SamOz's MImod (Mirai Ikusa Visual & Sound version)

[SamOz]

samoz, for the upteenth time, publication "counts" as "claiming credit".

Releasing a mod on the internet does NOT legally equate to claiming credit for the creation of EVERY asset in the mod, MORON. Neither are there any documents in the mod stating that I claim credit for everything in the mod, nor are there claims by me in any posts on this thread claiming credit for everything in the mod. You keep up the BS and look dumber repeatedly. Your imaginary redefining of the laws and agreements regarding licenses have not changed the real world one iota.

The only reason that you "harangue" anybody is because you apparently get kicks out of trolling, evidenced by your very specific action as neither of you two nutty trolls are trying to stir shit about all of those other mods released on this forum which neither include any attribution nor give credit, or at best provide very little and have almost no relevant documentation. Yet, you wish to pretend that I am somehow worthy of special attention. It's obvious that you are both crazy loons out to lie and spout crap like a tag-team sitting on each other's lap.

By the way, your truly hallucinatory comment about basi implies that you play a very different Tremulous game from the vanilla version, since the humans stand-out like sore thumbs anyway. Either that, or in the games you've played, humans have a habit of trying to find odd patches of green-grey wall on ATCS to hide near for camouflage. I've never seen any such walls that match their uniforms; can you provide screenshots of this weirdness that you seem to be pretending exists?

[/dev/humancontroller]

Releasing a mod on the internet does NOT legally equate to claiming credit for the creation of EVERY asset in the mod

however, the following does equate to legally claiming credit for the creation of most (in any case, a lot more than permissible) assets in the mod:

the majority of what's in this mod is the result of my hard work, not others. That's nearly every Alien sound, Human sound, all of their skins, many of the other rougher-looking textures used in the maps

furthermore, additional confirmation of claim-of-copyright is given by the fact that there is practically no metadata in the files (where attribution or copyright statements are supposedly required, it is claimed that

The metadata contains the name and source of the sounds.

).

and now, it's time to reveal the true sources of the sample sounds from the package.

• sound/player/human_base/falling1.wav: this is a slightly-sped-up modification of the Sarge falling sound from Quake 3.
• sound/player/human_base/gib.wav: this is an exact copy of the gibbing sound of zombies, imps from Doom 2.

as i said, as time move on, it will become more and more apparent that samoz is just another side of the volt-samoz-hermxiv-dushbag ripoff squad.

• (models/weapons/level1/impactflesh0.wav: i haven't definitely recognized this one yet, but it resembles something from the Avernum series.)

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

samoz, for the upteenth time, publication "counts" as "claiming credit".

Releasing a mod on the internet does NOT legally equate to claiming credit for the creation of EVERY asset in the mod, MORON.

yes, it does.

Neither are there any documents in the mod stating that I claim credit for everything in the mod, nor are there claims by me in any posts on this thread claiming credit for everything in the mod.

there does not need to be.  yes, there is.  dev/hc quoted it above.

You keep up the BS and look dumber repeatedly. Your imaginary redefining of the laws and agreements regarding licenses have not changed the real world one iota.

talking to yourself?

The only reason that you "harangue" anybody is because you apparently get kicks out of trolling, evidenced by your very specific action as neither of you two nutty trolls are trying to stir shit about all of those other mods released on this forum which neither include any attribution nor give credit, or at best provide very little and have almost no relevant documentation. Yet, you wish to pretend that I am somehow worthy of special attention.

you dont know why i do anything.  other mods are not in question here, yours is.

It's obvious that you are both crazy loons out to lie and spout crap like a tag-team sitting on each other's lap.

you have no clue what you're talking about.

By the way, your truly hallucinatory comment about basi implies that you play a very different Tremulous game from the vanilla version, since the humans stand-out like sore thumbs anyway. Either that, or in the games you've played, humans have a habit of trying to find odd patches of green-grey wall on ATCS to hide near for camouflage. I've never seen any such walls that match their uniforms; can you provide screenshots of this weirdness that you seem to be pretending exists?

play something other than atcs, dick.

also, you could not show proof of my supposed lying and word twisting...  because there was none.  that makes you a liar.

