SamOz's MImod (Mirai Ikusa Visual & Sound version)

[SamOz]

Dev-HC and Rak, you should BOTH learn to read what I've typed and stick to the actual meanings of the words, not your own-self-serving re-definitions and wacky "implications" made-up out of loony re-interpretations of the English language.

None of the options you gave are correct either. You're using a very typical troll tactic; suggest a limited number of insulting options none of which are actually applicable and probably totally untrue, and refuse to accept what's been stated already. Simply C&P repeating the same lying crapola that you both have posted already doesn't make your crapola any more true. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, your personal views as to whether some element of the mod looks good or not, really don't matter a damn to anyone except yourselves. You began with your first Troll posts to this thread with rants of personal abuse, so your credibility on the subject of what's nice and what's nasty are irrelevant. Besides, I made the mod first of all for my son, not for you two weirdos.

As for calling your tirades of silly childish insults "constructive criticism", that's laughable! You definitely haven't got a CLUE what the term means, nor the requirements that go with it.

I'm not the one who's trying to claim that someone else is 'claiming credit' for every asset in the mod, you two nutty trolls are. Since the truth is that I'm not claiming exclusive credit for anything at all, and that I've given attributions, kept the legal copyrights as they should be, and only added CC-by for my own contributions - without detracting from anyone else's one iota - you're both only recyling and repeating the same outright blatant bare-faced lies when you make any claim to the contrary. Dushan once referred to you as a pair of retards, at this present time after seeing what you've posted throughout this thread, I'm inclined to agree with him.

No, Dev-HC, most people who've been paying attention for years - obviously not you, since you live in a dirty little place and rarely know what fresh air is - already know that my son is not Volt. My son is known in the Tremulous games on the servers that he plays on as "Samurai Cat". He recently turned 16. If you've played on F, W, X, or in any of the previous operating KoRx mod servers, you would likely have encountered him on occasion.

[CreatureofHell]

Dushan once referred to you as a pair of retards, at this present time after seeing what you've posted throughout this thread, I'm inclined to agree with him.

Dushan was, as his name suggests, a douche.

Probably still is come to think of it.

[SamOz]

Dushan once referred to you as a pair of retards, at this present time after seeing what you've posted throughout this thread, I'm inclined to agree with him.

Dushan was, as his name suggests, a douche.

Probably still is come to think of it.

Dushan is a brilliant coder who deserves praise for the work he did on OpenWolf, from which the Daemon Engine used by Unvanquished is a fork. Take whatever you've been told otherwise with a shipload of salt until you've researched the events in the raw reality of what happened, not through the filter of others' opinions from the opposing side of any argument.

[/dev/humancontroller]

stick to the actual meanings of the words

the full meaning of an act does not come from the sum of the meanings of words posted in connection with the act, you fucktard.

None of the options you gave are correct either.

fucktard! i asked you to explain yourself thoroughly. you refused to answer. i gave you several options, and asked you to choose the one that most fits your case (in case you were tired "typing", though it's obvious that you had plenty of free time and energy, which you used on ignoring me). you continued to ignore me. now, you're saying that the options are bad.

You're using a very typical troll tactic

WRONG. you're faggingly ignoring almost all questions/"injunctions" that significantly expose the bitter facts about you, and you're continuing to repeat that we're lying, without giving any proof whatsoever, except that you say that "a proof can be assembled somehow, somewhere from this thread". you're even picking a set of words in latter posts that i've used shortly before you (eg., "unfounded"), and you're retorting with arguments that should be used against you (eg., "you're unable to bring up a quote"). what a fuckface. also, you're WRONGly thinking that facts i present become non-facts or lies as a result of me stating a specific fact about you, in various forms: you're a cocktwiddling dickface.

refuse to accept what's been stated already

i have no idea whever you want to accept the fact that we've pointed out your acts of anti-humanity, but you don't have a choice.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

delusion is in the mind of samoz.

your credibility on the subject of what's nice and what's nasty are irrelevant

we may be credible or incredible, but facts stand with or without us in the picture. we're just positioning them here so that, among other things, they can embarrass you.

