a new name for TremZ

[/dev/humancontroller]

we need to replace "TremZ" with a new name that conforms to the following the design goals:

• the name must be unique (ie., names like Deluge and Overflow are already taken by irrelevant projects, and are therefore rejected)
• the name should be word that is not already strongly associated with something, as defined by the results from internet search engines (the name is preferrably a previously non-existent word, and nothing relevant is found when searched for via search engines)
• the name should be creatively composed: if the name came from a minute of thinking by a less than 20-year-old person, then it most likely sucks; the reason for this is that more mature people catch up on the immature decisions of immature people (for example, Alien Killers)
• the name should sound epic when pronounced

a couple of additional, not so important design goals are:

• the name should be rather short and rather easy to pronounce
• the name should not raise a pronouncication controversy (ie., Variator, TremZ, etc.)

a common mistake people make in naming the project is that they chose a name that historically relates to the project or contains "legalese", but resembles absolutely nothing to new people who are not familiar with the history or the said "legal" terminology:

• TremZ was used (as i suspected!) because it was thought by the developers that the project would be the last fork of Tremulous
• without a doubt, A new dawn also has the background thought of the developers' opinion that something refreshingly new is coming with the project; this name actually also fails at the 3rd point of the list of primary design goals

the most secure way to create a name meeting the listed criteria is to weave new words, possibly from existing word pieces. for example, one could look up a list of words (a dictionary) and selectively gather words or word pieces that sound epic, and full words from those later on. here's a tip: foreign words often sound very interesting in english (look up a list of foreign words).

a choice of mine is: Arbitry.

as an example for word weaving: someone gave me a list of words of an unknown origin (language): kokon, linnan, menet, menetae, profumo, rokat, rokin, rokka; and my mixture of these is: promekat.

we also somewhat require a new name for the development team. i propose Rendbeni Technologies.

[/dev/humancontroller]

epicly-sounding names like Nocturne and Unvanquished have been proposed. unfortunately, these names are already taken: Nocturne, Unvanquished.

[Nux]

How appropriate, Arbitry sounds like what it is: Arbitrary. Also I'm fairly sure it fails to meet some of your set goals (for example: how do you pronounce the 'y'? Like an 'ee' or like an 'ah-ee')

I don't know if there's a problem with the current name which has already become fairly well established. Am I to take it you don't like it? Not that I think it's very creative either but as the old addage goes,

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. A poo by any other name would smell like poo.

[/dev/humancontroller]

how do you pronounce the 'y'? Like an 'ee' or like an 'ah-ee'

like any other word which has been composed with -ry: like circuitry, faggotry, etc.

[Nux]

You seem to be forgetting the simplest examples: Dry, Cry, Fry, Pry, Try, etc.

[/dev/humancontroller]

You seem to be forgetting the simplest examples: Dry, Cry, Fry, Pry, Try, etc.

those are root words, the ry ending is an integral part of them, ie., t is not a word to which you add ry.
find a word that has more than 1 syllable and has a ry ending where the y is pronounced like eye.

[Nux]

I'll retry to decry this 'Arbitry'!

Surely we're going off on a tangent here.

[/dev/humancontroller]

retry

decry

did you just add re and de prefixes to the root words try and cry?

[CreatureofHell]

retry

decry

did you just add re and de prefixes to the root words try and cry?

And he got them to be more than one syllable and have an ry ending where the y is pronounced like eye.

[/dev/humancontroller]

let's put it this way: try to gather as much words that have an eye pronounced at the end. my prediction is that they can generally be condensed into a structural rule which does not apply to Arbitry, and vice versa for other ry-ending words. in other words, despite the fact that an evil reader might want to twist the pronouncication of Arbitry to something fancy, the only natural pronouncication is the one similar to theory. this is unlike TremZ, where the capital Z suggests a separate letter (an easy fix for TremZ is to use Tremz); also note that the controversy related to tremzee vs tremzzz is only based on the fact that the inventors of the TremZ word thought differently AND advertised their intended pronouncication after it turned out to be unnatural.

[Sirgibalot]

sentient Infestation

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Advancing Tremulous with Computer Science

or ATCS for short.

i also nominate this as the name of your development team.


seriously though; convulsive, timorous,or pusillanimous.

[KenuR]

I tried to come up with a kewl name but they all ended up sounding cheesy  .

[Nux]

This line of discussion has, most certainly, gone awry.

I'm not in disagreement with you that the vast majority of words that end with those letters tend to sound that way. One factor to consider is that the simplest words are likely the more commonly used and that, of those, the one I'd guess is the most common by FAR is also the last syllable of your word.

Yet even if you ignore how words like 'try' are pronounced there's still a very real potential for confusion. For instance, I put it to you that 'Arbitrary' is an often used and mispronounced word. In the same way that people will often stumble over the middle syllable of 'Library' and slur it out as something closer to 'Libry', 'Arbitrary' is uttered exactly like your name for TremZ. It seems pretty likely to me that people will mishear your word as 'Arbitrary' and confusion will result.

Also notable is how I'm from England so I read 'TremZ' as [trem-zed]; adding further ambiguity to how it's pronounced.

[/dev/humancontroller]

people will often stumble over the middle syllable of 'Library' and slur it out as something closer to 'Libry'

you probably mean "Liburry", which is strongly discernable from "Libry".

[ULTRA Random ViruS]

this may sound stupid, simple and silly, but it is a fork of tremulous, why not name it 'Tremulous2: Reborn/Refurbished/The Rise of the [scientific word for a exo-skeletonal bug with 6 legs and a main body part]' or something like it?

Advancing Tremulous with Computer Science

F1

I read 'TremZ' as [trem-zed]

'Tremzed'. Sounds ok.

tremy treming tremulously tremzd tremulous tremded tremulous tremd hurr hurr they only contain trem everywhere.

[Tremulant]

people will often stumble over the middle syllable of 'Library' and slur it out as something closer to 'Libry'

you probably mean "Liburry", which is strongly discernable from "Libry".

Being a lazy englishman myself i can tell you that i've probably been guilty of pronouncing it Lie-Brie, which could conceivably be transcribed as libry.

As for TremZ, the capitalisation didn't cause me to pronounce the z separately.

Can we end this dumb-fuckery and just leave devhc to troll himself?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Can we end this dumb-fuckery and just leave devhc to troll himself?

congratulations, you have completely misunderstood the point of this topic.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Can we end this dumb-fuckery and just leave devhc to troll himself?

no.  that's no fun.

[Survivor]

Why is this here, and not here?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Why is this here, and not here?

because the latter is full of trolls that have admin permissions.

[/dev/humancontroller]

let's call the game Dushan's Bag of Shit!

[kharnov]

Why is this here, and not here?

He's acting unilaterally, we never gave him permission to post this over here. Please lock this thread, and sorry for him wasting your time.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

He's acting unilaterally, we never gave him permission to post this over here. Please lock this thread, and sorry for him wasting your time.

not everyone has (or wants to have) an account over there.  while D/HC might have "overstepped his bounds" a bit posting this without consent from the rest of the team here, this discussion only benefits the Advancing Tremulous with Computer Science...err... i mean tremz project.  no reason to lock it, if you were to ask me.

[/dev/humancontroller]

we never gave him permission to post this over here. Please lock this thread

i never gave you the permission to post that other thread over at tremz.com and the permission to ask to lock this thread.

[Qrntz]

let's call the game Dushan's Bag of Shit!

Not anymore
 

[your face]

Thanks for the input everyone, the new name of the game is :
Mashed Potatoes and Gravy: the Frying

No further discussion needed, so this topic is now locked.