[SamOz]

It's amazing how stupid you must think everyone else is, Rak-whatever

Putting some mod, or any file at all, for that matter, up online is NOT, and NEVER has been equal to legally claiming that you made the whole thing. You're an idiot and a liar. If you put up the whole game of Tremulous online at a dropbox, that doesn't equal to you pretending to have made the whole game; you have to misrepresent credit by stating at the start that you made it all, your bullshit otherwise has no legal standing. According to your insanity, if someone posts up a collection of photos by their mother, stating that it's a collection of photos by their mother, you're going to claim that the poster is claiming credit for taking every one of the photos even though the poster already stated that those photos were taken by their mother. OMG! You really are incredibly braindead. The law doesn't see it that way either. Neither do most sane people.

Dev-HC can mislead and misquote and lie to the end of the world, it does not change the fact that I have NEVER claimed credit for making every damn thing in the mod. You two twits are both lying so much, I suspect that you've lost track of what reality is. There is nothing that I've created in the mod that's in breach of copyright laws, despite your wild misrepresentations of the laws. It's plainly a fan work, being stated at the start as being a mod, and it's easily recognised as non-commercial, with plentiful attributions, no disregard of previous credit. You two lying a*holes have been shovelling BS since the beginning of the thread, with clearly no honest intentions at all; your motivation for personal abuse was exposed already.

A sound from another quake mod, which I have NEVER claimed to have made, and has metadata stating it's from a quake mod or another person is NOT and NEVER has been evidence that I claimed to have made it falsely; because you stupid lying pair of losers, I never claimed to have made those particular sounds, as was made VERY CLEAR at the start, ONLY those sounds which have the name "OnlyTheGhosts" were made by me. I never claimed otherwise. The 'falling' wav sound and zombie sound don't have that name on them, and I never claimed credit for them. Dev-HC is misrepresenting reality and spouting crap through the keyboard yet again. Dev-HC is so desperate to find 'evidence', he outright lies all the damn time. You're getting to be more than just ridiculous, Dev-HC, now you want to play silly childish games of 'Let's Pretend' that SamOz claimed credit for a sound which SamOz never actually claim credit for. I made only the sounds which have the name OnlyTheGhosts in the metadata, I stated this in the first post, but you have to lie and pretend that I was claiming credit for everything in the mod anyway. Geez, you're a brainless little liar, Dev-HC.

Your bullshit is getting quite bizarre.

And, by the way, Rak-whatever, I referred to the standard maps, not just ATCS - but you're too full of shit to be able to back your crap. The humans have always been highly visible in the game. They are NOT camouflaged to fit in, and never have been. The faux military look of khaki stands out like a sore thumb on every standard map. None of the standard maps have that colour scheme anywhere.

Thanks again for bumping the thread.

[kharnov]

But you're bumping your own thread?

[SamOz]

But you're bumping your own thread?

Whose thread? Make up your mind, K.

[kharnov]

You're crazy.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

It's amazing how stupid you must think everyone else is, Rak-whatever

Putting some mod, or any file at all, for that matter, up online is NOT, and NEVER has been equal to legally claiming that you made the whole thing. You're an idiot and a liar. If you put up the whole game of Tremulous online at a dropbox, that doesn't equal to you pretending to have made the whole game; you have to misrepresent credit by stating at the start that you made it all, your bullshit otherwise has no legal standing. According to your insanity, if someone posts up a collection of photos by their mother, stating that it's a collection of photos by their mother, you're going to claim that the poster is claiming credit for taking every one of the photos even though the poster already stated that those photos were taken by their mother. OMG! You really are incredibly braindead. The law doesn't see it that way either. Neither do most sane people.

see: "Tremulous 2" aka tremz.