"constructive criticism", that's laughable!

ind33d. we're here not to convert the currently-assfaced samoz, we're here to destroy him it.¹

I'm not the one who's trying to claim that someone else is 'claiming credit' for every asset in the mod

you're not trying, you did.

the truth is that I'm not claiming exclusive credit for anything at all

WRONG.

I've given attributions, kept the legal copyrights as they should be

WRONG.

and only added CC-by for my own contributions

so you now confess that you have brought it to mind that you've neglected to add the CC-BY-SA licensing for others' contributions?

lies

you, your mom and your son.

Dev-HC, most people who've been paying attention for years - obviously not you

you don't deserve any attention, except if it's for conducting defence against you.

he plays on as "Samurai Cat".

would that happen to be an alias of the fagbag called hermxiv?

He recently turned 16.

who gives a shit? plzdiekthxbye.

Dushan is a brilliant coder

WRONG. he got kicked out of the TremZ/Unvanquished development team due to his crappy, buggy and unreadable code, and his inability to learn.

¹ "it" suggests that samoz is not worthy of being called a human

[SamOz]

Dev-HC, it is doubtful that you have an honest bone in your entire body. I have not removed the copyright documentation or attributions of anyone whose work is also included in the mod. Your attempts at changing and redefining what others say for your own convenience for the purpose of further personal harassment instead destroy your credibility. You loudly proclaim *fact* as if it were some rubbery jelly that you can remake on a whim.

All code for multi-mb software has bugs initially. Dushan was not kicked out of TremZ/Unvanquished, he left the TremZ Project originally on his own initiative due to the unwarranted trolling from the likes of idiots such as you. He then returned after a few people asked him to return and apologised for the bad behaviour of trolling morons   (unfortunately a plague in the Tremulous community far more common than those of most other game communities that I have dealt with). You remind me of those media liars for the USA government who love to promote twisted lies about recent history, perhaps you copy your bullshit style from them?

[kharnov]

You remind me of Baghdad Bob.

[/dev/humancontroller]

I have not removed the copyright documentation or attributions of anyone whose work is also included in the mod.

WRONG. and you should have added more.

All code for multi-mb software has bugs initially.

of course. sometimes there are just a few bugs in 100s of changes; but sometimes every 2nd change introduces bugs, dushbugs so to say.

Dushan was not kicked out of TremZ/Unvanquished, he left the TremZ Project originally on his own initiative due to the unwarranted trolling from the likes of idiots such as you.

WRONG. don't tell me you really believe whatever he tells you.

He then returned after a few people asked him to return and apologised for the bad behaviour of trolling morons

WRONG, AFAIG -- he was out of the development team (called "Unvanquished Development" or something at the time) when i left, and he probably still is. during all that time, he was part of the famous volt–dushbag–hermxiv–samoz copyrip squad.

You remind me of those media liars for the USA government who love to promote twisted lies about recent history, perhaps you copy your bullshit style from them?

the above is typical samoz bullshit.


note to others: oh look, samoz silently updated the package.
for reference, SHA1 (zzz-mimod322-ngp.pk3) = 59214e58c21aae8e2530195ee92db9e0dee2eb49.

[/dev/humancontroller]

oh look, in the newest version of the package, a shitload of sounds and textures got removed (relative to the previous package), and some copyright information was added. this is a partial victory. and now, let's look at some of the sounds that have existed and still exist in the package. you claim full copyright for these. tell me, what was the process under which you "created" these sounds (note to others: uploaded for review; WARNING: beware of the copyright pitfalls of these files; do not post your findings yet, but wait a while):

• sound/player/human_base/falling1.wav
• sound/player/human_base/gib.wav
• models/weapons/level1/impactflesh0.wav

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Dev-HC and Rak, you should BOTH learn to read what I've typed and stick to the actual meanings of the words, not your own-self-serving re-definitions and wacky "implications" made-up out of loony re-interpretations of the English language.

show me where i've changed definitions.

