there is no killstealing, only teamwork.  bleed me for teamwork, yes, i will bleed you back, TK you if you cant survive the one hit i give back.  

if this is the way you want the official server represented, fine, its the business of the team developing.  personally, if i were running the server, i'd ensure my admins were a bit more... professional in how they handle "infractions".  but it's your server, do as you see fit.

sorry there isnt more drama, i know many of you thrive on it.

edit -

in response to f50 telling me to read the sticky -

i did.  i read the official rules sticky.

the NEW sticky that kharnov posted about contesting "admin abuse" is something i have not read until now.  i suggest that if what kharnov posted is standard procedure for contesting admin action (not just claiming admin abuse) the rules thread be edited to reflect this.  i was not feeling abused, so i did not read that thread.  i checked to see if i had broken a rule, then followed such directions as were given.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 02:08:24 am »
i bled him back, yes.  dont bleed me, i dont bleed you.  as i understood it, there is no killstealing, only teamwork.  bleed me for teamwork, yes, i will bleed you back, TK you if you cant survive the one hit i give back.  

This is a great philosophy if you want to get kicked/banned. Of course, you are perfectly free to kill whatever humans you want, it is courteous to leave kills to basilisks, but not necessary. Teammates on the other hand are a different matter entirely.

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If it has happened many times, record and condump the specific instances and follow the steps to resolve bannings.

If this is the first time, suck it up.  We're not the girl scouts.

You broke the rules. You were kicked for all of 5 minutes. Suck it up. We're not the girl scouts. It doesn't matter which sticky you read, we really just shouldn't have threads like this.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 12:01:14 pm »
i bled him back, yes.  dont bleed me, i dont bleed you.  as i understood it, there is no killstealing, only teamwork.  bleed me for teamwork, yes, i will bleed you back, TK you if you cant survive the one hit i give back.  

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 01:18:58 pm »
Drama Drama always Drama for a 5 min kick lol

Man you see me grabed ONE human alone from the back ... i got it, i was killing it, and i dont need you fucking noob rant help for killing 1 human alone .... You was a rant so i think it safe to tell that you was ok for evo ... so why you trample on me and release my prey + bleed me to 30hp ? (nice team play) ???

Man i think you fail hard at teamplay, i im sure that you realise it now, so if you crying for a dam 5 min kick you are FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

And one note to khalsa, (Mr perfect admin) you starting to make me mad, i understand english very well, but i dont read the normal chat on a server 95% of the time ( perhaps because of stupid that spam stuff like: I AM VERY FIRM, ect ) so if you have something to telling me, why not try private chat /m ?????

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 02:00:04 pm »

Man i think you fail hard at teamplay, i im sure that you realise it now, so if you crying for a dam 5 min kick you are FUCKING STUPID MORON KID



FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

FUCKING STUPID MORON KID
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 03:06:38 pm »
Inb4lock,

Bro, If you contested a kick for 5 minutes why the fuck did you even post about it. It was up in the time you posted this non-sensical thread. Now, I realize my postings contesting bans/mutes are almost like this, my recent one was for 6 hours. Honestly? You even said in another thread that you sucked it up, why contest a kick for 5 minutes then?

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 03:17:20 pm »
Inb4lock,

Bro, If you contested a kick for 5 minutes why the fuck did you even post about it. It was up in the time you posted this non-sensical thread. Now, I realize my postings contesting bans/mutes are almost like this, my recent one was for 6 hours. Honestly? You even said in another thread that you sucked it up, why contest a kick for 5 minutes then?
It's usually an issue of pride. People (in general) have to know they're justified, or that there's something they can change for next time. Really though, who here hasn't felt a bit angry if they got kicked (or muted)?