Dev-HC can mislead and misquote and lie to the end of the world, it does not change the fact that I have NEVER claimed credit for making every damn thing in the mod. You two twits are both lying so much, I suspect that you've lost track of what reality is. There is nothing that I've created in the mod that's in breach of copyright laws, despite your wild misrepresentations of the laws. It's plainly a fan work, being stated at the start as being a mod, and it's easily recognised as non-commercial, with plentiful attributions, no disregard of previous credit. You two lying a*holes have been shovelling BS since the beginning of the thread, with clearly no honest intentions at all; your motivation for personal abuse was exposed already.

you are more batshit insane than an autistic deviantart drama queen.

A sound from another quake mod, which I have NEVER claimed to have made, and has metadata stating it's from a quake mod or another person is NOT and NEVER has been evidence that I claimed to have made it falsely; because you stupid lying pair of losers, I never claimed to have made those particular sounds, as was made VERY CLEAR at the start, ONLY those sounds which have the name "OnlyTheGhosts" were made by me. I never claimed otherwise. The 'falling' wav sound and zombie sound don't have that name on them, and I never claimed credit for them. Dev-HC is misrepresenting reality and spouting crap through the keyboard yet again. Dev-HC is so desperate to find 'evidence', he outright lies all the damn time. You're getting to be more than just ridiculous, Dev-HC, now you want to play silly childish games of 'Let's Pretend' that SamOz claimed credit for a sound which SamOz never actually claim credit for. I made only the sounds which have the name OnlyTheGhosts in the metadata, I stated this in the first post, but you have to lie and pretend that I was claiming credit for everything in the mod anyway. Geez, you're a brainless little liar, Dev-HC.

quote my lies.  i triple dog dare you.

Your bullshit is getting quite bizarre.

no, it's a quite simple circular argument.

And, by the way, Rak-whatever, I referred to the standard maps, not just ATCS - but you're too full of shit to be able to back your crap. The humans have always been highly visible in the game. They are NOT camouflaged to fit in, and never have been. The faux military look of khaki stands out like a sore thumb on every standard map. None of the standard maps have that colour scheme anywhere.

they do not blend for the most part, nor do they pop, as your work does.  your work is like "high contrast" mode. "here, have the bright shiney target to aim at!"

Thanks again for bumping the thread.

anytime

[/dev/humancontroller]

Putting some mod, or any file at all, for that matter, up online is NOT, and NEVER has been equal to legally claiming that you made the whole thing.

irrelevant. putting something presented as "<insert_your_name_here>'s <insert_your_thing_here>", coupled with statements such as "most of the work inside is mine" does equate to claiming ownership of each part by default.

You're an idiot and a liar.

WRONG.

you have to misrepresent credit by stating at the start that you made it all

or at least that you made most (when in fact you haven't).

According to your insanity

WRONG.

if someone posts up a collection of photos by their mother, stating that it's a collection of photos by their mother, you're going to claim that the poster is claiming credit for taking every one of the photos even though the poster already stated that those photos were taken by their mother.

WRONG.

You really are incredibly braindead.

WRONG.

The law doesn't see it that way either.

yes; thus, you're WRONG.

Neither do most sane people.

yes; thus, you're WRONG.

Dev-HC can mislead and misquote and lie to the end of the world

yes, the almighty /dev/humancontroller has such a unique ability. you have yet to see it in action.

it does not change the fact that I have NEVER claimed credit for making every damn thing in the mod.

it does not change the fact that you have claimed credit for making most of the things in the mod.

You two twits are both lying

WRONG.

you've lost track of what reality is.

WRONG.

There is nothing that I've created in the mod that's in breach of copyright laws

yeah, it's the things that you didn't create (but included in the package and presented as your own) that is in breach of copyright laws. even laws are mostly irrelevant, because anti-fuckface conventions are more significant.

It's plainly a fan work

read: a remix of attribution-stripped content from the net.

with plentiful attributions

WRONG.

no disregard of previous credit

WRONG.