None of the options you gave are correct either. You're using a very typical troll tactic; suggest a limited number of insulting options none of which are actually applicable and probably totally untrue, and refuse to accept what's been stated already. Simply C&P repeating the same lying crapola that you both have posted already doesn't make your crapola any more true. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, your personal views as to whether some element of the mod looks good or not, really don't matter a damn to anyone except yourselves. You began with your first Troll posts to this thread with rants of personal abuse, so your credibility on the subject of what's nice and what's nasty are irrelevant. Besides, I made the mod first of all for my son, not for you two weirdos.

refute it with proof if there are untruths.  my first posts were not personal abuse.  in fact, none of my posts are personal abuse, in this thread.  lastly, when you post something publicly, especially on a board that specifically allows criticism, you invite comment.  basically, if you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

As for calling your tirades of silly childish insults "constructive criticism", that's laughable! You definitely haven't got a CLUE what the term means, nor the requirements that go with it.

only one of my posts was not copyright related, and was constructive criticism (it's constructive because i did not just say something was not up to standard, but also provided opinions on how to improve).

I'm not the one who's trying to claim that someone else is 'claiming credit' for every asset in the mod, you two nutty trolls are. Since the truth is that I'm not claiming exclusive credit for anything at all, and that I've given attributions, kept the legal copyrights as they should be, and only added CC-by for my own contributions - without detracting from anyone else's one iota - you're both only recyling and repeating the same outright blatant bare-faced lies when you make any claim to the contrary. Dushan once referred to you as a pair of retards, at this present time after seeing what you've posted throughout this thread, I'm inclined to agree with him.

are you trying to portray yourself as an illiterate idiot?  almost every fucking post i've told you how you did indeed claim undue credit, and have even quoted you taking undue credit.  you have not addressed my points other than sobbing that i am lying, without bothering to actually provide anything to refute my claims.

also, amazing how dushan claimed something about me when i have never really had any direct contact with him at all.  you, however, have.  you are more qualified to make some sort of opinion about me than he, and you know better.  you're just lumping me in together with dev/hc as you have been this entire thread.  i suspect this is because i am agreeing with him rather than you.  i am not using the same methods as he is.  you'll notice if you look back, i have not been personally insulting to you.  

edit:  also, if you think we are trolling, please refer to my sig.

edit2 electric boogaloo:  hey, dev/hc, i've figured out why he keeps claiming you said he claimed all assets as his own... _I_ am the one who did that.  several times.  i think he sincerely believes we are the same person. 

i'd also like to take the time this edit to correct a mistake of mine in the post above - i claimed only one of my posts in this thread was not copyright related.  i was wrong, i had completely forgotten i jumped into this mess because his misuse of the term "ad hominem" really irritated me.  i'll leave the statement as it is, so no one thinks im trying to cover up my mistake or anything.

[SamOz]

I believe the full unedited IRC chat logs and cache files, not the crap that you idiots like to say make yourselves look 'clean' of all guilt and malice. I also did a lot of my investigation, independently.

Anyone reading the thread can see you trying desperately to redefine meanings, draw 'implications' of your arse and whatever nonsense goes through your skulls. You do it all the time. You're into revisionism even about your past actions, denying what's right there in front of everyone. Your posts have been personal abuse of one kind or another throughout. Dev-HC began with a tirade of abuse, and you later supported the bullshit accusations and lies that Dev-HC was spouting in that first post. You're both TROLLS.

Are you illiterate, Rak-whateveryournameis? The attributions are there. I mention the inspirations as well. Whose ideas helped. In the metadata of the sounds, there is often detailed explanation of how a sound was created and from where the samples came from. More attributions than I've seen in any other mod posted on this site.

You want people to jump through hoops for no good reason, and you lie all the time about the reasons that you do give.

[/dev/humancontroller]

I believe the full unedited IRC chat logs and cache files, not the crap that you idiots like to say make yourselves look 'clean' of all guilt and malice. I also did a lot of my investigation, independently.

Anyone reading the thread can see you trying desperately to redefine meanings, draw 'implications' of your arse and whatever nonsense goes through your skulls. You do it all the time. You're into revisionism even about your past actions, denying what's right there in front of everyone. Your posts have been personal abuse of one kind or another throughout. Dev-HC began with a tirade of abuse, and you later supported the bullshit accusations and lies that Dev-HC was spouting in that first post. You're both TROLLS.