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 05:57:25 pm »
Inb4lock,

Bro, If you contested a kick for 5 minutes why the fuck did you even post about it. It was up in the time you posted this non-sensical thread. Now, I realize my postings contesting bans/mutes are almost like this, my recent one was for 6 hours. Honestly? You even said in another thread that you sucked it up, why contest a kick for 5 minutes then?
It's usually an issue of pride. People (in general) have to know they're justified, or that there's something they can change for next time. Really though, who here hasn't felt a bit angry if they got kicked (or muted)?
And how many of us sunk to the level of posting a fucking thread about it? This section has been polluted with so much idiocy it makes me sick. It's abnormal even for this forum.
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 07:05:48 pm »
And one note to khalsa, (Mr perfect admin) you starting to make me mad
khalsa, (Mr perfect admin)
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okay what

You make up Qrntz, u always angry, just calmdown. :police:
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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 07:48:32 pm »
Drama Drama always Drama for a 5 min kick lol

Man you see me grabed ONE human alone from the back ... i got it, i was killing it, and i dont need you fucking noob rant help for killing 1 human alone .... You was a rant so i think it safe to tell that you was ok for evo ... so why you trample on me and release my prey + bleed me to 30hp ? (nice team play) ???

Man i think you fail hard at teamplay, i im sure that you realise it now, so if you crying for a dam 5 min kick you are FUCKING STUPID MORON KID

And one note to khalsa, (Mr perfect admin) you starting to make me mad, i understand english very well, but i dont read the normal chat on a server 95% of the time ( perhaps because of stupid that spam stuff like: I AM VERY FIRM, ect ) so if you have something to telling me, why not try private chat /m ?????

WarLock

rant trample does not hurt aliens. if you got to 30hp, it was because you were shot. i did not slash at all (finger not on mouse1) until you bled me.

i made the thread pre-emptively, as from past experience shows me that a "5 min kick" precedes longer bans.  yea, i moved a little fast in making the thread, oh well, lesson learned.

f50, the first time, i did suck it up.  that's why you wont see a thread like this for that 3 day ban i got for a single TK i keep mentioning.  as you can see from warlock's attitude, appealing to him would not be productive.  i moved then to step 3.  furthermore, i see in the player rules "no griefing".  my bleed/tk would be the griefing yes?  what then about admin rule #!?  admins must follow all the player rules.  if _I_ went around bleeding everyone who killed an human i had dead to rights as a basi, i'd be teamkilling all day.  but that's not what this about.  this was a minor situation, and i was taking steps to ensure i did not stay banned for any period of time.  as i did not know yet if i was actually banned or just kicked, i moved pro-actively.

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 08:39:00 pm »
Man i will not enter in this baby fight, but just understand that you are classified to me. Making error is normal but not admit your fault is terribly wrong (if you have a girlfriend you will understand).

Take it easy and learn from that

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 09:02:19 pm »
Alright, just to give my two cents, I'll say that many a time I have been chomping on a human when some douchestick alien gets in my way and I accidentally bleed him. I don't know if this was the case this time, but if it was RAK, you're a douchestick x2. There's no reason to bleed smaller aliens if you get bled accidentally, or even purposely, for that matter. Grow the hell up and dont' make threads. If it was my server I would've banned you. I know this is completely contradictory to what I said earlier but I'm sick and fucking tired of all this mindless debacle. It's pointless, it's annoying, and it's cancerous. It needs to be dead, dead, dead. Swept under the carpet. Shredded. Nuked. Gone.

I think threads, especially in this section, need to be locked as soon as the issue is resolved - be that resolution that the ban remains, is lengthened, or removed. I think the admin in question as well as a senior admin should give their opinion before said lock, and the member in question should have a last word or two before it. Perhaps permissions could be set so that posting is restricted to a topic's creator and any admins/mods. This section is polluted, and having allowing people who aren't involved to comment doesn't help.

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Re: contesting ban/kick
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 09:15:24 pm »
Be careful with kicks for "kill stealing". It's iffy whether or not that's even admin-actionable, and certainly a rant can trample around the corner and do this without even trying.

Don't "bleed someone back". That's obviously a stupid response to anything.

Follow posted guidelines about posting abuse threads. This really didn't warrant one.

the NEW sticky that kharnov posted about contesting "admin abuse" is something i have not read until now.  i suggest that if what kharnov posted is standard procedure for contesting admin action (not just claiming admin abuse) the rules thread be edited to reflect this.  i was not feeling abused, so i did not read that thread.  i checked to see if i had broken a rule, then followed such directions as were given.
The rules thread was already edited to reflect that, before his thread was stickied.

Warlock, Kharnov is not the same as Khalsa.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 09:19:17 pm by Lakitu7 »