You two lying a*holes have been shovelling BS since the beginning of the thread

WRONG.

with clearly no honest intentions

WRONG.

your motivation for personal abuse was exposed already.

abuse of fuckfaces, that is.

A sound from another quake mod, which I have NEVER claimed to have made

WRONG.

has metadata

WRONG.

you stupid lying pair of losers

WRONG.

sounds which have the name "OnlyTheGhosts" were made by me.

what about sounds that don't have any metadata, ie., most files, such as those that are in the "most human sounds and most alien sounds" group? face it: these fall into the default interpretation: you've claimed ownership, and now you're trying to make it appear otherwise.

I never claimed credit for them.

WRONG.

Dev-HC is misrepresenting reality and spouting crap through the keyboard yet again.

WRONG.

he outright lies all the damn time

WRONG.

You're getting to be more than just ridiculous

WRONG.

now you want to play silly childish games of 'Let's Pretend' that SamOz claimed credit for a sound which SamOz never actually claim credit for.

WRONG.

I made only the sounds which have the name OnlyTheGhosts in the metadata, I stated this in the first post

and also that you've made most aliens sounds and most human sounds.

but you have to lie and pretend that I was claiming credit for everything in the mod anyway.

WRONG.

you're a brainless little liar

WRONG.

Your bullshit is getting quite bizarre.

WRONG.

did i mention that samoz is WRONG?

[SamOz]

Dev-HC, you continually reveal extreme and deep ignorance of copyright laws. Copyright law does not go by your wacky lunatic and stunningly ignorant assumptions of claims of ownership of the whole by 'default'. The author of a work, even without making any copyright claim in documentary form, is considered to only be responsible and credited for the work that they did, and not any other work that their part may be packaged with. It never says anywhere that an author claims credit for the whole of a work that is produced by others, regardless of whether that author created 1% or 99% of the whole. They're only responsible for their bit, and nothing more. That's also how most normal, sane, commonsense people see it too; obviously, you're not counted among any of those, but are among the weirdo kind of nutter who doesn't know a damn thing about legality and so you just spout crap like any other dumbass troll on the internet.

I've yet to see you show that most of the new sounds for the aliens and humans were not made by me (under the name OnlyTheGhosts), instead you've just bullshitted about claims of credit for stuff which I have NEVER actually claimed credit for. You keep proving that you're a liar as well as an idiot. I also haven't stripped attribution, there's way more attribution than any of the other mods that I've seen here in this forum, so you're full of crap as per usual when you claim otherwise.

When you say 'wrong' without any detailed reasoning as to 'why', it just shows that YOU HAVE NO LOGICAL REASON and KNOW that you can't make one that would withstand any more scrutiny than your previous lunacy. You're a joke. LOL

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

When you say 'wrong' without any detailed reasoning as to 'why', it just shows that YOU HAVE NO LOGICAL REASON and KNOW that you can't make one that would withstand any more scrutiny than your previous lunacy. You're a joke. LOL

you say "lies" without any detailed reasoning backing you up.  it just shows that YOU HAVE NO LOGICAL REASON, and KNOW that you cant make one that would withstand any more scrutiny than your deranged mind.  you are a joke that sadly isnt funny.  =|

hypocrite.

[/dev/humancontroller]

your wacky lunatic and stunningly ignorant assumptions of claims of ownership of the whole by 'default'.

WRONG. each part, not the whole.

The author of a work, even without making any copyright claim in documentary form, is considered to only be responsible and credited for the work that they did, and not any other work that their part may be packaged with.

WRONG. as has been said numerous times before, undue crediting amounts to plagiarism ("if you did not write it yourself, you must give credit"), and can be a violation of copyright or agreements. specifically,

• the CC license requires that proper attribution be given, but such has not been given;
• the exclusively copyrighted nature of Quake 3 assets does not allow any modification or reuse (and "fair use" is not applicable in an audience that is not associated with Quake 3, for most users may not even have a copy of Quake 3), but you have blatantly published a trivial modification, and on top of that, you did that silently.

instead, you have explicitly claimed to have made most of the alien and human sounds and textures.