Are you illiterate, Rak-whateveryournameis? The attributions are there. I mention the inspirations as well. Whose ideas helped. In the metadata of the sounds, there is often detailed explanation of how a sound was created and from where the samples came from. More attributions than I've seen in any other mod posted on this site.

You want people to jump through hoops for no good reason, and you lie all the time about the reasons that you do give.

WRONG. 'nuff said.

you continue to ignore the key request, which is to tell, here, truthfully (you've only lied up to this point) ("truthfully" implies: regarding the version of the package at the time of the original request), everything you know about

• sound/player/human_base/falling1.wav
• sound/player/human_base/gib.wav
• models/weapons/level1/impactflesh0.wav

[SamOz]

If the sound file doesn't have my name on it in the metadata, then it's not something that I was involved in making. That's bloody obvious isn't it? It has to have OnlyTheGhosts in the metadata, as already stated in the first post of this thread. I haven't lied about a damn thing, but you two morons have been making shit up about what I've previously stated, tried to play word games and twist things around to claim that I saying something OTHER than what I actually said, and tried to pull imaginary "implications" out of nothing.

Are you now trying to pretend that I claimed credit for making stuff that doesn't have my name on it in the metadata, nor is stated as being solely made by me anywhere in the documentation? You're an idiot.

I don't really have the time to debate with you two lying twits, and that's exactly what you are.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

I believe the full unedited IRC chat logs and cache files, not the crap that you idiots like to say make yourselves look 'clean' of all guilt and malice. I also did a lot of my investigation, independently.

Anyone reading the thread can see you trying desperately to redefine meanings, draw 'implications' of your arse and whatever nonsense goes through your skulls. You do it all the time. You're into revisionism even about your past actions, denying what's right there in front of everyone. Your posts have been personal abuse of one kind or another throughout. Dev-HC began with a tirade of abuse, and you later supported the bullshit accusations and lies that Dev-HC was spouting in that first post. You're both TROLLS.

Are you illiterate, Rak-whateveryournameis? The attributions are there. I mention the inspirations as well. Whose ideas helped. In the metadata of the sounds, there is often detailed explanation of how a sound was created and from where the samples came from. More attributions than I've seen in any other mod posted on this site.

You want people to jump through hoops for no good reason, and you lie all the time about the reasons that you do give.

"unedited IRC logs"?  i dont even use irc you clod.  furthermore, when i edit my posts, a disclaimer is automatically added to the post notifying the world that it has been edited.  i personally also leave a little note in the post explaining the edit.  you cannot show me where i have shifted definitions or deliberately told an untruth...  because i have not.  the one case where i have caught myself making a statement that is not correct, i left a note explaining my error...  it was last post.  i have not been discussing implications, i have been discussing what you have done and said.  i have shown you where you have lied.  you will not quote me because you can not find a post of mine that supports your accusations.  if you think we are trolls, again i refer you to my signature here.

you NOW have a modicum of attribution.  again, METADATA IS NOT PROPER ATTRIBUTION.  furthermore, STOCK TREMULOUS SOUNDS ARE COPYRIGHT HELL, YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY GIVE PROPER ATTRIBUTION.

finally, ACCORDING TO BOTH JAPANESE AND INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT LAW, PUBLISHING SOMETHING GIVES YOU DEFACTO COPYRIGHT.  BY RELEASING WITHOUT PROPER ATTRIBUTION, YOU BECOME A COPYRIP THIEF, JUST LIKE DEV/HC ACCUSED YOU TO BE.

i hope you actually read the boldened and/or underlined text above.  you've been ignoring these key points all thread.

edit: fixed mangled bbcode.  for some reason, when i bolden and underline, i am not required to close both tags out, only one.

edit2, the revenge:  if we are so wrong about this whole deal, why did you remove assets, and then add attribution for others?  the answer: we are right, and you know it.

[/dev/humancontroller]

METADATA IS NOT PROPER ATTRIBUTION

shh, don't tell anyone, but there's hardly any metadata in his package, even, and neither of the existing ones contain attribution statements and licensing information.