It never says anywhere that an author claims credit for the whole of a work that is produced by others, regardless of whether that author created 1% or 99% of the whole. They're only responsible for their bit, and nothing more.

congratulations on making an incoherent paragraph of bullshit.

That's also how most normal, sane, commonsense people see it too

because most people are retarded. however, it is the educated, "super-sane", reasonably-sensed people who have the say in what's legal, ethical, etc.

weirdo kind of nutter who doesn't know a damn thing about legality and so you just spout crap like any other dumbass troll on the internet.

WRONG.

I've yet to see you show that most of the new sounds for the aliens and humans were not made by me

i've already shown that most of the textures have not been made by you (you only applied trivial modifications to make the copying of textures not ultra-obvious), despite your claims. i have only definitely recognized a few ripped-off sounds (i have not listened to every fucking sound file in existence to be able to recognize all), but you have already lost the credibility of making trustworthy ownership/copyright statements long ago.

You keep proving that you're a liar as well as an idiot.

WRONG.

I also haven't stripped attribution

WRONG. you've failed to include the text of the CC license (in the earlier versions of the package), CC statements, and work origins.

there's way more attribution than any of the other mods that I've seen here in this forum

open your eyes. but that's irrelevant anyway. what matters is that you're part of the volt-samoz-hermxiv-dushbag ripoff squad, and for the good of humanity, we must vanquish you and your attribution-lacking content from the Internet.

you're full of crap as per usual when you claim otherwise.

WRONG.

When you say 'wrong' without any detailed reasoning as to 'why', it just shows

that the quoted statement has no reasoning backing it up, or is just evidently WRONG (including its (non-)reasoning). (as have been stated before.)

[SamOz]

I can see that nothing matters to you except trolling. CC and the all required documents are in the package already. Everything else you have said continues to be a distortion of the facts. I have given proper attribution already as well, and I have never claimed credt for anything in the package which I did not create, despite your BS claming the contrary. You have not shown otherwise, but just pretend, lie, and misrepresent. You also try to pretend that your "opinions" are facts, refusing to stick with reality. You just prefer to troll.

[/dev/humancontroller]

I can see that nothing matters to you except trolling. CC and the all required documents are in the package already. Everything else you have said continues to be a distortion of the facts. I have given proper attribution already as well, and I have never claimed credt for anything in the package which I did not create, despite your BS claming the contrary. You have not shown otherwise, but just pretend, lie, and misrepresent. You also try to pretend that your "opinions" are facts, refusing to stick with reality. You just prefer to troll.

WRONG. you can't show otherwise. 'nuff said.

[SamOz]

I can see that nothing matters to you except trolling. CC and the all required documents are in the package already. Everything else you have said continues to be a distortion of the facts. I have given proper attribution already as well, and I have never claimed credt for anything in the package which I did not create, despite your BS claming the contrary. You have not shown otherwise, but just pretend, lie, and misrepresent. You also try to pretend that your "opinions" are facts, refusing to stick with reality. You just prefer to troll.

WRONG. you can't show otherwise. 'nuff said.

As I said before;
When you say 'wrong' without any detailed reasoning as to 'why', it just shows that YOU HAVE NO LOGICAL REASON and KNOW that you can't make one that would withstand any more scrutiny than your previous lunacy. You're a joke. LOL

[SamOz]

Putting some mod, or any file at all, for that matter, up online is NOT, and NEVER has been equal to legally claiming that you made the whole thing.

irrelevant. putting something presented as "<insert_your_name_here>'s <insert_your_thing_here>", coupled with statements such as "most of the work inside is mine" does equate to claiming ownership of each part by default.

You're an idiot and a liar.

WRONG.

you have to misrepresent credit by stating at the start that you made it all

or at least that you made most (when in fact you haven't).

According to your insanity

WRONG.

if someone posts up a collection of photos by their mother, stating that it's a collection of photos by their mother, you're going to claim that the poster is claiming credit for taking every one of the photos even though the poster already stated that those photos were taken by their mother.

WRONG.

You really are incredibly braindead.

WRONG.

The law doesn't see it that way either.

yes; thus, you're WRONG.

Neither do most sane people.

yes; thus, you're WRONG.

Dev-HC can mislead and misquote and lie to the end of the world

yes, the almighty /dev/humancontroller has such a unique ability. you have yet to see it in action.

it does not change the fact that I have NEVER claimed credit for making every damn thing in the mod.

it does not change the fact that you have claimed credit for making most of the things in the mod.

You two twits are both lying

WRONG.

you've lost track of what reality is.

WRONG.

There is nothing that I've created in the mod that's in breach of copyright laws

yeah, it's the things that you didn't create (but included in the package and presented as your own) that is in breach of copyright laws. even laws are mostly irrelevant, because anti-fuckface conventions are more significant.

It's plainly a fan work

read: a remix of attribution-stripped content from the net.

with plentiful attributions

WRONG.

no disregard of previous credit

WRONG.

You two lying a*holes have been shovelling BS since the beginning of the thread

WRONG.

with clearly no honest intentions

WRONG.

your motivation for personal abuse was exposed already.

abuse of fuckfaces, that is.

A sound from another quake mod, which I have NEVER claimed to have made

WRONG.

has metadata

WRONG.

you stupid lying pair of losers

WRONG.

sounds which have the name "OnlyTheGhosts" were made by me.

what about sounds that don't have any metadata, ie., most files, such as those that are in the "most human sounds and most alien sounds" group? face it: these fall into the default interpretation: you've claimed ownership, and now you're trying to make it appear otherwise.

I never claimed credit for them.

WRONG.

Dev-HC is misrepresenting reality and spouting crap through the keyboard yet again.

WRONG.

he outright lies all the damn time

WRONG.

You're getting to be more than just ridiculous

WRONG.

now you want to play silly childish games of 'Let's Pretend' that SamOz claimed credit for a sound which SamOz never actually claim credit for.

WRONG.

I made only the sounds which have the name OnlyTheGhosts in the metadata, I stated this in the first post

and also that you've made most aliens sounds and most human sounds.

but you have to lie and pretend that I was claiming credit for everything in the mod anyway.

WRONG.

you're a brainless little liar

WRONG.

Your bullshit is getting quite bizarre.

WRONG.

did i mention that samoz is WRONG?

As I said before;
When you say 'wrong' without any detailed reasoning as to 'why', it just shows that YOU HAVE NO LOGICAL REASON and KNOW that you can't make one that would withstand any more scrutiny than your previous lunacy. You're a joke. LOL

[your face]

wth

[Aelita]

itc a 2+ year flamewar

also fuck devhc

[SamOz]

Insane lying idiotic assholes such as DevHC are what killed off most of Tremulous. He's like a Wikipedia editor and a bad lawyer; he lies even about what's written in what he links to and what he cites - then compounds that dishonesty with self-serving twisted reinterpretations of what laws actually say. Slime like him are unfortunately common in the legal profession, and among the Tremulous community's "old guard". People who lack an ethical core, lack comprehension of karma and human relationships, lack an understanding of true logic, yet are placed on pedestals by moronic dolts who fall for their "attitude" of all-knowing about all bullshit which they really know very little except how to masquerade.

[ULTRA Random ViruS]

Insane lying idiotic assholes such as DevHC are what killed off most of Tremulous. He's like a Wikipedia editor and a bad lawyer; he lies even about what's written in what he links to and what he cites - then compounds that dishonesty with self-serving twisted reinterpretations of what laws actually say. Slime like him are unfortunately common in the legal profession, and among the Tremulous community's "old guard". People who lack an ethical core, lack comprehension of karma and human relationships, lack an understanding of true logic, yet are placed on pedestals by moronic dolts who fall for their "attitude" of all-knowing about all bullshit which they really know very little except how to masquerade.

lul