[kharnov]

"unedited IRC logs"?

He likes to pretend that TremZ died because of some conspiracy against them and that they were innocent all along and that they were completely misunderstood and that all the charges against them were faked. This is about as far from the truth as you can possibly imagine, but this is SamOz you're dealing with here. Look at this entire thread for an example of 'debating' the guy.

[/dev/humancontroller]

red alert ! the package got silently updated again ! another shitload of textures got deleted.

for reference, SHA1(zzz-mimod323-ngp.pk3) = 2a7df2dde14c95993e2fbfde93612ad4ff40262b.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Look at this entire thread for an example of 'debating' the guy.

you know it's bad when you say this to me, and not about me.

[SamOz]

"unedited IRC logs"?

He likes to pretend that TremZ died because of some conspiracy against them and that they were innocent all along and that they were completely misunderstood and that all the charges against them were faked. This is about as far from the truth as you can possibly imagine, but this is SamOz you're dealing with here. Look at this entire thread for an example of 'debating' the guy.

It's fascinating to see how huge that chip is on your shoulder, you resort to lying about what I've often said as well. That shouldn't surprise anyone that you would do so.

TremZ died because of a dispute between Dushan and Herm. Herm closed the website and repos, that was the end of it. I've said this for months. Pay attention to the reality of what people actually say, not whatever crap you've got in that wild imagination of yours.

The package for the mod was updated to try and get the size down a bit. Big deal, so what? Did I say ANYWHERE that all improvement must stop? LOL

A bunch of nutty trolls spouting shit about me doesn't make any of your shit true. It remains crappy smelly stuff that stinks of lies and twisted word games. BOLDing it in BIG CAPITALS doesn't make your bullshit any less than being bullshit either; apparently now you have a problem because I never claimed credit for those 3 sound tracks (not in the metadata, not in the CCs, bloody well NOWHERE that you can point out) but you still want to pretend that I'm in breach of copyright despite NOT CLAIMING any credit for those particular sounds?! You nutters are INSANE! LMAO. You really just try to make up shit. All I see is a pair of lying idiots who want to make a hurricane out of thin air, not even bothering with needing a teacup in the first place to make trouble about. I won't bother repeating myself, you twits are soooooo very typical of the bad side of the Tremulous community, always trying to make up excuses for trolling, desperately lying outright waaaaaay too often. Apparently, when someone else makes a mod, there's no worries at all, when I make one that has all the legal documentation and attributions necessary - and you haven't shown anything credible yet to show otherwise - that's a big problem for you. You have to lie about what the fantastically illusory (only in your own heads) "implications" are, or bullshit with wordgame manipulations to pretend that when I say one thing, that I supposely "really" mean something else. What a load of BS.  

Regardless, thanks for keeping the thread right up the top.

Tremulous has a sucky horrid community filled with far too many trolls, that's the true reason the game has been dying.

[kharnov]

Please tell me more about how you upgraded your engine to "C+" and C++.

[SamOz]

WHOSE engine?

I'm not Dushan or DerSaidin. They worked most on OpenWolf until the middle of last year, ask them.

So, is all this codswallop from you lying SOBs is just because you STILL want to troll people who were part of TremZ? No surprises there.

Congratulations; the trolls just like you idiots ensured that the tremulous community were left with two choices, an outdated and buggy game with a dying community, or a newer but still horribly buggy game with a tiny community and even less activity even than GPP these days. Great job, trolls, you continually manage to kill the game's fun for the majority. You're not interested in any new mods, any new ideas, any new ways. You've proven that despite all denials, you're only interested in excuses to troll.

Anyone else who is interested in researching what really happened in that dispute, should search for the cache files and UNEDITED chats from IRC (selectively edited versions being always one-sided and very doubtful).

This mod has ZERO to do with that ancient history. You only reveal your true lack of any kind of credibility.

[kharnov]

You only reveal your hilarious capacity to respond to everything I say with ten times the words.

[SamOz]

I've seen more meaningful & relevant comments with less words on twitter posts, try harder K. Perhaps you can refute the points at least - or like Dev-HC and Rak-whatever like to do, just pretend to have made a point while disregarding the facts entirely.

[kharnov]

Thank you for bumping my thread, please keep it up.

[SamOz]

Mine, actually. My name is on the top. Truth apparently is irrelevant to you on the most minor of points as well.

[kharnov]

No, this is my thread now. Good luck.

[/dev/humancontroller]

...

you resort to lying about what I've often said as well. That shouldn't surprise anyone that you would do so.

i finally understand samoz's retarded language: anyone pointing out where samoz is WRONG is immediately, by definition, obviously lying.

TremZ died because of a dispute between Dushan and Herm. Herm closed the website and repos, that was the end of it.

that's the only thing your narrow vision could see. whether there was any particular dispute is irrelevant. the most significant component of the reason for why TremZ died is because we made sure that the the volt--samoz--hermxiv--dushbag squad wouldn't get their deceptions (eg., claiming that they have a shitload of development teams (or "Development Teams", rather), with plenty of members in each) and lies (eg., claiming that they have genuine, ripoff-free assets) across.

the majority of what's in this mod is the result of my hard work, not others. That's nearly every Alien sound, Human sound,

I never claimed credit for those 3 sound tracks

oh look, what a totally random coincidence,¹ i have managed to select a few sounds that do not fall into the "nearly every" category.

The metadata contains the name and source of the sounds.

orly. what does the metadata of the said 3 sounds say?

Tremulous has a sucky horrid community filled with far too many trolls, that's the true reason the game has been dying.

and the need for TROLL(TM)s is an opensource-copyright infringer every now and then, eg., volt, you, hermxiv, etc..

¹ NOT


fact: you're deluded.
fact: you're trying to make it seem like you've proven something.
fact: you're disregarding facts.
fact: you're lying.
fact: you're WRONG.
proof: this thread -- QED.

[/dev/humancontroller]

with time, the amount of content that is still "potentially samoz's work" will converge (from "nearly every") to 0.

now, other viewers are advised to listen to sample sounds from the package, and to see if they can recognize the true source of the sounds.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

\ apparently now you have a problem because I never claimed credit for those 3 sound tracks (not in the metadata, not in the CCs, bloody well NOWHERE that you can point out) but you still want to pretend that I'm in breach of copyright despite NOT CLAIMING any credit for those particular sounds?!

samoz, for the upteenth time, i am not dev/hc. 

samoz, for the upteenth time, publication "counts" as "claiming credit".

samoz, i am RAK, and YOU show ME where ive said something other than "those sounds are in rights hell and no one should use them, they cannot possibly be properly attributed"

WHOSE engine?

I'm not Dushan or DerSaidin. They worked most on OpenWolf until the middle of last year, ask them.

So, is all this codswallop from you lying SOBs is just because you STILL want to troll people who were part of TremZ? No surprises there.

Congratulations; the trolls just like you idiots ensured that the tremulous community were left with two choices, an outdated and buggy game with a dying community, or a newer but still horribly buggy game with a tiny community and even less activity even than GPP these days. Great job, trolls, you continually manage to kill the game's fun for the majority. You're not interested in any new mods, any new ideas, any new ways. You've proven that despite all denials, you're only interested in excuses to troll.

Anyone else who is interested in researching what really happened in that dispute, should search for the cache files and UNEDITED chats from IRC (selectively edited versions being always one-sided and very doubtful).

This mod has ZERO to do with that ancient history. You only reveal your true lack of any kind of credibility.

samoz, you are defending volt.  this is the guy for whom proper attribution was too hard, so he changed the name of the project.  think about that for a minute.

point of fact, i am interested in new mods and ideas.  i am interested enough to harangue someone about copyright if they are not up to snuff.  ive even been nice enough to not call you on this mod being a "half cheat".  making all players pop against the background with garish colors is in spirit the same as adding footstep sounds to the basi.

[Volt]

summoning jutsu has worked, a wild volt appears. 

[Volt]

Devhc <3 DON'T JEALOUS ME!!

Thank you for bumping my thread, please keep it up.

I believe this is now my thread.


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